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uf-engineer

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I'm looking to purchase a 2 stage 60 gal air compressor. My budget is $1400 delivered. I'm considering either a Curtis model 555vt6 or quincy 2v41c60vc.
Both electric motor spin as 3450rpm. The Curtis air pump spins at 890 rpm and the quincy pump spins at 1390 rpm. The Curtis puts out 18 cfm at 90psi and the quincy 16cfm at 90 psi.

I like the quincy but am worried about the high rpm pump. In this price range I think the Curtis may be a better unit.
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Eaton? I'm not familiar with them and am not sure they are within my price range? They are a smaller company. What if I need parts years from now? Are their part universal?
 

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Just purchased the Quincy, got the startup kit, isolators, and FRL for just under $1600. Great compressor.
 

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Curtis is top notch, and been arround for ever. I have the 80 gallon one with the 7.5 hp motor and 24 cfm, and it has been great.
 

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"FRL" is comp-speak for "filter/regulator/lubricator." And isolators are anti-vibration pads that need to be used under the feet of stationary compressors to prevent vibration fatigue and cracking at the tank mounts.

Polar/Eaton/Whatever they're calling themselves this week will use their shell game to try and trick you into believing their pumps aren't made in China, but they are.

To throw another possibility into the mix, TP Tools has a Champion 60 gallon vertical two-stage on sale for $1499 with free shipping, although there's a liftgate fee ($50 IIRC) for residential deliveries.

Regardless it would be hard to go wrong with a Curtis or a Quincy either.
 

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Whatever company you choose, go to their site and see if there are any local dealers. I looked on compressors direct, discount compressors, etc. ALL of them were more expensive than my local distributor. C.H. Reed in Baltimore for the Quincy. Cheaper delivery, too. Might want to find the SO or Matco truck, too. Buddy of mine owns a Matco truck and could have gotten me the Bel Aire for a lot less than you'll see online, too.
 
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This Compressor is locally Priced at $1,499.00
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Features & Options Included:
· Eaton 100% Cast-Iron Construction Compressor Pump
· Low Pump RPM – QUIET – NOT High RPM & Loud
· Raised Mounting Platform under the Pump
· Built-In Cooler Line for Maximum Cooling
· Solid Cast Iron Crankcase with oil sight glass– NOT Aluminum
· Steel Crankshaft with Ball Bearing for Solid Pump Support
· Cast Iron Cylinders – NOT Aluminum with Sleeve
· ALL Steel Connecting Rods with Replaceable bearings – NOT aluminum
· Disk Valves – NOT Cheap Reed Valves. Disk Valves are much easier to maintain & more durable
· Industrial-Duty, 1750 RPM (not 3450 RPM) Name Brand – UL & CSA Approved
· 1-1/8” Motor Output Shaft
· Adjustable Belt Tensioner
· 2-B Style Drive Belts – Heavy Industrial Grade
· 100% 13-Gauge Steel Belt Guard
· Taper Lock Industrial Motor Pulley – Cast Iron
· ASME Certified Air Tank – Approved for ALL 50 states
· Continuous Run & Automatic Start/Stop
· Prewired Starter Switch with Adjustable Amp Range
· ¾” Ball Valve Outlet Valve
· All ASME Safety Valves on Receiver Tank
· All Brass 1/2” Check Valve with Teflon Seat
· Built-in Unloader which allows load less starting
· High Quality Pressure Gauge
· Tank Drain Pipe with Ball Valve for easy & fast tank draining

The Eaton units have more features than any other unit on the market. You will see units with less features, less warranty, and high RPM pumps, aluminum not CAST IRON for $425.00 more in price. When you do the math and comparisons you will see that nothing beats an Eaton Compressor.


Specifications:
· Shipping Weight: 520lbs.
· Vertical Dimensions: 22” D x 30” W x 70” H
· Horizontal Dimensions: 54” L x 22” W x 40” H
· True 5 HP Single Phase or 3-Phase Name Brand Motor – 1750 RPM – 208/230/460/480V
· Factory Set 145 PSI Shut-Off Max Pressure - Turn-On Pressure 110
· 3-Cylinder Pump – Displacement 18 CFM @ 0 PSI; 14 SCFM @ 100 PSI; 850 low RPM
· 60-gallon Vertical or Horizontal ASME Air Tank
· 40-amp circuit breaker required on Single Phase, 208/220V
· 30-amp circuit breaker required on 3-Phase, 208/220V
· 20-amp circuit breaker required on 3-Phase, 460/480V
· 5-Year Bumper-to-Bumper Parts Warranty – NOT pro-rated
· Model Numbers:
PP05V060Y1 (60-Gallon Vertical Single Phase)
PP05H060Y1 (60-Gallon Horizontal Single Phase)
PP05V060Y3 (60-Gallon Vertical 3-Phase)
PP05H060Y3 (60-Gallon Horizontal 3-Phase)
COMPRESSOR PUMP
Eaton Pumps are built to last and are SUPER quiet in operation. This is because of our low pump speeds and compressor design. The EC20 Pump has all steel connecting rods with replaceable rod bearing inserts. This means our rods can be rebuilt and are not a throw-away. 99% of our competition (name brand) are using aluminum throw-away connecting rods with no rebuildable capability. The all cast iron crankshaft with ball bearings on the front and rear of the crankshaft create a smoother operating compressor with less drag and less electric being used. Removable 100% cast iron cylinders. This is more stable under heavy workloads and does not warp from heat like aluminum cylinders with a pressed-in sleeve. Most of our competition are using aluminum cylinders with a pressed-in sleeve. They are only good for 40-50% duty cycle and claim 100% duty cycle. In a year or so, most are replaced because they would not hold up under heavy use. All cast iron cylinder heads – NOT aluminum. Aluminum heads from heat will warp and cause head gasket problems. Cast iron head is more dependable and will last with trouble free operation. Intake and Exhaust valves are disk valve design. Most of our competition are using reed valves which are throw away and not rebuildable. Disk valves can be serviced in minutes instead of hours like reed valves. Our disk valves come out of the top of the head. Disk valves have been around for over 100 years. Our compression and oil rings are high quality and provide low oil carry over (1-5 pmm). Our pumps are precision ground pistons with tight tolerances for low oil carry over. We also use quality non-absorbent gaskets. This keeps oil seepage from coming off of the pump. This pump has an all cast iron flywheel with built-in fan– NOT aluminum. Aluminum does not give the proper throw when the pump is running. The extra weight of cast iron when running gives the pump more throw on the compression stroke and puts less load on the electric motor. Our crankcase is also all cast iron – NOT aluminum. All cast iron will give stable crankshaft alignment and will handle more work load under heavy load conditions. This pump has built-in intake head unloaders. These unloaders are built into the intake valve assembly on the compressor head. These unload or open the intake valves under constant run applications such as gas drive and electric units for constant run applications. This feature reduces internal pump heat from compression because the intake valve is held open under unloading cycle. It allows fresh air to come into the cylinder chamber but under compression stroke, the unloader holds the intake valve open allowing the air to blow back out the intake filter. This fresh air absorbs the heat out of the pump under heavy workloads. This pump includes a pre-cooling line that cools the air before it goes into the tank and also includes an all copper main feed line from the pump into the tank. This is copper for durability and not aluminum. We have one of the lowest RPM compressors on the market. This is critical. Many companies are lowering the quality of their product and running high RPM. High RPM causes high noise or db levels, lots of water in your airbecause the air is much hotter, lots of vibration and harmonic distortion, less belt wear, and most of all – longer pump life. Don’t cheat yourself…go low RPM and a BIG pump. Go Big or go home – you will be glad you did. Compare pump speeds from different manufacturers and you will see we are the lowest RPM. We can still give you high CFM with low RPM because our bore and stroke are bigger allowing us to run the pump slower causing less friction and heat buildup. Just remember…speed kills. Our competition is using small pumps that are noisy and high RPM. This is a recipe for pump failure.

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Checked with m y local distributer. They have An 80 gal kellog for about the same price. I couldn't find any info on them. So haven't given them much consideration.
 
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Double checked my notes from the local distributer. The compressor advertised was a Kellogg American Style 335 compressor pump at 693 rpm, motor at 1745 rmp. Some of the other features are magnetic start, 17.2 cfm at 175 psi, disk valves instead of reed valves (Don't know if that matters), centrifugal unloading, and copper finned intercooler.
 

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Kellogg is a quality air compressor, and parts are plentiful. I would go with a pump with disc valves. That style Quincy looks to have reed style valves. Just my opinion
 

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That price will get you a heck of a lot of Bel Air too. I have no idea where they are made but I've always heard good things about the brand. If you have a commercial address for delivery (or can arrange it), 7.5hp, 22.4 cfm and a 2 year warranty.

http://www.squaremcompany.com/industrial-air-compressors/air-compressor-3-2.html


I would agree there. I have a Belaire 3G3HHL. 2 stage with a 13 HP honda gas engine. It's a beast! And it's fairly old and still going strong.
 

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Does kellogg still make new compressors? I have been trying to figure out my compressor purchase also
 
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Compair owned the Kellogg-American line, and I believe they recently stopped manufacturing the older design cast iron piston pumps. It is my understanding that new pumps made by Compair are still available through distributors, and there are now clone import pumps of the same design.
 
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I believe the unit I was looking at is an imported clone. Don't know if that is a good or bad thing.
On a side note I found a used Ingersoll Rand, 80gal, model 2475, 3 phase with single phase converter for $1200. The unit is 4 years old. The owner thinks it is a 7HP unit. I would need to set it up for single phase.
 

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I believe the unit I was looking at is an imported clone. Don't know if that is a good or bad thing.
On a side note I found a used Ingersoll Rand, 80gal, model 2475, 3 phase with single phase converter for $1200. The unit is 4 years old. The owner thinks it is a 7HP unit. I would need to set it up for single phase.

the converter sets it up for use on 220/240 single phase
thats why he has it
 
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