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napatoolguy6908

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well i'm in a hard place and would like ya'll guys help
i work a napa store full time and like it but i've always been a mech. all my life and when i got married my wife's father need help at the logging shop and so i did it because that's my cut of tea and i've been doin that for 4 years now with him and now he wants me full time and i love working on the stuff and being out in the woods and hearing that stuff at work but the company that ownes my napa store is a great group of people we are like family and i don't know what to do ?
 
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You need to do what you are the most happy doing. To me, what counts the most, is liking what you do for a living.
 

stingry

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Working for family can be good or bad! If you go to work with the father-in-law, approach it as if it was a job with another company not family. Establish your working arrangement up front before making the jump. Salary, working hours, benefits, insurance, holidays, chance to buy the business at some point, these are all things that need to be addressed up front. It Would be best to have a written agreement. To many times a son, daughter, son-in-law or daughter-in-law are brought into the family business based only on a loose agreement or a bunch of promises that are not fulfilled and then things go south, usually ending with bad feelings or worse! Don't get me wrong, I left a good engineering job and came home to the family farm some 36 years ago and it was a good move. My father and I had no formal agreement but it worked out but this is not always the case. If you can get up in the morning and enjoy going to work, you have something that most people do not!!

Good Luck with your decision.

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FJ 432

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Can you work full time for your father in law and maintain a part time position with NAPA?

Does one job pay better than another?
 

Charles (in GA)

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Do you get health insurance at NAPA?, there are many issues to consider. Logging is not only seasonal but very cyclic with the economy, I'm actually surprised your FIL is doing any real business at all. Possibly he needs you so he can get rid of the "hired help"?

Charles
 

brownbagg

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in today society, its all about benefit, vacation, health care, 401. which company has the best package
 
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napatoolguy6908

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Well I have great benefits at the store and its just as good with fil and he does need a good person in the shop with him and in the woods working on the mach and its in the will that we get the company and I'm the type of person I want to turn wrenches not sale them I have always worked on stuff every since I was a little one and with my dad being a diesel all our life's it's hard not to go back to the wrench work that I miss so dearly
 
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napatoolguy6908

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And also the logging world has come back up with a bunch of log mills opening back up and we have such a rep and that's why we stay so swamped with work
 

Coleman396

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Well I have great benefits at the store and its just as good with fil and he does need a good person in the shop with him and in the woods working on the mach and its in the will that we get the company and I'm the type of person I want to turn wrenches not sale them I have always worked on stuff every since I was a little one and with my dad being a diesel all our life's it's hard not to go back to the wrench work that I miss so dearly

It sounds like you have answered your own question. As long as working with family is okay for you then get at that job in the woods! Good Luck.:bounce:
 

Kevin54

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well i'm in a hard place and would like ya'll guys help
i work a napa store full time and like it but i've always been a mech. all my life and when i got married my wife's father need help at the logging shop and so i did it because that's my cut of tea and i've been doin that for 4 years now with him and now he wants me full time and i love working on the stuff and being out in the woods and hearing that stuff at work but the company that ownes my napa store is a great group of people we are like family and i don't know what to do ?

Well I have great benefits at the store and its just as good with fil and he does need a good person in the shop with him and in the woods working on the mach and its in the will that we get the company and I'm the type of person I want to turn wrenches not sale them I have always worked on stuff every since I was a little one and with my dad being a diesel all our life's it's hard not to go back to the wrench work that I miss so dearly

Whew!:Twitch: You need to slow down, take a breath and put a period or two in that sentence. :lol:
 
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napatoolguy6908

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Thanks guys I knew I could ask y'all and get a good answer and the rite path to take and plus they were talking bout laying me off or making me go part time I couldn't make it layed off or being part time with a wife and daughter that is turning 3 this year and I'm not the type that wants to be on unemployment I want to work for the money I get cause in my eyes hard work pays off and let's others see how hard of a worker you are and show others nothing is impossible if you put your hands and mind to work
 
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Thanks guys I knew I could ask y'all (all of you) and get a good answer and the rite (right) path to take (period) And (removed "plus" redundant) (besides,) they were talking bout (about) laying me off or making me go part time (period) I couldn't make it layed (laid) off or being part time with a wife and daughter that is turning 3 (your wife is also 3?) this year (period) (removed "and") I'm not the type that wants to be on unemployment(semicolon) I want to work for the money I get (be)cause in my eyes hard work pays off and (it) let's others see how hard of a worker you are (comma) and show others nothing is impossible if you put your hands and mind to work

No offense, but take the logging job. I get the gist of what you are saying, and I agree 110% with that last line.

I'm usually not a grammar/spelling nazi, but I couldn't help myself. truly, I mean no offense. feel free to pick my corrections/comments apart.
 

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napatoolguy6908 from what I hear ya saying I would have a frank discussion with NAPA so that you can leave them on a good note in case you want to return at a future time. Sounds like you may be in the eastern part of the state. I don't know why some people have a hard time understanding a fellow Carolina boy. lol
 

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How old are you?

Which would you rather be doing when you're in your 40's and through your 50's?

Logging is hard on the body. I understand the allure, but perhaps a GED & Community College or Tech school may be worth looking into?

With your Napa experience & a degree in retail management, that's something you could retire on.
 
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napatoolguy6908

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i'm 28 and i've been to diesel tech school .. and hawk i'm in rocky mount . i'd rather be turning wrenches for the family. yes logging is hard on the body. i've been doing it for 4 years so far and every night i'm at the shop work til 12 am
 

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Sounds like you made up your mind, I most likely would have made the same choice based on the info you gave us.

They way I look at it, is if you and your wife are going to end up with the business, you might as well learn how it works and start making relationships with the people in the industry, as you will be needing them down the road. Keith
 

Vegaman_Dan

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*ex NAPA person #109

I worked five years with NAPA and enjoyed it. BUT it was a sales job and while I was called upon to be a real problem solver with some of the things brought in, it still wasn't working with my hands or being as creative as I wanted. With NAPA, you can be a counter sales person, an external salesman going to different sites (like that logging company) to sell filters, parts, tools, etc, or go towards the management and eventual store ownership.

But you mentioned you really like working on equipment. Perhaps you might consider becoming a NAPA sponsored jobber specializing in logging / field equipment? Whether it's a field shop truck doing service calls at different companies (laying on your back in the mud changing out a hydraulic hose on a trackhoe motor) or eventually in one of the bays of your repair shop with other mechanics (laying on your back in a puddle of cold hydraulic oil changingout a hose on the trackhoe motor), you definitely have some options for advancement. NAPA is very big on empowering jobbers to grow from within and have a lot of branding opportunities as well.

Check with your local Distribution Center and talk with the reps there about associated Jobber Sponsorship programs. You might be able to enjoy working on equipment and still be associated with the support and relationship you have with NAPA.
 
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napatoolguy6908

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vegaman dan was your napa store a indenpent store ownership or a napa owned store?
i'm in a ind. owned store . and our filter rep said they dont do that out of the richmond va dc anymore
 

gmm213

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I know quite a few of our local napa guys real well. Even the ones that are in there 50s would rather be in the Feilds but don't for one reason or another. When you get older if your acquiring the company you'll probably be in.the shop most of the time anyway.

The only reason I could see for staying at napa is more regular and shorter hours
 
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