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dave_dayton

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Thanks for letting me join. Perhaps some garage door opener guru can solve my problem.

My Liftmaster 3255 gave up the ghost after ~17 years. I replaced it with a Chamberlain C203 (Chamberlain's basic Smart Myq model from Lowes). The replacement was easy enough, but when I was done, a garage feature which previously worked had stopped.

All of this takes place in a 1964 house. The original Overhead Door garage door opener (with a belt drive and vacuum tube radio remote) died some years after we moved in. It was replaced with the Liftmaster 3255 mentioned above. There is an external cylindrical key switch located outside the garage (SPST momentary). The two wires from this key switch were wired across the wall-mounted opener button inside the garage, mounted next to the garage-to-home door - wired across the white/red + white wires. This key switch would operate all of the openers up to and including the Liftmaster. This outside key switch was very handy. Sadly, with the new Chamberlain C203, the key switch no longer works. Is there some easy way to resurrect this switch?

When installing the new wall switch for the Chamberlain, I noticed that shorting the white/red + white wires did not activate the unit. The PCB inside the wall switch must be a bit more sophisticated. On both the Liftmaster (purple learn button) and the Chamberlain (yellow learn button), there are 4 wiring connections on the back of the motor unit: Red, White, White, Gray. The Red and 1st White terminals should be door control; the 2nd White and Gray connections are for the safety sensor system.

The white/red + white wires from the wall switch connect just as before - across the Red and 1st White connector. Although the wiring appears to be identical, the Chamberlain opener won't operate unless it's getting a 'signal' from the unique Chamberlain wall switch or else from a programmed remote.

So, how can I re-integrate my SPST momentary key switch? Thanks for your help on this.
 
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Welcome to the forum from Southwestern California. Regretfully I have no pleasant experience with Chamberlain or Lyft Master Openers; I use Geni openers.
I am sure that someone will come to your aid; just give them a chance to see your request.
 
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dave_dayton

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I strongly suspect this problem has to do with the "enhanced" security of the new opener/controls. The new Chamberlain unit with 'yellow button' is "Security+ 2.0". The older Liftmaster (purple learn button) is "315mhz Security+". Sorry, these are Chamberlain's terms - I don't mean to sound like a commercial :)

I noticed that the old Liftmaster wall switch would not work with the new Chamberlain motor unit - probably same problem. I doubt that any current Chamberlain employees know what a SPST Momentary switch really is :)
 
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I strongly suspect this problem has to do with the "enhanced" security of the new opener/controls. The new Chamberlain unit with 'yellow button' is "Security+ 2.0". The older Liftmaster (purple learn button) is "315mhz Security+". Sorry, these are Chamberlain's terms - I don't mean to sound like a commercial :)

I noticed that the old Liftmaster wall switch would not work with the new Chamberlain motor unit - probably same problem. I doubt that any current Chamberlain employees know what a SPST Momentary switch really is :)
Are you saying that Single Pole Single Throw and probably Push Button switches are Obsolete?
 
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dave_dayton

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>Are you saying that Single Pole Single Throw and probably Push Button
> switches are Obsolete?

Yes, obsolete. Since posting my question, I've done a bit of reading on this and Chamberlain/Liftmaster openers with 'MyQ' require a 'MyQ' compatible push button - a plain old SPST push button won't work.

My thinking, as of this moment, is to buy a second MyQ wall push button (~$10 on eBay) . . . mount it in an electrical box near the motor. . . remove the plastic switch cover and wire my external SPST switch across the internal push button contacts in the MyQ switch . . . then simply connect the MyQ switch to the "door operation" contacts on the opener.

This sounds complicated but it might be easy. I'll know more when I tear into one of the MyQ wall switches. The link below is to an eBay listing for a MyQ compatible wall switch. A switch like this came with the Chamberlain opener. The backside of the switch is a rather complex PCB, but I'm sure, once the plastic switch parts are removed, that there will be a simple surface-mounted push-button switch that I can wire across.

MyQ compatible switch for sale on eBay

Be sure to look at all three pics in the eBay listing. The third pic is the backside of this switch - not for the feint of heart :)
 

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>Are you saying that Single Pole Single Throw and probably Push Button
> switches are Obsolete?

Yes, obsolete. Since posting my question, I've done a bit of reading on this and Chamberlain/Liftmaster openers with 'MyQ' require a 'MyQ' compatible push button - a plain old SPST push button won't work.

My thinking, as of this moment, is to buy a second MyQ wall push button (~$10 on eBay) . . . mount it in an electrical box near the motor. . . remove the plastic switch cover and wire my external SPST switch across the internal push button contacts in the MyQ switch . . . then simply connect the MyQ switch to the "door operation" contacts on the opener.

This sounds complicated but it might be easy. I'll know more when I tear into one of the MyQ wall switches. The link below is to an eBay listing for a MyQ compatible wall switch. A switch like this came with the Chamberlain opener. The backside of the switch is a rather complex PCB, but I'm sure, once the plastic switch parts are removed, that there will be a simple surface-mounted push-button switch that I can wire across.

MyQ compatible switch for sale on eBay

Be sure to look at all three pics in the eBay listing. The third pic is the backside of this switch - not for the feint of heart :)
That's what I did to make the relay in my house alarm system actuate my new opener.
 
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