So I recently built my dream shop, https://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=433734&highlight=Airplane+factory and I decided to use Hellfire for the floor coating. I want this to be a working shop and not just a showroom or man cave and I was sold on the fact that it was supposed to be very durable as I want to be able to do restoration work and fabrication without having to worry about damaging the floor. Well it’s been about 5 months sinceI put the hellfire on and I must say I’m not very pleased. So far the most abuse it has seen is my kids powerwheels truck driving on it and since I’m finishing landscaping around the shop I had to drive a Dingo mini skid through the shop. Yesterday I decided to clean the floor so I grabbed a jug of Zep purple degreaser and after wetting the floor down with a hose I poured a little degreaser around the shop. I scrubbed it with a stiff brush and then used my pressure washer. Well, the plastic wheels from the powerwheels have left permanent scratches all throughout the shop. You can feel it with a fingernail that it is a scratch and not plastic left on the surface. Also, the mini skid (had rubber tracks) has also left marks that don’t want to come off either. Also, where I poured the degreaser has left a large discolored stain on the floor. If you read the article on All Garage Floors on this stuff they claim that no chemicals they could find would leave a mark. They also couldn’t find anything that would damage it. Well I guess they didn’t try a powerwheels toy or degreaser! I have a professionally installed epoxy flake floor in the main garage and I’ve treated it the same way with no damage whatsoever. The powerwheels leaves no marks and the degreaser doesn’t leave any marks ( I don’t know exactly what it is since it was there when I bought the house but it looks like a standard flake product, maybe a polyurea). I was told that Hellfire would be MORE durable than any epoxy flake floor. So far that seems to be very far from true. This floor looks like **** and I haven’t even really started using it yet. Now I’m faced with either living with it or grinding it all off and paying a bunch of money for a new product. I paid about $1400 for this and I would have been way better off just leaving it bare concrete!. I would love to hear from some other people that have used it to see how there’s is holding up.
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dirtydrew420
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Yikes! WTH is that third picture!?
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dirtydrew420
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Ohfff man that's absurd. Is there any type of warranty?
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Garage Flooring
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I am sorry to hear that you had an issue with your floor. It has been my experience that Scotty is as knowledgable and stand up guy as they come. I really hope you contact him directly.
There is not a coating product on the market or any garage flooring product on the market that has never had a customer with an issue. Fortunately for you, you purchased from a great company and I am sure they would love to hear from you directly
There is not a coating product on the market or any garage flooring product on the market that has never had a customer with an issue. Fortunately for you, you purchased from a great company and I am sure they would love to hear from you directly
Yeah, for a product that's marketed as being super tough and durable I cannot believe how easily it scratches and marks! I'm not sure what the definition of tough and durable is to floor coating manufacturers but it's obviously different than mine.
LegacyIndustrial
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Eric:
Yes, please contact us.
Thanks.
Yes, please contact us.
Thanks.
56Mark
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Dang, I was hoping to do about 1,400 sq ft in my basement shop soon. It would see typical hobby stuff, jack stands, floor jacks, metal fabrication, wood working, etc. Following.
TimTaylor75
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Yikes! That did not hold up well. Especially after only a few months.
LegacyIndustrial
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In regards to what I read here, without talking to Eric, it is important to share some information regarding this product.
Abrasion Resistance
Method: ASTM D4060, CS 17 wheel, 1000 cycles, 1 KG Load Result: 18 mg Loss
Adhesion: Cross Cut Method: ASTM 3359 Result: Passes 5
Adhesion: Elcometer 106 Method: D4541
Result: Exceeds 500 PSI
Dry Heat Resistance Method: ASTM D2485 Result: 400degF
Flexibility: Conical Bend Mandrel, 180o Bend Method: ASTM D522
Result: Passes 1/4”
Impact Resistance Method: ASTM D2794 Result: Direct – 160 in. lb.
Pencil Hardness Method: ASTM D3363 Result: 4H
Salt Fog Resistance Method: ASTM B117 Result: Passes 1200 hrs
Accelerated Weathering Method: ASTM D-4587, QUV Result: Passed: 1500 hours
As Justin mentioned all floors scratch and a scratch filled with dirt will appear dark on a lighter surface. I am sure some of the marks are also material transferred to the coating. In addition, rubber marks from a skid-steer over a pigment rich coating, without a clear coat, will mark, epoxy, polyurea, all of them. Lastly, it is a solvent rich product as well, so if rolled a little too thick could leave a softer surface which yes could scratch more easily. To date, first complaint regarding this product and has been out there since October of 2018.
Hopefully, we will gain some info from Eric and post an update.
Abrasion Resistance
Method: ASTM D4060, CS 17 wheel, 1000 cycles, 1 KG Load Result: 18 mg Loss
Adhesion: Cross Cut Method: ASTM 3359 Result: Passes 5
Adhesion: Elcometer 106 Method: D4541
Result: Exceeds 500 PSI
Dry Heat Resistance Method: ASTM D2485 Result: 400degF
Flexibility: Conical Bend Mandrel, 180o Bend Method: ASTM D522
Result: Passes 1/4”
Impact Resistance Method: ASTM D2794 Result: Direct – 160 in. lb.
Pencil Hardness Method: ASTM D3363 Result: 4H
Salt Fog Resistance Method: ASTM B117 Result: Passes 1200 hrs
Accelerated Weathering Method: ASTM D-4587, QUV Result: Passed: 1500 hours
As Justin mentioned all floors scratch and a scratch filled with dirt will appear dark on a lighter surface. I am sure some of the marks are also material transferred to the coating. In addition, rubber marks from a skid-steer over a pigment rich coating, without a clear coat, will mark, epoxy, polyurea, all of them. Lastly, it is a solvent rich product as well, so if rolled a little too thick could leave a softer surface which yes could scratch more easily. To date, first complaint regarding this product and has been out there since October of 2018.
Hopefully, we will gain some info from Eric and post an update.
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Scotty and I have been playing phone tag but I’ll keep you posted on what we figure out. I would love to hear from others that have used it and see some pictures as to how it’s holding up. Most of the stuff I could find was pictures immediately after it was rolled on, not after a few months of use. The good news is that it’s not peeling up or anything, I guess my understanding was that all it needed was a little scrub and rinse and it would look just about like it did when new but after scrubbing and pressure washing this is what I have so I assume this is what it’s going to look like. I can only imagine after 5-10 years what it’s going to look like.
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Snip
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Subscribed and standing by. I am building a 64x40 late June and Hellfire is one of the options on my short list as it will be a working (ok, will be newly retired, so semi working) shop. Mechanical and motorcycle repair. Welding, cutting and general fabrication projects. Metal lathe and mill work also.
LegacyIndustrial
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Eric, in lieu of talking with you, we will gladly send you enough material to cover the floor and if interested you can try out our new clear-shell as it is about ready to be released, at our expense.
As far as the Zep cleaner. It is a chemical compound, pretty nasty stuff. Zep recommends testing in an inconspicuous area and we state the same thing regarding ANY cleaner on our tech-data, last page. And so any cleaner should be tested regardless of how harmless you believe it to be.
(2) things can cause an easily scratched surface... low humidity (below 60% and/or too thick of an application). So if you re-coat keep this in mind.
Lastly, besides the scratches & the Zep incident, your floor appears to be down-tight and doing well. Still protecting your concrete as is the goal.
Please send me an email at your leisure or phone-call regarding this and I will consider the matter completed once we touch base offline.
Thanks.
As far as the Zep cleaner. It is a chemical compound, pretty nasty stuff. Zep recommends testing in an inconspicuous area and we state the same thing regarding ANY cleaner on our tech-data, last page. And so any cleaner should be tested regardless of how harmless you believe it to be.
(2) things can cause an easily scratched surface... low humidity (below 60% and/or too thick of an application). So if you re-coat keep this in mind.
Lastly, besides the scratches & the Zep incident, your floor appears to be down-tight and doing well. Still protecting your concrete as is the goal.
Please send me an email at your leisure or phone-call regarding this and I will consider the matter completed once we touch base offline.
Thanks.
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Black300zx
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Here's my 400sqft of hellfire after ~7 months of use. I laid it down in early October. It's been swept and had snow squeegeed off, but never washed or scrubbed. I took this photo yesterday. The prior week was spent mudding and painting the ceiling, so there's a generous helping of drywall dust (and footprints/drag marks in the dust
) The open spot gets daily traffic from my wife's jeep and has been the site of 3-4 oil changes and a brake job that left a puddle of brake fluid. A couple times I cleaned up the oil spatter with gum cutter without any apparent harm.
It hasn't seen any skid-steer abuse, but I have drug my bandsaw, drillpress, and shop press across it which have left some marks. I believe they are mainly paint transfer, but I'll find out when I give it a scrub this spring. I'll post a follow-up when I do so.
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Ok, So I have been wondering about posting my experience with Hellfire coating and was holding off, mostly because I was not sure about some things, but seeing as this thread has come up, Ill post them.
Purchased a "new" used house in November of 2019. I based everything around the garage of the purchase as its where I spend my time and wanted to enjoy it. I spent weeks (like almost ALL of us) researching what would be the best garage floor coating for my application. Having experience with a 2 part epoxy (Rhino Linings 30,000 sq ft) where I currently work, I was highly impressed with its performance, but was not set on the flakes, or two part. I really didn't need the "looks" I more wanted something that was simple, durable, cleaned up easy, and would look good. After all I ended up on garage journal because I was looking for flooring reviews and what not. Hellfire coating came into view and sure as hell seemed to have the reviews and check all the boxes. I sent a few emails to Scotty at Legacy Industrial and asked a few questions, he responded quickly and all was set. I was set on Hellfire coating. I let him know my scenario and that I was going to be grinding all the concrete with diambrush for best adhesion/surface and durability. Que the weekend I get the key's Ive got an entire weekend to complete my 3 car Hellfire project.
Saturday I get my sander, diambrush, mask and PPE and let it rip sanding all 656 sq feet to a very desirable finish. Then comes the countless hours of clean up. Finally get everything read to begin the application of the Hellfire Coating.
Sunday Coat 1 - looks good. Since I grinded the concrete down it really absorbed. Coat 2 - Looks good, more coverage but still seeing some marks but mostly due to the absorption of product. Coat 3 - Looking perfect like all the reviews and what I've seen online. I added the tint as I wanted a little darker finish and it looked great. A few buddies saw it as I was showing it off and all had complimented how nice it looked.
All looked great and I felt I was on track to having exactly what I was looking for. I let the garage cure for another 3 day's as my better half was working a lot and I had an entire house to move into. I left the garage untouched till the following weekend where I began to move things in lightly. All my tool boxes, tools, and other garage items remained at the old house as I really wanted things to be in place before making the big move.
Carefully moving things in over the next few weekends I began to move things around the garage as I was getting ready to have custom cabinets installed, custom work bench, as well as new tool boxes were on order too. In completing some stuff around the house, I needed to grab a tool or two from the garage and while setting some 3/8 sockets on the bench a socket and wrench fell off and landed on my garage coating.
The coating deformed. I was dumbfounded. I then began to look around the garage at the coating and realized that some of the scuff marks I though were going to come up with a little cleaning were not. The coating in its self was damage, deformed, discolored, how every you want me to describe it.
Instantly I emailed Scotty, and he called me asap. We went over all the scenario's of what I did and he stated that all he could think of was that there was not enough humidity.
That was the first time I had heard of anything regarding the humidity possibility. I found this to be extremely frustrating because had I know this I would have changed game plans. Not sure what I could do about the humidity seeing is that I live in Vegas and we're know for our "Dry Heat" thinking things over I did realize that the day of my application I was worried that leaving the garage door open to fully cure wold be an issue as a "November Rain" decided to roll into the valley. So, I looked up the humidity forecast for that time frame and from Sunday, till the next Sunday Humidity ranged from 26% to 100% back to 61%. It was raining all week!
Defeated regarding this I wondering how the hell I could get more humidity than that, I expressed my dissatisfaction with Scotty and he insisted that humidity was the reason but he had no hesitation in sending me all new product to match what I had bought and that another application with humidity would be a good decision. I told him let's shelve that for a month or two as I still had so much moving to do, it wasn't on my priority list.
Que up April.. April showers... I'm working from home, the garage is set up and I can move things out of the way quickly... I contact Scotty, he sends me out the product right away, its at my door step in 5 or so days. I set aside a weekend that's full of rain and has some more in the forecast.. I decided to prep the floor with a nice cleaning, and then go out and rent the floor sander along with scuff pads. Get to cleaning and notice that nothing is really coming up except silverish grey when cleaning. I was using diluted 3:1 Purple Power Degreaser along with 3:1 Awesome degreaser. Same thing with both, silver/grey is all over my clean up rags. Well this is great. After thinking things over I grab a "tough towel" and go after a small spot. Same thing happens. Inspecting over the floor, I've now found a spot where the Hellfire was supposed to "soak into" the concrete yet it has fully flaked and chipped off. It was going to continue to chip so I finally admitted Hellfire is not what I thought it was.
Every time I move anything, it left marks that are not cleanable, or removable. Id have to recoat. I understand that you can't drag a jack stand or a fridge across the floor and expect the coating not to discolor or something, but the fact that I have to put down a towel, blanket, or just pray the wheels of something don't leave marks all over my new floor is bonkers.
Hellfire anything aborted.
Scotty is a stand up 10/10 guy and I've got nothing bad to say about him.
Hellfire product in my experience, is nothing what it seems or claims. 0/10
Purchased a "new" used house in November of 2019. I based everything around the garage of the purchase as its where I spend my time and wanted to enjoy it. I spent weeks (like almost ALL of us) researching what would be the best garage floor coating for my application. Having experience with a 2 part epoxy (Rhino Linings 30,000 sq ft) where I currently work, I was highly impressed with its performance, but was not set on the flakes, or two part. I really didn't need the "looks" I more wanted something that was simple, durable, cleaned up easy, and would look good. After all I ended up on garage journal because I was looking for flooring reviews and what not. Hellfire coating came into view and sure as hell seemed to have the reviews and check all the boxes. I sent a few emails to Scotty at Legacy Industrial and asked a few questions, he responded quickly and all was set. I was set on Hellfire coating. I let him know my scenario and that I was going to be grinding all the concrete with diambrush for best adhesion/surface and durability. Que the weekend I get the key's Ive got an entire weekend to complete my 3 car Hellfire project.
Saturday I get my sander, diambrush, mask and PPE and let it rip sanding all 656 sq feet to a very desirable finish. Then comes the countless hours of clean up. Finally get everything read to begin the application of the Hellfire Coating.
Sunday Coat 1 - looks good. Since I grinded the concrete down it really absorbed. Coat 2 - Looks good, more coverage but still seeing some marks but mostly due to the absorption of product. Coat 3 - Looking perfect like all the reviews and what I've seen online. I added the tint as I wanted a little darker finish and it looked great. A few buddies saw it as I was showing it off and all had complimented how nice it looked.
All looked great and I felt I was on track to having exactly what I was looking for. I let the garage cure for another 3 day's as my better half was working a lot and I had an entire house to move into. I left the garage untouched till the following weekend where I began to move things in lightly. All my tool boxes, tools, and other garage items remained at the old house as I really wanted things to be in place before making the big move.
Carefully moving things in over the next few weekends I began to move things around the garage as I was getting ready to have custom cabinets installed, custom work bench, as well as new tool boxes were on order too. In completing some stuff around the house, I needed to grab a tool or two from the garage and while setting some 3/8 sockets on the bench a socket and wrench fell off and landed on my garage coating.
The coating deformed. I was dumbfounded. I then began to look around the garage at the coating and realized that some of the scuff marks I though were going to come up with a little cleaning were not. The coating in its self was damage, deformed, discolored, how every you want me to describe it.
Instantly I emailed Scotty, and he called me asap. We went over all the scenario's of what I did and he stated that all he could think of was that there was not enough humidity.
That was the first time I had heard of anything regarding the humidity possibility. I found this to be extremely frustrating because had I know this I would have changed game plans. Not sure what I could do about the humidity seeing is that I live in Vegas and we're know for our "Dry Heat" thinking things over I did realize that the day of my application I was worried that leaving the garage door open to fully cure wold be an issue as a "November Rain" decided to roll into the valley. So, I looked up the humidity forecast for that time frame and from Sunday, till the next Sunday Humidity ranged from 26% to 100% back to 61%. It was raining all week!
Defeated regarding this I wondering how the hell I could get more humidity than that, I expressed my dissatisfaction with Scotty and he insisted that humidity was the reason but he had no hesitation in sending me all new product to match what I had bought and that another application with humidity would be a good decision. I told him let's shelve that for a month or two as I still had so much moving to do, it wasn't on my priority list.
Que up April.. April showers... I'm working from home, the garage is set up and I can move things out of the way quickly... I contact Scotty, he sends me out the product right away, its at my door step in 5 or so days. I set aside a weekend that's full of rain and has some more in the forecast.. I decided to prep the floor with a nice cleaning, and then go out and rent the floor sander along with scuff pads. Get to cleaning and notice that nothing is really coming up except silverish grey when cleaning. I was using diluted 3:1 Purple Power Degreaser along with 3:1 Awesome degreaser. Same thing with both, silver/grey is all over my clean up rags. Well this is great. After thinking things over I grab a "tough towel" and go after a small spot. Same thing happens. Inspecting over the floor, I've now found a spot where the Hellfire was supposed to "soak into" the concrete yet it has fully flaked and chipped off. It was going to continue to chip so I finally admitted Hellfire is not what I thought it was.
Every time I move anything, it left marks that are not cleanable, or removable. Id have to recoat. I understand that you can't drag a jack stand or a fridge across the floor and expect the coating not to discolor or something, but the fact that I have to put down a towel, blanket, or just pray the wheels of something don't leave marks all over my new floor is bonkers.
Hellfire anything aborted.
Scotty is a stand up 10/10 guy and I've got nothing bad to say about him.
Hellfire product in my experience, is nothing what it seems or claims. 0/10
Scotty and I have talked and I believe that maybe low humidity was my problem also. My coating seems to be adhered very well so we’ve decided to clean and recoat as well as try the new clear shield. My intent was never to bash anyone or a product but just to share information and if I get a good result, I’ll share that too! This stuff obviously works for a lot of people and has the characteristics that I wanted so I’m going to give it another shot. Scotty has got to be the best sales rep I’ve ever dealt with so no one should hesitate to do business with him. It’s obvious that he wants to make sure all of his customers are taken care of and that’s very rare these days.
LegacyIndustrial
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Update. Scotty sent me the new Hellfire Clear Shield and I got it put on the floor yesterday. I had to clean the floor first, then I rented a floor machine with green stripper pads and roughed it up a little bit and then wiped it down with denatured alcohol. I then put a coat of the standard hellfire grey over the old stuff. I waited about 2 hours until it wasn’t tacky and then put the Clear Shield on. Scotty also sent anti-skid media which I’m glad he did because the clear shield is very glossy and smooth. It Doesn’t seem very slippery but if it got wet it might. Overall I really like the clear shield so far. It looks great! The closest thing I could equate it to is like staining a piece of wood and it looks good, then you put a glossy urethane on it and it looks great! The last couple of pics are from a small spot in a corner that I didn’t bother cutting in with a brush and it really shows the contrast between what the old stuff looked like and then the new. I will update again after some use. These pics were taken 24hrs after application so it’s pretty dry although not fully cured.
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Glad to hear the re-coat went well. We heard back from several customers who installed the kit (with clearcoat) and they really like it!
Scotty, is durability increased by the clearcoat, or just appearance?? I'm close to doing my 1800 sf, now 4 month cured surface with Hellfire. However, being in Tucson, with only 10% humidity, this thread has me pretty nervous!
If the clearcoat will help durability, do I put down 2 coats of Hellfire and then clear, or 3 coats of Hellfire and then clear?!?
If the clearcoat will help durability, do I put down 2 coats of Hellfire and then clear, or 3 coats of Hellfire and then clear?!?
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Black300zx
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LegacyIndustrial
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Yes, very durable clearcoat.
It is mostly the base material that makes HF.
Need 60% humidity for either to cure properly.
(2) HF then clear, if you choose the kit it's already done for you.
Black300zx
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Is the heat and chemical resistance similar to HF? Will it protect the base HF from the color-shift from sun exposure?
So do you think I'm stuck waiting until monsoon's in August to put it down?? Or are there any other tricks for getting around the humidity/curing issue?
benwah
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Correct me if I'm wrong but this coating is a single component aluminum-rich moisture cured urethane, right?
Back in "my day" applying industrial coatings in Phoenix we would pre-moisten any substrate with a very fine mist of water using a quality pump sprayer, if applying a moisture cured urethane. Mainly, I was applying zinc-rich urethane's to steel and concrete.This could be achieved by pre wetting 100 square foot at a time and rolling the product out possibly. The trick here is to dampen the floor, but not leave any puddling or "wet" spots. Just slightly discolored.
Also if possible, we would plug-in industrial humidifiers two days beforehand to raise the humidity level and be sure to keep the doors closed. In Tucson, you may need two humidifiers plugged in for 3 to 5 days before hand to achieve ~60% RH. Also, you will probably want to apply the coating once the sun goes down, as the humidity level rises a small percentage and the temperature will plummet. It needs to be under 85°F. But I will tell you from experience you will have the best luck when the temperatures are between 60-70°F.
Check with Scotty @ Legacy to see if this is a viable option. If they do not recommend this application technique, I will edit my post.
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LegacyIndustrial
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This is a viable option. However, have to be very careful with moisture on the ground as it WILL cause the product to bubble. Otherwise the humidifier trick has been done successfully before by other customers. Benwah always has the good info!!
LegacyIndustrial
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It has less heat resistance as it does not have the metal-additive in it. However, has excellent chem resistance. We tested this clear over the HF here in Florida, started in January in direct sunlight (this clear was always in our plans). Neither the HF or the clear have changed at all.
We actually do a tape test. Every month we remove more of these tape-stripes on the slab. None of the areas have revealed any noticeable change in color.
Black300zx
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Well it’s been a few weeks and I wanted to give an update. So far I’m very happy with the clear coat. It looks amazing! My kids powerwheels has been all over it and while there are a few small scratches, they are not nearly as severe and you can hardly even see them. This seems harder than the original stuff which tells me I did have a curing issue. I’ve been doing some light metal fab And general work and it is holding up very well. I’ll keep you posted as I use it more. My only regret is that I think if I were to do it over I would probably do 2 coats of clear for more protection just for peace of mind but it’s probably not necessary.
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I Just finished the Hellfire install on my 1200 ft^2 pole barn. I had to do it in two sections as I had some large equipment and a car I couldn't store outside during the install. I shoved everything to one side, swept, vacuumed out the corners/edges, wet and swept, then acid etched/neutralized, and let it dry out completely. I used fans during some 80+ degree weather. I did the first coat of hellfire, wait 2 hours, second coat, 2 hours, and then last coat and chipped. I did not have the poly at that time for the first half, so I ended up having to wait about a week for the poly to arrive and I swept off the lose chips and vacuumed the edges again before I applied. Same procedure for the poly. Apply, wait a few hours, and reapply.
The other side went quicker since the weather was much warmer this go-around, and I had all the material on hand. I did the same procedure, except it was only a few hours between the last coat of hellfire and the poly.
My floors were finished super smooth when the guys did the job, so all it took was the acid etch to prep, and I was able to get 600 feet out of one gallon of both hellfire and the poly. The whole garage took 6 gallons of Hellfire, 4 gallons of poly.
The chips were left as-is before the poly, I did not scrape. I wanted it this way as the chips add a little bit of grip to the surface. Tracking sand/dirt in is not an issue anymore either from cars, boat trailer, or by foot. Once it dries out, just sweep it and it's clean.
The only issue I had was seeing where I had already rolled the poly, since it is crystal clear and the floor was reflective with the lights on. I have one area on the second side I did where I missed a small area on the first coat of poly (didn't full overlap the roller passes), so it is slightly rougher to the touch and looks a little duller if the light hits it just right, but I put on a heavier coat of poly in that one area when I did the second coat. It doesn't really bother me, but if I need to at some point, I may just order a quart of poly and roll that one section.
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The other side went quicker since the weather was much warmer this go-around, and I had all the material on hand. I did the same procedure, except it was only a few hours between the last coat of hellfire and the poly.
My floors were finished super smooth when the guys did the job, so all it took was the acid etch to prep, and I was able to get 600 feet out of one gallon of both hellfire and the poly. The whole garage took 6 gallons of Hellfire, 4 gallons of poly.
The chips were left as-is before the poly, I did not scrape. I wanted it this way as the chips add a little bit of grip to the surface. Tracking sand/dirt in is not an issue anymore either from cars, boat trailer, or by foot. Once it dries out, just sweep it and it's clean.
The only issue I had was seeing where I had already rolled the poly, since it is crystal clear and the floor was reflective with the lights on. I have one area on the second side I did where I missed a small area on the first coat of poly (didn't full overlap the roller passes), so it is slightly rougher to the touch and looks a little duller if the light hits it just right, but I put on a heavier coat of poly in that one area when I did the second coat. It doesn't really bother me, but if I need to at some point, I may just order a quart of poly and roll that one section.
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LegacyIndustrial
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Well Bashr52 you are a trail-blazer!
The first person to place chips in HellFire besides myself.
Glad it worked out and thanks for choosing HellFire from Legacy!
The first person to place chips in HellFire besides myself.
Glad it worked out and thanks for choosing HellFire from Legacy!
GMZ
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Same here. Machine troweled and acid etched. I’m doing my 715 sq ft 3 car today and the first coat took only 1.5 gal and the 750 sq ft kit came with 8 gal of Hellfire and 2 gal of clear. I don’t know what I’m going to do with so much extra, even if I do 3 coats that will only use half the kit at this rate.
I did a small test square yesterday and after 2 coats of Hellfire had a nice enough finish but with the poly it should look even better.
Well Bashr52 you are a trail-blazer!
The first person to place chips in HellFire besides myself.
Glad it worked out and thanks for choosing HellFire from Legacy!
Thanks Scotty, looks really good so far! Now, where can I get one of those sweet HellFire T-shirts?
