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Hein Werner WS needs rebuild help

Rick Cabell

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I bought a Hein Werner WS 1.5 ton jack 35 years ago. For the past 10 years I have been sending it to every shop that says no problem. I even sent it to someone who claimed to be a expert in the WS series jack. Every time it comes back either leaking out of the box, or within a couple days. Sure, I could buy another jack , (not a WS), but I want my original jack fixed. Does anyone on the forum know of someone who is a proven winner when repairing jacks? Thanks in advance.
 
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blueflame6

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You can trust Hiball from this site, he has all the parts you will need or the repair that you reqiire. My buddy Elroy can walk you through the repair of your WS just use the search application above. I love my WS.......:rocker:
 

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Where does it leak from? Does it leak when just setting or while being used?
 

Richard62

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Hiball
Im new to this site and need help getting my WS pumping again. I have had it for 25 years and who knows how old it was when I got it.
It does not leak but, I opened a plug 20 years ago to check the oil and a spring or a check ball or something flew out and I could never find it.
Is there a diagram somewhere I can get ahold of to see what I am missing and get it working again?
 

Hiball

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Hiball
Im new to this site and need help getting my WS pumping again. I have had it for 25 years and who knows how old it was when I got it.
It does not leak but, I opened a plug 20 years ago to check the oil and a spring or a check ball or something flew out and I could never find it.
Is there a diagram somewhere I can get ahold of to see what I am missing and get it working again?

Pm Responded to also, But here is a Picture of how the Valve breaksdown.

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Small Ball 1/4"
Bigger ball 3/8"
 
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B17E1943

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I bought a Hein Werner WS 1.5 ton jack 35 years ago. For the past 10 years I have been sending it to every shop that says no problem. I even sent it to someone who claimed to be a expert in the WS series jack. Every time it comes back either leaking out of the box, or within a couple days. Sure, I could buy another jack , (not a WS), but I want my original jack fixed. Does anyone on the forum know of someone who is a proven winner when repairing jacks? Thanks in advance.

I guess ol' Rick wasn't all that jacked up about fixing his jack. :rolleyes2
 

BillL

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Well,if Rick does not need help, I do. My WS is leaking around the pump, after i have used the jack and it is sitting. The ram packing nut was loose from my last rebuild ( 5 yrs ago) and I tightened it today.

Is there a seal on the upper side of the pump plunger?

Help is appreciated. I replaced the handle bushings, sand blasted the heavy metal, machined new axles and machined the id of the wheels in the rebuild. All seems well but this persistent leak

BTW, it "may" leak when jacking, but it is only seen when the jack is moved.

Thanks

Bill
 

Hiball

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Well,if Rick does not need help, I do. My WS is leaking around the pump, after i have used the jack and it is sitting. The ram packing nut was loose from my last rebuild ( 5 yrs ago) and I tightened it today.

Is there a seal on the upper side of the pump plunger?

Help is appreciated. I replaced the handle bushings, sand blasted the heavy metal, machined new axles and machined the id of the wheels in the rebuild. All seems well but this persistent leak

BTW, it "may" leak when jacking, but it is only seen when the jack is moved.

Thanks

Bill

No Seal on the "Upper" end of the Pump Plunger, Only the Piston seal at the end of the Pump Piston. If its leaking around the Main Ram, You might be able to solve the issue by tightening the Compression Nut down (only if its a very little leak) If its leaking at the Pump Piston.. Pull it out and verify the condition of the Seal. Regardless.. It will get to a point where you need to tear it down to verify the condition of the seals/Cylinder.
 

BillL

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Thanks HiBall, the packing nut for the main ram was loose, I also slightly tightened the nut on the pump plunger until it was clearly firm in the bore. I added a little permatex #3 to the mating surface of the bottom plunger bore nut. I added fluid until i could jack it to full height, and lowered each time standing on the lift pad. I left it overnight and no drip or leak. I will lift the car a few times today and recheck.

I had replaced the ram plunger leather & packing 4-5 years ago along with the pump plunger. The main weakness in these models it seems (long term) is the pump roller in the handle seizes then wears then puts too much side force on the pump rod and wears the guide, eventually breaking it. My first jack identical to this was literally half buried in heavy grease laden dirt in a scrap yard in 1973. I bought it for the princely sum of $1.80. It was worn in every way, but being poor, ignorant, and with few tools I patched it and got the pump to work minimally. I used it to jack VW's and overhauled more than 200 engines ( and more) with this one. That put me through engineering with an MSME. In 1979 i was talking to a guy about it and upon seeing it he said he had one (much better shape) that did not work. $15 later there were two. 4-5 years ago, between the two, I built the one being used today.

It has no name plates and has a cast lift arm and saddle pivot. I think it is a WS as it appears much heavier than your pictures of the 1 1/4 o-boy. The scrap yard unit was well worn in '73, so it had to see years of hard service and suspect it may be late 50's vintage. I was so bad the saddle pivot had dragged the concrete so much that it wore off the material allowing the shaft to fall off the link arm and dropped a car. My arm was luckily out of harms way and i was only bruised from the 6 inch fall. Jack stands became standard following 1975.

I will add a picture later with some dimensions to help identify. I am quite curious to see when it might have been manfactured.

I still have three repair kits for this unit circa 1980. Maybe i will get ambitious and restore the one with the worst parts, now that i am retired.

Thanks again,
Bill
 

AmIEvil

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If HiBall can help me with pretty much the same issue I will gladly send my hydraulic unit to him for repair. I've got a leak and just cannot get it torn apart to put new seals in it!
 

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