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kctyphoon

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I posted a link for this same thing like a year ago.. A few "experts" figured it must be a way to secretly fund Al Qaeda.. When I pointed out there was no purchase necessary to enter if you followed another path i think it was Chinese hackers that were blamed next..

I wouldn't worry..

Edit - oh, and a previous one also included a set of Carlyle tools and a box.. People complained the tools weren't good enough for them..
 
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They are giving away two cars worth over $100,000 plus $40,000 for taxes. That's a lot of money. Plus, the money you buy the tickets with is supposed to be "donations" to certain charities. So where did the money for the card come from? It must be a scam of some type.
 

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They are giving away two cars worth over $100,000 plus $40,000 for taxes. That's a lot of money. Plus, the money you buy the tickets with is supposed to be "donations" to certain charities. So where did the money for the card come from? It must be a scam of some type.

Rich people donate stuff like that all the time. To some people 150k is like your wife going to buy groceries tonight
 

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They are giving away two cars worth over $100,000 plus $40,000 for taxes. That's a lot of money. Plus, the money you buy the tickets with is supposed to be "donations" to certain charities. So where did the money for the card come from? It must be a scam of some type.

Err, Einstein - they front the money and invest in say $200,000 in prizes (no doubt using money they have left from a previous raffle) - and then sell 2 million or what have you in raffle tickets.... Unless you know of another way to have a "raffle" without actually having a prize to raffle off - I'd say they are doing it the same way it's been done throughout our brief history on this planet..

Do you think the "Dream Home Giveaway" HGTV does every year is a scam too because they built a house first?? They do it every year.. :headscrat:headscrat
http://www.hgtv.com/design/hgtv-dream-home/sweepstakes

OP - you are just gonna get a bunch of people that spend 30 seconds looking at it, so they can come back and spend 2 minutes writing negative things about it.
 
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They've been doing this for a long time (and making a lot of money doing it). Like Tellingthem said above, it's no more a scam than the lottery is a scam.

I do have to point out one hilarious note in the rules. Section 8- Verification of conditional winners:
" If the Conditional Grand-Prize Winner is a Canadian resident, to win, the Conditional Grand-Prize Winner must first correctly answer, unaided, a time-limited mathematical skill testing question administered by telephone. "

:lol_hitti:canadian:
 
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Err, Einstein - they front the money and invest in say $200,000 in prizes (no doubt using money they have left from a previous raffle) - and then sell 2 million or what have you in raffle tickets.... Unless you know of another way to have a "raffle" without actually having a prize to raffle off - I'd say they are doing it the same way it's been done throughout our brief history on this planet..

Do you think the "Dream Home Giveaway" HGTV does every year is a scam too because they built a house first?? They do it every year.. :headscrat:headscrat
http://www.hgtv.com/design/hgtv-dream-home/sweepstakes

OP - you are just gonna get a bunch of people that spend 30 seconds looking at it, so they can come back and spend 2 minutes writing negative things about it.

But you're donating to a charity, not the party who owns the cars. So are they taking a percentage of your donation?
 
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But you're donating to a charity, not the party who owns the cars. So are they taking a percentage of your donation?

It's simple business. The assists as well as well as everyone who is involved gets paid from the ticket proceeds. This includes salaries, operating expenses and vendors who contribute to the build. After that the profit proceeds are donated to a charity of thier choosing.

There's nothing diabolical going on here. Ticket purchasers have a ligitimate opportunity to win the prize, plain and simple.
 

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But you're donating to a charity, not the party who owns the cars. So are they taking a percentage of your donation?

Most places that collect for private charities do this. Don't know how old you are - but I'm sure people will remember years ago you couldn't walk into a store or deli without there being a line of old coffee cans, each collecting for a different charity. Back then - those places "legally" only needed to donate 10% of what they collected to the actual charity. That's why you use to see so many all over the place. Things are different these days I'm sure..

You know when you walk into McDonald's or Burger King, and they ask you to donate for "X" and in return you get to put your name on a shamrock or something, and they post it up behind the register. same deal, but I believe they actually turn over 100% of the money raised. the shamrocks let you see "look how many people donated but me", and also give the people who donated a small sense of pride that people will see their names.. It's all a tactic, but for good reasons..

To run a charity raffle this high profile costs money, so I'm sure (I'm guessing) they keep a portion of proceeds. Enough to buy the next round of prizes, pay for advertising, pay their staff, and keep things running. I'm willing to bet they are not the "model" to base other charities on and some people are making tons of money from it too. But - it's a "one hand washes the other" type of deal I think. Meaning - you get to spend your $20 and have a chance at winning some great prizes like any normal raffle, AND you also get to feel like your helping do a good deed since money IS being sent to charities that you would not have normally donated too without there being the lure of the prizes.. Some people will buy tickets for the cars, some will buy tickets for the charities, and some will buy for both.. They all help sell each other... It's not a scam, just a tactic to help drum up money. I'm sure you will get your prizes if you win, you might not be happy to find out how much cash actually makes it to a charity with something like this though.

If you removed the charity aspect of it, I bet more people here would go for it just for the cars - but the minute they say "oh money is going to a charity" then it's a scam.. Lol. I had a friend that would buy $200 tickets for Porsche raffles out of a magazine years ago. Expensive, yes, but the chances listed of winning would be like 1 in 5000 which is WAY better than any lotto drawing.. So you figure whoever won - someone bought, (or would buy you) a $100,000 Porsche after 5000 tickets were sold, (however long it took to sell that many) that would have collected $1,000,000 in cash from participants. Pretty good way to make money if you ask me..
 
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The first time that I saw the Hellcat Challenger Dream Giveaway commercial it just screamed to me "fund raiser scheme".
My ex's cousin was married to a professional fund raiser who would run a "giveaway" in a charity's name. The charity would get a small amount of the take and he would pocket the rest. He was pretty proud of his accomplishments.
 

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You can enter for free*.

Free being the cost of two envelopes, two stamps and the time it takes you to address something and mail it.
 

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Most "Charities" are scams... If you look at what the take in, and what they pay out to needy, it would make you sick....

Here's one for you:

http://thefederalist.com/2015/04/27...0-percent-of-its-budget-on-charitable-grants/

A bit political, don't your think? Considering HC's run for President.

It's not a 'scam' to actually donate a small % of revenue from a charitable organization. Goodwill Industries does donate a large % but others don't. They aren't scamming you if they aren't breaking the law.

Disclaimer: I don't work for a charity but my wife has in the past. They had overhead like salaries, rent and overhead. Being a 501(c)(3) they did not make a profit but they kept money in the bank.
 

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To be honest - if your interested in helping a charity I would just find one that interests you and donate to them directly. I usually do Garden State German Shepherd rescue, cause animals rely on their owners and too many are just tossed away for stupid reasons..

If you're gonna enter, do it for the cars, I'm sure its a pretty small cut that actually goes to the charity, but at least maybe it's something..
 
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A bit political, don't your think? Considering HC's run for President.

It's not a 'scam' to actually donate a small % of revenue from a charitable organization. Goodwill Industries does donate a large % but others don't. They aren't scamming you if they aren't breaking the law.

Nope, not at all..... I just merely pointed out a "Charity" that abuses the system... In my book, it's a scam to collect millions of dollars and then hand out only 10%... How about this, if you want to start a "charity", enlist "Volunteers" who really want to help somebody, and just have them solicit phone calls to high dollar players for money... This way overhead would be at a minimum and you should easily be paying out like 75% of what you are taking in..You shouldn't pay yourself and "daughter" millions of dollars a year for salary and travel expenses (You know flying first class and staying in 5 star hotels), and tell me you are a humanitarian....
 

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They also give away different cars throughout the year. I usually buy a few for the 2 corvettes. Last year they also sent me a form to try for multiple cars at a discount. I chose the vettes again and the Dodges. Didn't win the vettes but still have hope for the Dodges. They did an interview with the corvette winner. He wasn't really a car guy but he was happy to win.
Don't know how much they actually give to charity but I believe they do give away the cars.
 
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