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Dozerhand

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I have an overflow on my pond that has an ID of five feet. I am fabricating a screen to cover it. The dimensions of the plate the screen will be attached to are in the picture. How much surface area am I going to lose. Thanks for your time.
 

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Bill C

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The area of a spherical cap is given by the equation pi*(a^2 + h^2). Where “a” is the radius of the spherical cap, and “h” is the height of the cap segment.
So in your case it’s Area = pi*(24^2 + 12^2) = 3.14(576+144) = 2260.8 in^2 = 15.7 sq ft.
 
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The area of a spherical cap is given by the equation pi*(a^2 + h^2). Where “a” is the radius of the spherical cap, and “h” is the height of the cap segment.
So in your case it’s Area = pi*(24^2 + 12^2) = 3.14(576+144) = 2260.8 in^2 = 15.7 sq ft.

I concur.
 

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https://keisan.casio.com/exec/system/1514268767

Plugging your numbers into the above site gives 402 sq in or 2.79 sq ft. The area of a circle is 3.14 x r^2. Your 5' dia is 19.62 sq ft. I'm having a problem with the above that says more than half that area is covered..

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It’s because we are both assuming something different regarding the question.
You are assuming it’s 2-dimensional flat profile that is semicircular in shape. In which case the 2.8sqft calc is correct. I assumed he was making some type of domed cap (spherical) defined by a 48in diameter and a dome/cap height of 12in
 
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I'm not really sure what he is asking, but in your eq isn't the radius of the of the circle 30"...........48" is not the dia.

well maybe it is, if were looking at a 48" sper dome over a 60" pond.............like looking down (a plan view).........then the difference would be the area of a 60" circle - the area 48" circle
 
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I'm not really sure what he is asking, but in your eq isn't the radius of the of the circle 30"...........48" is not the dia.

well maybe it is, if were looking at a 48" sper dome over a 60" pond.............like looking down (a plan view).........then the difference would be the area of a 60" circle - the area 48" circle

I assumed he was trying to figure out how much “screen” material he needed to cover a dome shape. I probably immediately overcomplicated the problem as simple 2d areas/projections seemed too straight forward.

As for the 48” vs 60” diameter. I figured something was a typo. He said 5ft diameter pond, but then was making a 48” diameter circle........ ANYWAY..... the more I re-read it, I think the OP is making a semi-circular flat cover that will be exactly as drawn in his picture.
 
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what if the 60" Id is a 60" dia. horizontal over flow pipe and the chord/arc plate is attached to one end of the 60" pipe then the correct answer would be that he is losing 2.79 sq. ft of the total area of 19.65 sq ft
 

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what if the 60" Id is a 60" dia. horizontal over flow pipe and the chord/arc plate is attached to one end of the 60" pipe then the correct answer would be that he is losing 2.79 sq. ft of the total area of 19.65 sq ft

Which is exactly as LG figured, and the most likely answer to the OP’s somewhat ambiguous question.
 

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hahaha...maybe the real question was to figure out what the real question is

I tend to agree with you. My wife was a teacher and writing test questions was part of the job. A lot of times she would have me review then so there was not any ambiguity in the question that could lead to this problem or where multiple answers could be correct.

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Make 2 triangles with the 90 degree angles in the center of your circle. Add 25% to the area of those two to cover the curved sections s and waste.
 
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