Hein Werner Jack identification

[R6 Racer]

Can any one help me out with this. I am casually looking for a jack for my home garage.
So then this appears on a local site!

The heading reads " Hein-Werner 3 ton Floor Jack, excellent condition "

I'm hoping someone can give me an idea what this might be & what it might be worth. I know that's a lot to ask considering that all I have so far is this admittedly bad pic.
But I have been astonished more than a few times by the knowledge that flows on this board, so .....

The guy is asking for $50.00..... good or bad?

Steve

 

[DavidB]

I'm not a jack expert but a Hein-Werner in good operating condition for $50 sounds like a good deal to me. That's cheaper than a HF jack and will be a much better design. I'd buy it.

 

[Coptool]

Hein Werner is a great brand and it looks like it could definitely be one of the older orange models which could work well for years to come. On the Orange Hein Werner floor jacks however you can no longer get rebuild kits and seals so you are not going to be happy when the seal starts to leak as old jacks will eventually do.

Some years ago Lincoln and Hein Werner were bought/merged/(combined in some way) now some of the current rebuild kits for HW actually work in old Lincolns but there is no good source for old HW rebuild kits. If anyone does know a source for those parts please let me know.

 

[Hiball]

Can any one help me out with this. I am casually looking for a jack for my home garage.
So then this appears on a local site!

The heading reads " Hein-Werner 3 ton Floor Jack, excellent condition "

I'm hoping someone can give me an idea what this might be & what it might be worth. I know that's a lot to ask considering that all I have so far is this admittedly bad pic.
But I have been astonished more than a few times by the knowledge that flows on this board, so .....

The guy is asking for $50.00..... good or bad?

Steve

Its not a 3 ton as HW never made that size (minus the winner series which was a import), And its hard to tell by the pic but it appears to be a WS which is a 1 1/2 Ton. It could be a OS/oboy but I think its bigger, again without some more details its hard to tell. It doesnt look all beat up or rusted up so $50 is a deal.

Hein Werner is a great brand and it looks like it could definitely be one of the older orange models which could work well for years to come. On the Orange Hein Werner floor jacks however you can no longer get rebuild kits and seals so you are not going to be happy when the seal starts to leak as old jacks will eventually do.

Some years ago Lincoln and Hein Werner were bought/merged/(combined in some way) now some of the current rebuild kits for HW actually work in old Lincolns but there is no good source for old HW rebuild kits. If anyone does know a source for those parts please let me know.

Everything you stated accept the fact that Hw purchased the Lincoln Hydraulic line is Incorrect. I have sold many Old Hein Werner kits over the last 20 years, They are readily available as are rebuild kits for Jacks from many different manufacturers. It is a dieing breed and i believe unfortunately the demand will dry up and it wont be profitable enough to keep people in business.

 

[blueflame6]

I am living proof of Hiball and his rebuild kits and with a little help from Elroy.......

 

[Elroy]

Its not a 3 ton as HW never made that size (minus the winner series which was a import)

Looks like we have a "Winner" here.

 

[Hiball]

Looks like we have a "Winner" here.

Dunno.. Its really hard to tell by the pic but to my knowledge the winner series didnt utilize the HW pad that has the Circles inside Circles etc.. I "Think" the OP's Jack has that type of pad and i cant tell if there is Quick release fingers on the handle assembly or not. If there is, thats definitely HW and not the winner series. Its just hard to tell without a better pic, Its not uncommon for the Id tag to be missing and people always underestimate those jacks because they are so beefy.

 

[Elroy]

The thing that point to Winner for Elroy are the handle placement (It's too far back for an OS or WS) and it doesn't look removable. Then there is the saddle yolk. That yolk looks like a steel stamping. It's too sharp edged. The rear caster mounts look too square

In general terms it's just not **** enough to be a USA Werner.

That's an import in Elroy eyes. Better pictures would ensure positive ID

If it works then the $50 is not really a bad deal now is it??

 

[Hiball]

That's an import in Elroy eyes. Better pictures would ensure positive ID

If it works then the $50 is not really a bad deal now is it??

The "Winner" series Jacks where quality units, They used actual Ucups instead of the oring version that market is flooded with now. Its personal preference to whether its worth $50, Its not to me but to the average Joe ...possibly. I was discouraged against the Winner, Marquette (lincoln) because they preyed on the weak and uneducated and whored there name out.

 

[Hiball]

Im gonna go out on a limb and call it a HeinWerner "K" Series. I believe its has the Hw style pad (I think i see swirls) and that Jack sits way back, too far for WS/OS and also the imports.

"K" series Final answer for me.

 

[R6 Racer]

Got another pic! I am trying to get a hold of this guy so I can go take a look at it up close.
What specifically should I be looking at to determine its value or if it is worth buying?

Steve

 

[R6 Racer]

Thanks for all the info so far guys!

Much appreciated
Steve

 

[Elroy]

Im gonna go out on a limb and call it a HeinWerner "K"

Elroy just might need to **************** and sit down

Looking back it very well could be a "K" but it's NOT a os or ws. Damn hard to tell for sure

 

[Hiball]

Elroy just might need to **************** and sit down

Looking back it very well could be a "K" but it's NOT a os or ws. Damn hard to tell for sure

Nah.. This jack business is Tricky. Its hard to determine the jack brand by small pics, Hell i looked right past the handle position and thought it was a WS on First Look. The Funny thing is ive only seen a handfull of "K" series jacks in 20 years and there has been 2 show up here within the last 2 weeks. I feel confident in calling the OP's jack a "K" series, I double checked all my HW manuals. Id definitely buy it for $50 bucks, It looks clean.

 

[mkirkpatrick]

I bought a K a couple weeks ago for 30 that is a lot rougher then that. If it is a k and it looks like it is in good shape and works I would pay 50. Hiball said he can get a kit for them, but hasn't said what the price is.

 

[Coptool]

So Hiball do you sell the rebuild kits or just rebuild the jacks yourself? I am pretty sure kits are not available from Hein Werner (or SFA). Also haven't found any good aftermarket spots to supply the rebuild kits although apparently haven't looked that hard. Clearly you have it figured out can you point me in the right direction.

 

[Hiball]

I bought a K a couple weeks ago for 30 that is a lot rougher then that. If it is a k and it looks like it is in good shape and works I would pay 50. Hiball said he can get a kit for them, but hasn't said what the price is.

I do apologize but i have been extremely busy, Check your PM.

So Hiball do you sell the rebuild kits or just rebuild the jacks yourself? I am pretty sure kits are not available from Hein Werner (or SFA). Also haven't found any good aftermarket spots to supply the rebuild kits although apparently haven't looked that hard. Clearly you have it figured out can you point me in the right direction.

Yes, I build/sell Rebuild kits, I carry most of the common ones in stock and have 3 sources for the odd balls. When Hein Werner purhcased Lincoln they **** canned 70 years of there heritage to strictly focus on the Walker/Lincoln line.

Also to the OP, As i believe your jack is a "K" series it could also be a "L" series as i checked my book and they both use the same kit. I have not been able to find any documents concerning the difference but id presume that it might be a age thing.

 

[mkirkpatrick]

I do apologize but i have been extremely busy, Check your PM.

Steven,

I figured you where out driving the train or your the new bride has been keeping you busy. No biggie, I figured if you didn't get back to me I would pm you. Thanks for getting back to me.

 

[ROCKET350]

Hello,

My WS 1 1/2 TON Jack appears different, slightly, than those in this Journal.
I was wondering if anyone can help Identify mine. Attached are some photos of the hydraulic power unit. I can get photos of the frame as well.

I would like to rebuild this unit, but am not sure of which parts to get.

Thanks in advance

Rocket 350

 

[ROCKET350]

Here are some photos of the frame, it says 1 1/2 ton model ws
Thanks

 

[Hiball]

Pull the Rubber plug and let me know if there is a special splined adjusting screw under it. Im sure yours is just a Newer series and they moved the Overload from the Side to the Top. It also appears the Release mechanism was changed from a Needle to the Ball/Seat. If you need a rebuild kit, Give me a shout.

Steven

 

[Elroy]

Pull the Rubber plug and let me know if there is a special splined adjusting screw under it. Im sure yours is just a Newer series and they moved the Overload from the Side to the Top. It also appears the Release mechanism was changed from a Needle to the Ball/Seat. If you need a rebuild kit, Give me a shout.

Steven

Fully accurate observations. Definitely a WS with late production revisions of early '80 vintage.

The "ball bearing" release valve and top mounted over load all pointing to attempts to remove costs.

"Mr. Oldsmobile" might find of interest, some of the information contained here:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18055

 

[ROCKET350]

OK, Thank you very much Steve, and Elroy, for your responses. I am now really enjoying reading your past posts, and illustrations regarding the fine rebuilding, and restoration of these lifting devices. I am extremely impressed with your attention to detail.

I will go ahead and disassemble this unit, and try to restore it mechanically. If I get the time, I will paint it, and try to post my findings as it goes along. Most of my questions seem to have been asked and answered in the links which you kindly sent me.

Thanks Again, Neil

Bye the way, Elroy, it is DR. OLDSMOBILE
And regards to Sister Judy

 

[JWS45322]

I realize that this is an older thread...but wished to seek help with a supposedly Hein Werner Winner series 2 ton jack. I purchased the jack from Ebay for $29.00. No user manual was included. I don't even know if it really a Hein Werner product but thought I would take a chance. Included with the jack was something the seller described as a "base plate". Yes, that plate is in great condition...but haven't a clue what it's use might be. Anyone with any information regarding a User's Manual and information about the so-called plate would be greatly appreciated. Will attempt to attach a couple of photos. Thank you in advance. Jim

 

[JWS45322]

Hopefully this attachment will lead one to a photo of the floor jack in question. I hope. Jim

 

[Hiball]

Hopefully this attachment will lead one to a photo of the floor jack in question. I hope. Jim

The winner series was the lower priced import line for the most part, I'll check my catalogs when I get home for any info on the plate.

Im assuming that's a H68054 Model? I scoured my Factory Books and cant find anything to identify the Plate. Is the disc sitting in the Saddle magnetized or something? Does the size translate over to the Plate? Any numbers on the Plate? Im leaning towards it being some sort of Homemade gizmo, but then again its New... Stumped for sure.

 

[jimmygincc]

Hi everyone!

I'm new to the site and an old tool restorer

I recently purchased this (Pictured) vintage Hein-Werner at an estate sale

Has anyone seen a jack like this before? I can't find any information on it

 

[Michael_in_DE]

As long as this thread is back to life, I thought I might slightly hijack it a bit.

I have a hein-werner porta-power kit. The actually power unit is shot. Is that rebuild-able? To expensive to rebuild?

 

[469 runner]

You guys would be better off starting new threads. Porta Powers can be rebuilt. Jimmygin, that is a pre WW-II I'm pretty sure. Nice shape.

 

[Threeduces]

You guys would be better off starting new threads. Porta Powers can be rebuilt. Jimmygin, that is a pre WW-II I'm pretty sure. Nice shape.

I have one two would like to rebuild Luke jimmygincc what is it?