Hein-Werner Jack Identification

[VintageTool]

Hey guys … I’ve been lurking the site for a while, researching old floor jacks while I searched high and low for one to buy. My old Craftsman finally bit the dust, and I’d rather rebuild a good old American piece. Plus, I need a longer reach jack for my variety of vehicles.

I finally found (and bought) what looks like an older Hein-Werner 4-ton. But, there’s no nameplate anywhere, and no holes on the front of the handle fork where I thought one would have been riveted. The only identifying marks are “000-0514” and “W2” stamped into the rear of the handle fork. It certainly looks like a GH or GH-1, complete with orange paint, from what photos I can find online.

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Can anyone confirm that this actually is a Hein-Werner? Or, do I have something that was reverse engineered in China?

If so, what model? What’s the difference between the GH and GH-1? Any ideas on a vintage?

Finally, if it is a H-W, why would there be no holes for a nameplate? Did they start using adhesive backed metal or stickers for the nameplate at some point?

Thanks for any insight you might have.

 

[VintageTool]

Bueller? Bueller? Bueller?

 

[SEV22XS]

It's a hein werner for sure not sure on the model but I'm sure hiball will jump in or google is friend.

 

[D.J.]

Hiiball will probally chime in in a few post he is the resident expert. Sorry I type slow!

 

[VintageTool]

No worries. I just didn't want to fall off of page 1. That's a blow to one's ego! Everything I can find online certainly looks like a H-W, but I was beginning to wonder.

Thanks for the replies.

 

[Hiball]

Looks like a GH-1 to me, missing the cover plate and if memory serves, the tags where generally at the base of the handle assembly.

 

[limegreen240sx]

Hi there are 4 of this at the garage i work at but there blue and have walker stamped into the base there quite old with a thick layer of dust. I was wandering what there ton ratings are etc. No i haven't googled them yet was just curious if someone in here could maybe tell me alittle about them?

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[Hiball]

Hi there are 4 of this at the garage i work at but there blue and have walker stamped into the base there quite old with a thick layer of dust. I was wandering what there ton ratings are etc. No i haven't googled them yet was just curious if someone in here could maybe tell me alittle about them?

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The OP's Jack is a Hein Werner, obviously yours are Walker branded, without having some more info it's impossible to determine if they are 2,4 or 10 or even 20 ton, as Walker/Lincoln covered all those in long frame variation. The confusion comes into play if you look at the "current" Hein Werner lineup as they purchased the Walker/Lincoln design and now strictly sell there design under there name and discontinued the HW design (OP's).

 

[limegreen240sx]

The OP's Jack is a Hein Werner, obviously yours are Walker branded, without having some more info it's impossible to determine if they are 2,4 or 10 or even 20 ton, as Walker/Lincoln covered all those in long frame variation. The confusion comes into play if you look at the "current" Hein Werner lineup as they purchased the Walker/Lincoln design and now strictly sell there design under there name and discontinued the HW design (OP's).

Ah okay I'm the new lead tech of a shop on its 4th generation. I'm not related to the family amazing people though. They have 4 of them i just asked about them and he said give me 50bucks for them but one leaks. He also has a american tool corp lathe. thanks to everyone on here identifing it. they where a Alfa and Peugeot dealership. ive bought quite alot of there old manuals for the cars a box full of there badges and steering wheels old wooden ones thats what i collect. but they caught my eye im not worried about value just a quality vintage piece of equipment. I appreciate the info you gave even though mine was limited where do and what do i look for to better figure out what they are. also 20ton like a semi jack?

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[Hiball]

Ah okay I'm the new lead tech of a shop on its 4th generation. I'm not related to the family amazing people though. They have 4 of them i just asked about them and he said give me 50bucks for them but one leaks. He also has a american tool corp lathe. thanks to everyone on here identifing it. they where a Alfa and Peugeot dealership. ive bought quite alot of there old manuals for the cars a box full of there badges and steering wheels old wooden ones thats what i collect. but they caught my eye im not worried about value just a quality vintage piece of equipment. I appreciate the info you gave even though mine was limited where do and what do i look for to better figure out what they are. also 20ton like a semi jack?

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Pictures will go along way in this discussion, but look for tags indicating model numbers. The older ones had tags at the base of the handle, Newer ones shared smaller tags and foil stickers on the side of the frame. The 20 ton (Weaver) was actually a floor Jack, not the wheeled air jacks that you see today. The common long frame models that where used in shops, Oldest to Newer.

2 ton.

782
882
J132
93655

4 ton

784
884
J134
93657

All of those models where covered under Walker thru the years, there are some other models that where air/over, but the above models where most common.

 

[limegreen240sx]

Pictures will go along way in this discussion, but look for tags indicating model numbers. The older ones had tags at the base of the handle, Newer ones shared smaller tags and foil stickers on the side of the frame. The 20 ton (Weaver) was actually a floor Jack, not the wheeled air jacks that you see today. The common long frame models that where used in shops, Oldest to Newer.

2 ton.

782
882
J132
93655

4 ton

784
884
J134
93657

All of those models where covered under Walker thru the years, there are some other models that where air/over, but the above models where most common.

Okay i will get some tomorrow i would love buy them! but if they do have value i want to give them a fair price and not steal them i guess ill update tomorrow with pics and sorry about hijacking OP's post!!!

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[Hiball]

Okay i will get some tomorrow i would love buy them! but if they do have value i want to give them a fair price and not steal them i guess ill update tomorrow with pics and sorry about hijacking OP's post!!!

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In General Most Hard parts are Available, Soft parts are definitely NO problem, Caster Issues can be Pricey in OEM Replacement form. The biggest issue is Internal condition, along with surface condition of the Pump Pistons/Ram as Generally there is a reason jacks get discarded to the corner, And when Metal sits... You can get some serious Rust/Pitting going on. If you factor all that in and go into the situation knowing that some of the 7XX/8XX series jacks are well over 60 Years old... Tread Lightly, But dont be Scared as they are a fantastic design and even cylinder/surface issues can be addressed if you have the means or $$$.

 

[limegreen240sx]

In General Most Hard parts are Available, Soft parts are definitely NO problem, Caster Issues can be Pricey in OEM Replacement form. The biggest issue is Internal condition, along with surface condition of the Pump Pistons/Ram as Generally there is a reason jacks get discarded to the corner, And when Metal sits... You can get some serious Rust/Pitting going on. If you factor all that in and go into the situation knowing that some of the 7XX/8XX series jacks are well over 60 Years old... Tread Lightly, But dont be Scared as they are a fantastic design and even cylinder/surface issues can be addressed if you have the means or $$$.

just bought them from my boss!

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[123Go]

Is there a rainbow leading over to that corner, thats gold!!!............Let me guess, they use china jacks now and just toss them aside every yr or so instead of rebuilding these amazing old Walkers that will last decade after decade right?

 

[paineman]

Sorry I know this thread is a little old but I had to post as I am trying to decide if I want to have my old jack repaired or just spend $1200 on a new milwaukee jack.

My jack looks exactly like the OP's jack, all I can find are some numbers on the pump/cylinder and the number starts with "GH" and also "HW 4 TON" stamped into the top.

I called one of the only shops that I can find in my area that works on jacks, Detroit Jack and tool is the name of his shop. He is actually still in Detroit and he also works on AC recovery machines, my employer uses him for the service on our AC machines.
I called him and left a voice mail and he called me back later that night and we talked for a while about the new junk jacks and the nice Milwaukee jacks. Long story short he told me worst case in the ram or pump cylinders will need to be machined and repaired and the repair on the high end would be around $500. He is a small shop that I don't mind supporting as they are few and far between these days! He doesn't even have a website!

My jack still functions but it has a decent leak from the small pump cylinder and I am sure it will only get worse from here.. there is some slight pitting on the pump ram's. I want to blame the leak on myself as I don't think it was leaking much when I bought it for around $100 on craigslist, I did some sand blasting with the jack nearby and I did not think of the crud that would get on the rams!!! Stupid mistake and I want to make her sealed again.

I guess my question is what would you do, the way I see it is I have 3 options.

1- New Milwaukee 4 ton (+/- $1200 shipped and a few month wait)
2- Pro rebuild (around $500 on the high end)
3- buy a seal kit and repair myself (<$100)

I have have plenty of tools, a good old Wilton built vise to help and would rather revive the old beast as it has a nice high lift and they just don't make them like the used too. I work on my own stuff when ever possible but have not messed around with much hydraulic stuff yet! I am 30 years old so I guess now is as good of time as any to start.

Thanks for any incite!!

 

[anndel]

Looks like a Walker Floor Jack

 

[123Go]

Sorry I know this thread is a little old but I had to post as I am trying to decide if I want to have my old jack repaired or just spend $1200 on a new milwaukee jack.

My jack looks exactly like the OP's jack, all I can find are some numbers on the pump/cylinder and the number starts with "GH" and also "HW 4 TON" stamped into the top.

I called one of the only shops that I can find in my area that works on jacks, Detroit Jack and tool is the name of his shop. He is actually still in Detroit and he also works on AC recovery machines, my employer uses him for the service on our AC machines.
I called him and left a voice mail and he called me back later that night and we talked for a while about the new junk jacks and the nice Milwaukee jacks. Long story short he told me worst case in the ram or pump cylinders will need to be machined and repaired and the repair on the high end would be around $500. He is a small shop that I don't mind supporting as they are few and far between these days! He doesn't even have a website!

My jack still functions but it has a decent leak from the small pump cylinder and I am sure it will only get worse from here.. there is some slight pitting on the pump ram's. I want to blame the leak on myself as I don't think it was leaking much when I bought it for around $100 on craigslist, I did some sand blasting with the jack nearby and I did not think of the crud that would get on the rams!!! Stupid mistake and I want to make her sealed again.

I guess my question is what would you do, the way I see it is I have 3 options.

1- New Milwaukee 4 ton (+/- $1200 shipped and a few month wait)
2- Pro rebuild (around $500 on the high end)
3- buy a seal kit and repair myself (<$100)

I have have plenty of tools, a good old Wilton built vise to help and would rather revive the old beast as it has a nice high lift and they just don't make them like the used too. I work on my own stuff when ever possible but have not messed around with much hydraulic stuff yet! I am 30 years old so I guess now is as good of time as any to start.

Thanks for any incite!!

REBUILD THAT BABY YOURSELF--
It will make you feel very proud of it & yourself for yrs.

First step I'd take is to get hold of Hiball on this site. Try to PM Hiball and ask if he has a break down for it. That would help you out big time.
He can put a kit together and help you out with everything I'm sure.

The way these are made chances are very good that its just seals. If all its hard parts are in good shape on the inside were it really counts, it will last you several more decades for sure.
Regardless what you do, one thing I learned is not to let a hydraulic jack sit around. Seals will harden faster if its not being used & keep them clean.

So fix it and you'll be a proud papa while your jacking around, you know?
Use it or lose it daily, just like your other tool...

 

[Jeff Burnette]

Hey guys … I’ve been lurking the site for a while, researching old floor jacks while I searched high and low for one to buy. My old Craftsman finally bit the dust, and I’d rather rebuild a good old American piece. Plus, I need a longer reach jack for my variety of vehicles.

I finally found (and bought) what looks like an older Hein-Werner 4-ton. But, there’s no nameplate anywhere, and no holes on the front of the handle fork where I thought one would have been riveted. The only identifying marks are “000-0514” and “W2” stamped into the rear of the handle fork. It certainly looks like a GH or GH-1, complete with orange paint, from what photos I can find online.

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Can anyone confirm that this actually is a Hein-Werner? Or, do I have something that was reverse engineered in China?

If so, what model? What’s the difference between the GH and GH-1? Any ideas on a vintage?

Finally, if it is a H-W, why would there be no holes for a nameplate? Did they start using adhesive backed metal or stickers for the nameplate at some point?

Thanks for any insight you might have.

I have a very nice Hein transmission jack for sale anybody interested?

 

[Hiball]

I have a very nice Hein transmission jack for sale anybody interested?

1st off, That is not a Hein Werner transmission jack. Secondly, we have a classified section, but it doesn’t play nice with people joining to simply sell there stuff.