Hello from Long Island NY!

[Burbman]

In the process of building a 24x30 detached garage. Framing is done and hope to have it complete with driveway poured by New Year's. Walls are 9' and will have a 16x8 door. Ridge height is 14' due to local code restrictions, so not a lot of room up top for storage.

My plan is to have room to park two full size cars, with my workbench and tool storage across the back wall, and shelves along the side walls. We had a 26x26 attached garage when we lived in Louisville, and it worked out well. With 2 cars parked inside, I could still get to my tools and do small projects on the workbench. I could also work on a car project and still have plenty of room to use the other bay as daily parking. With both cars out I could turn the garage into either a wood shop or metal shop, depending on the project.

Thanks to some good threads on this forum, I'm coming along in my planning. Electric will be a 100a subpanel, for heat I am installing 2 5000w electric ceiling heaters (King GH2405TB), one at each end of the garage. I may run gas in the future, but not in the budget right now.

Lighting will be 8 8' T-8 quad strips for a total of 32 4' bulbs. At 2950 lumens per bulb, that gives me 94,400 total lumens, or 131 L/sf, pretty good illumination.

Using V Seal 101 on the floor to seal it up. Seemed to be the best choice of sealing the concrete against major stains without losing any traction. I thought I wanted epoxy, but it will become too slippery with sawdust and not sure if it will hold up to welding sparks. This is a working garage, so not looking for a Jay Leno display case.

I will be installing air, but haven't decided on a compressor yet.

Once I get it wired up, I plan to insulate and drywall with 5/8" firestop. I'll have to strap the ceiling since the joists are 32" OC. I'm guessing 1x3's will be OK for that, the joists are 2x10 so they'll carry the weight OK. Probably put some plywood up top and a set of pull-down attic stairs so I can put a few things in the "attic", spare car parts, etc.

Pics to follow and as always all comments welcome.

 

[Nelson58]

In the process of building a 24x30 detached garage. Framing is done and hope to have it complete with driveway poured by New Year's. Walls are 9' and will have a 16x8 door. Ridge height is 14' due to local code restrictions, so not a lot of room up top for storage.

My plan is to have room to park two full size cars, with my workbench and tool storage across the back wall, and shelves along the side walls. We had a 26x26 attached garage when we lived in Louisville, and it worked out well. With 2 cars parked inside, I could still get to my tools and do small projects on the workbench. I could also work on a car project and still have plenty of room to use the other bay as daily parking. With both cars out I could turn the garage into either a wood shop or metal shop, depending on the project.

Thanks to some good threads on this forum, I'm coming along in my planning. Electric will be a 100a subpanel, for heat I am installing 2 5000w electric ceiling heaters (King GH2405TB), one at each end of the garage. I may run gas in the future, but not in the budget right now.

Lighting will be 8 8' T-8 quad strips for a total of 32 4' bulbs. At 2950 lumens per bulb, that gives me 94,400 total lumens, or 131 L/sf, pretty good illumination.

Using V Seal 101 on the floor to seal it up. Seemed to be the best choice of sealing the concrete against major stains without losing any traction. I thought I wanted epoxy, but it will become too slippery with sawdust and not sure if it will hold up to welding sparks. This is a working garage, so not looking for a Jay Leno display case.

I will be installing air, but haven't decided on a compressor yet.

Once I get it wired up, I plan to insulate and drywall with 5/8" firestop. I'll have to strap the ceiling since the joists are 32" OC. I'm guessing 1x3's will be OK for that, the joists are 2x10 so they'll carry the weight OK. Probably put some plywood up top and a set of pull-down attic stairs so I can put a few things in the "attic", spare car parts, etc.

Pics to follow and as always all comments welcome.

Hi there.

I'm on the island, but not as far out as you.

You are so lucky to have room for such a large garage.

One thing, I would go 16" on the second floor 2x10s.
You're saving a few bucks, and losing the ability to have a very strong second floor.

Good luck!

Nels

 

[Burbman]

With a 9' ceiling and a 14' ridge, less the depth of the joist and the rafters, there's only like 3' height there...just enough for a few boxes of storage stuff. We don't have a lot fo room, the lot is only 1/4 acre, but the house is only 1500 sf and sits to one side of the lot, so we had the room.

 

[rlitman]

Welcome neighbor.

FYI, most attic stairs are designed for a 22 1/2" rough opening (24" OC joists). I did the loft in my garage with joists a bit under 16" OC (it just worked out that way), except one span at 24" OC for the ladder, with the joists on either side of that one doubled up.

3' is not a lot of storage height. The loft in my garage has just about 5' of clearance between the deck and the bottom of the ridge beam. Yet I still manage to keep an 80 gallon vertical compressor up there (I had to do some modifications to make that work), plus right now around 800lbs of bagged ice melt, a 26" 2-stage snowblower and all other sorts of stuff.

 

[Burbman]

I know....unfortunately variances for garage heights over 14' are not to be had here in Islip. Had I gone standard 8' wall and 7' door, I would have had more storage, but I really wanted the ceiling height in case I spring for a mid-rise lift.

 

[Nelson58]

Here across the City line, it's 7 feet 6. Makes it ridiculous to have a really good shed.

 

[drivesitfar]

Burb: welcome to the forum and hope to see you post a few pictures when you have time after Christmas.

also if you haven't already built the storage you might build a hanging loft sort of storage area so you won't have stairway cutting into your floor and wall space.

cheers and MERRY CHRISTMAS

 

[XxToolAholicxX]

Hello and welcome to Thee Garage Journal...

 

[Burbman]

Burb: welcome to the forum and hope to see you post a few pictures when you have time after Christmas.

also if you haven't already built the storage you might build a hanging loft sort of storage area so you won't have stairway cutting into your floor and wall space.

cheers and MERRY CHRISTMAS

Hey, talk to me about this "hanging loft"....

 

[bry@n]

Welcome to the forum. I was out your way over the holiday.

Traffic wasn't bad for the Christmas holiday.

 

[drivesitfar]

Burb: sorry i don't have a picture of mine,but i'm planning on building one soon out of UNISTRUT. i'll cut maybe 6 2 foot sections to bolt to my roof supports (i have a flat roof on my house and open supports in my garage). then i'll put maybe 8 or 9 foot unistrut across horizontally connecting to the ones hanging down so i'll have 3 supports to hang my plywood on. i have some 90 inch long 40 inch wide 1.125 plywood i was using on a rack that i can use or i'll cut up some 4x8 3/4 inch plywood to fit. i don't recall if i can use a full 8 feet to allow my garage door to open and so i can still have my lights above my workbench at the back, but it was about that much room. i can maybe find some pictures of some examples if you might need some.

i've also seen some members post theirs that they put on pulleys to raise and lower their platforms and one member had his model train set up like that.

PM (private message me if you have more questions and i don't happen to see them on this thread or just post your questions here and we'll keep talking about them and maybe help a few other guys and gals cause it's wasted space that can really be used for long wood, pipes, Christmas decorations, etc...

 

[drivesitfar]

Burb: i actually had a storage loft in my garage where i'm going to hang this new one made out of unistrut made out of 2x4's and plywood. the 2x4's underneath were starting to sag pretty good so i eliminated the loft about 5 years ago when i used that side of the garage to do some of my P90 workouts. i used the wood version for maybe 20 years for all my bride's christmas, easter, and kids stuff and i had a loft on my side i used for lumber and pipes that has also been removed when i had a gym in there.

i really need some good pipe and lumber storage inside out of the rain so hopefully i'll have this built soon.

 

[ratdoggy]

Welcome from someone that lived in Islip for 17 years......
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