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bams50

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Hello forum!

My name is Bob and I'm from upstate NY, about 25 miles directly North of Syracuse, which is dead center of the state. I am a rural mail carrier and grew up in the used car/repair business. I did collision and resto work for 20 years before I went full time with the USPS inn 1995. Since then I owned a used car dealership which I closed in October 2011. At 50 years old I am looking to downsize and set up for the next 50:) I have 6 years left until retirement from the USPS, but intend to work longer, God willing.

To that end, I have started planning for my dream retirement home. The plans consist of a pole building, 50' wide by 120' long. It will be divided into three sections- 50x50 shop in front, 50x45 showroom/display room/gathering room in the middle, and 50x25 apartment in the rear. Interior height will be 18', allowing plenty of room for a motorhome and occasional bigger truck. This will also allow a second floor over the apartment for spare guest room and bath, and a large game/TV room. The second floor will have a balcony reaching out about 5 feet over the showroom.

The shop will have one overhead door, 12' wide by 14' high, plus a walk-in door. The showroom will have probably the same door. Heat will all be in-floor radiant with separate zones for the three areas. Shop and showroom will both have Big-*** fans (yes, that's the brand name!) and both will be sprinkler protected. All interior in those two sections will be steel, including ceilings. Ceiling over apartment will be cathedral style with two opening skylights.

We usually get rather heavy 'lake effect' snow here off Lake Ontario, so the roof and structure will be overbuilt for strength and steel roof for snow shedding. Once I retire it would be great to walk from kitchen, through the showroom, and into the shop witout ever having to go outside, or even get a coat. I can get back to what I love the most, which is restoration and fabrication. I drove oval track race cars for 24 years but had to retire due to neck and concussion problems; but I am still heavily involved, and might want to build and field a car in the future. I picture the showroom as not just a place to display my cars, memorabilia, and neon, but a place for gatherings of family, friends, maybe local clubs. The beer will be cold and there will be a large roll-up screen with projection TV.

In any case, the actual usage can evolve over time. If all goes well, the plan is to sell off all other properties, and I think I can net enough to do this all, or mostly, for cash. That will let me be flexible in my hobby pursuit, and whatever else we want to do as the years go by. My lovely better half of 27 years is on board, and our son is a Senior in college, already paid for. So rather than fear the rest of my life, I'm looking forward to it!:rocker:

So, please bear with me as I get used to the different areas of this forum, and what goes where; and my dumb, possibly previously covered questions. I'm here to learn all I can. My timeline will be determined by property sale, mainly the house, which might take a while. I'd love to be started before the end of 2012. We shall see...

One observation: As I started looking through some of the older Gallery threads, there were a lot that started as long-term threads, with beginning shots and discussion/questions, then abruptly ended with nothing further. I can see that if the person died suddenly, but there were too many for that to be the case. Were the back ends of a bunch of threads lost through a crash at some point?

REQUEST: If anyone knows of any threads where someone is doing anything at all similar to mine, would you please point me there? In particular, anyplace with living quarters in the back of the garage; and especially, ANY PICTURES GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!:drool:

Thanks for this great forum, it's just what I was looking for. I intend to be here frequently!:thumbup: And of course, any suggestions greatly appreciated as well!
 
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Welcome aboard to another NYS member. I am located in Delaware County. Grew up in Herkimer County and attended SUNY Oswego. I know all well what your winters are like.

My wife and I are looking to build our retirement home this summer. It will be on a 5-1/2 acre lot outside the current community we reside in. Already have a garage that we built (2010) on the site.

Our plan is much different than you propose, however just wanted to welcome you as a new member. This is a great site.
Ken
 

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25mi north of the Cuse. thats Parish or Colosse. Im in Central Square
 
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bams50

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Right on, it's Parish! And I deliver mail in Hastings, maybe I'm your mailman!:)

Ken, my son is a senior at Oswego State.
 

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Greetings From an Ex-Upstater! Grew up in and around Syracuse then eventually got Transplanted by the USAF to Omaha NE.
 

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Welcome from Western NY... Been up in your area several times ( Syracuse Nationals) Cruisin up and down Erie Blvd. Sweet inspirations car hop is cool!
 

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Welcome! I'm another neighbor of yours... out near Baldwinsville, but I work in East Syracuse. Right now I'm working in Afghanistan for the Army, but I'll be back to CNY in a few months.
 
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bams50

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shephd- Plans have been back-burnered a bit. I am heading up a brand new racing team for Oswego Speedway. It's a five car team, with the best of everything thanks to a major sponsor. I had a great season this year, my first as a coach/crew chief, my young driver won Rookie of the Year. A wealthy local company owner approached me with this opportunity, and I couldn't pass it up. I never had this kind of backing before. I thought about it pretty hard, and decided to slow down my shop plans to take on this challenge.

Make no mistake though, this building is still my life's dream, and I WILL continue the planning as time permits. But if I let this deal pass I'll always regret it. And I have never had regret from letting an opportunity slip by; so I'm not about to start now!:)

If you happen to be in CNY from mid-May to mid-September, make plans to visit the Speedway. See you there!:)
 
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bams50

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LOL! I live in Colosse. Small world!

The cars will likely have variables of 7. We already have 47, 77, and 74. The other two have yet to be determined. Here's a picture of two of them:

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The 74 has 2 races, won in its debut. The 47 is one season old, will be completely disassembled and freshened over the winter, as will the other two. The last two will be brand new. Getting ready to start ordering the steel and hardware. Gonna be a busy winter, then a crazy season!:)
 
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Your shop, showroom, apartment sounds awsome, I would definintly use fire walls between the rooms for your safety and have lots of fire extinguishers and smoke detectors. The cars are cool looks like a cross between a dirt track and asphault, and a power boat. Keep winning those races and good luck on your project.
 

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Right on, it's Parish! And I deliver mail in Hastings, maybe I'm your mailman!:)

In that neck of the woods, there's a chance you might deliver for a relative or two of mine. If you run across any Higbys, theyre probably stuck seeing me at family events...tho theyre more predominant in the Pulaski area.

Keep us posted w/pics plz. Everything sounds great thus far.
 
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Your shop, showroom, apartment sounds awsome, I would definintly use fire walls between the rooms for your safety and have lots of fire extinguishers and smoke detectors. The cars are cool looks like a cross between a dirt track and asphault, and a power boat. Keep winning those races and good luck on your project.

Thanks, love your awesome building! Can't wait to get started on mine- eventually...

In that neck of the woods, there's a chance you might deliver for a relative or two of mine. If you run across any Higbys, theyre probably stuck seeing me at family events...tho theyre more predominant in the Pulaski area.

Keep us posted w/pics plz. Everything sounds great thus far.

Don't recognize the names, but Pulaski isn't far from me.

And, when I make progress, you know I'll sure post it on GJ!;)
 

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One observation: As I started looking through some of the older Gallery threads, there were a lot that started as long-term threads, with beginning shots and discussion/questions, then abruptly ended with nothing further. I can see that if the person died suddenly, but there were too many for that to be the case. Were the back ends of a bunch of threads lost through a crash at some point?

Just noticing that your own life experience just partially answered your own question!

shephd- Plans have been back-burnered a bit.. I thought about it pretty hard, and decided to slow down my shop plans to take on this challenge.

Make no mistake though, this building is still my life's dream, and I WILL continue the planning as time permits. But if I let this deal pass I'll always regret it. And I have never had regret from letting an opportunity slip by; so I'm not about to start now!:)

Peoples plans - and interests - change all the time. :beer:
 

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Welcome to the GJ from VA!
Did equipment start-up work for a company in Baldwinsville some time ago - some of the nicest people I've ever met are in your neck of the woods...
 
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bams50

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Just noticing that your own life experience just partially answered your own question!



Peoples plans - and interests - change all the time. :beer:

True- and true.

Our plans have been delayed a little longer since we have decided we do not want to borrow a penny to build this. We could sell more property and have the money now, but we want to keep a couple we were going to sell. So I am doing the thing that is hardest for me- waiting :Shocking:

So for now, we continue to fine-tune the plans, and keep working the plan. And, playing race cars. The race team was pretty successful, and we are working hard at preparation for next season; but the shop is set up and the team is established, so it's a LOT less work than last year at this time.

Life keeps on truckin'!
 

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Just seeing this, I'm from Brewerton, just a bit south of you. Enjoy the board. I read it everyday, but post infrequently as I'm mostly learning stuff.
 
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Since it has been almost 3 years since I started this thread, I have lost a couple floorplans. I can't find one with the overall of the building, but here is one of the living area. The door on the left will be an entrance from the outside. The door in the center at the top will open into the show room/game room.

 
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