Help identifying a tool?

[live2crochet]

I just joined and hope this allowed. I was wondering if anyone recognized what this tools? Got it from a man that had many really old and unique items. I have searched high and low and can't come up with anything. Any help would be appreciated. I think I have attached a photo,hopefully.

 

[MattVette89]

Photo isn't showing up. Try uploading it again.

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

You have to have made several (5?) posts on this site b4 you can post photos


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[Mintgrun]

You might try a Google-image search for "Saw Set" and see if there is something similar.

( : (just a guess) : )

Tom

 

[Roberts210]

Tom, you are hilarious!
Live2crochet, click on some other threads and post a quick comment. In no time you'll have 5 posts, and can post the picture.

 

[live2crochet]

Tom, I did a YANDEX search and came up with nothing. I like it better than the Google search. Still didnt give me anything. I can try again and post some comments and then I will do the pic.

 

[live2crochet]

I added a picture.

 

[Bighead38]

I have no idea what that is.

 

[captain14]

Standby. You will get answers either from the evening crew tonight or the day crew tomorrow.

 

[wrenchguy]

It's kinda awesome, whatever they are. Maybe front end alignment thingys?
Oh yea, everyone is gonnna ask about the backside.

 

[steaks&anvils]

please add pictures of the back and sides.

do the chains pull? and do the dials move when the chains are pulled?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

I can tell you that they are definitely not saw sets!

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Seriously, in addition to photos of sides and back, some dimensional context would also help.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

do the chains pull? and do the dials move when the chains are pulled?

That's what I am thinking. Looks like that arrow indicator would line up with one of the graduations on the scale, which is alphabetical on one, numerical on the other.

 

[wrenchguy]

1 disc is number marked, the other is letter marked?

 

[Private Lugnutz]

1 disc is number marked, the other is letter marked?

And they are not sequential. One goes 1-2-3-4 CW and 5-6-7-8 CCW. And I am guessing a 0 in the middle. The other goes A-B-C-D CW, and I am guessing E-F-G-H CCW, with what looks like a 0 in the middle. If and how those dials and those scales relate figuratively or connect mechanically to the other linear scales (6-7-8-9) I have no clue. EDIT: And note that they are not proportional. The graduations between 8 and 9 are shorter than the graduations between 6 and 8. So I have no idea what the values are indicating.

 

[wrenchguy]

Oh the humanity, a definite

 

[Leviton]

Tom!



You are not helping.

 

[steaks&anvils]

And they are not sequential. One goes 1-2-3-4 CW and 5-6-7-8 CCW. And I am guessing a 0 in the middle. The other goes A-B-C-D CW, and I am guessing E-F-G-H CCW, with what looks like a 0 in the middle. If and how those dials and those scales relate figuratively or connect mechanically to the other linear scales (6-7-8-9) I have no clue. EDIT: And note that they are not proportional. The graduations between 8 and 9 are shorter than the graduations between 6 and 8. So I have no idea what the values are indicating.

The linear scale on the handle goes to 9 and the dials only go 8 or H.

Those are made very nicely, even the screw heads align in the same orientation. While very uniform in manufacture, they almost look hand made.

 

[steaks&anvils]

Also, the font on the numbers/letters sure looks older, kind of craftsman-ish era.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The linear scale on the handle goes to 9 and the dials only go 8 or H.

Yes, but the scale is counterposed on the dials as I described above. Very odd. And the linear scale is not consistent spatially. Which is even odder.

 

[steaks&anvils]

Yes, but the scale is counterposed on the dials as I described above. Very odd. And the linear scale is not consistent spatially. Which is even odder.

sorry, missed that.

must be for use above and below the equator.

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

Prototype Enigma code machine


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[live2crochet]

More pictures shortly. I would assume they are old. Everything I have from the same man is old. Most of the items I am coming across are from the 1950's and earlier. Most of his items are unique and sort of rare. He was a professor, architect, calligrapher, immigrated in 1950 from Germany. Many of his items were from Germany, Austria, and Switzerland.

 

[live2crochet]

Ok, here they are. My boyfriend just reminded me that he also dabbled in clocks and watches, making and fixing. Is this some sort of clock tool or mechanism? He was also an artist. Entire chain measures 31" from the end of one disc to the end of the other.All of it weighs 1.78 lbs.
When you pull on the chain it just goes around and around, dials move

 

[Leviton]

What causes/allows this to move?

 

[macgee]

Could be a timing/synchronizing tool to help regulate the clock movement or weights? Way too big for watch work.

Cool items and looking forward to learning about them.

 

[live2crochet]

You just move it with your hand. If you slide down to 6 then the holes on the bottom of each close. Like it adjust the depth of the hole. Nothing else seems to move when you slide these.

 

[steaks&anvils]

Ok, here they are. My boyfriend just reminded me that he also dabbled in clocks and watches, making and fixing. Is this some sort of clock tool or mechanism? He was also an artist. Entire chain measures 31" from the end of one disc to the end of the other.All of it weighs 1.78 lbs.
When you pull on the chain it just goes around and around, dials move

Are the two pieces are connected by the chain?

My wild *** guess: I wonder if these are to calibrate or figure out the length/swing of the pendulum for a clock? or the drop weights for a cuckoo clock?

When I was little we had a cuckoo clock, you pulled the chain all the way down once a day to cause the weights to be at the top. Then the weights dropped all day at a set rate and that was to power the mechanism that made the birdie come out and chirp. Of course, I was little and these things might not work quite like that.

 

[samss]

And they are not sequential. One goes 1-2-3-4 CW and 5-6-7-8 CCW. And I am guessing a 0 in the middle. The other goes A-B-C-D CW, and I am guessing E-F-G-H CCW, with what looks like a 0 in the middle. If and how those dials and those scales relate figuratively or connect mechanically to the other linear scales (6-7-8-9) I have no clue. EDIT: And note that they are not proportional. The graduations between 8 and 9 are shorter than the graduations between 6 and 8. So I have no idea what the values are indicating.

Maybe the CCW and CW are for Counter Clockwise and Clockwise

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

Maybe to keep track of how many turns you put in a spring for preload, like on a recoil on a pull start, but for a clock?


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[Roberts210]

I've built clocks and fiddled with antique clocks, and I've never seen a clock tool like that.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Maybe the CCW and CW are for Counter Clockwise and Clockwise

Those are my abbreviations, not the markings. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Private Lugnutz]

You just move it with your hand. If you slide down to 6 then the holes on the bottom of each close. Like it adjust the depth of the hole. Nothing else seems to move when you slide these.

That's interesting. That seems to imply the pieces get connected with something else through that hole, and adjusted for different sizes. I just don't understand how the values could be whole numbers but the spacing of the graduation marks between 6 and 8 so different than the spacing of them between 8 and 9. What is the difference in the hole when that is set on 8, from 9? And is the change relatively minuscule compared to the difference when set on 6?

Steaks&anvils mentioned homemade. The Patent Pending marking lends credence to that. It looks like someone stamped it, crudely, unevenly, by hand.

 

[woody 73]

Just my two cents here...

I will never rule out anything (like a clock tool) but after seeing years of clock repair tools I have never seen a tool like that before.

I also think a home made tool (as mentioned before the crude pat. mark stampings); perhaps someone came up with an idea and they had a copy made of their idea first (before production)?

 

[Copymutt]

Prototype Enigma code machine


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Certainly has the attributes to randomly generate alphanumeric code within limits, but i think thats just a coinkedink. Not sure if the chain is fixed to the wheels or can be reoriented.
Interesting how both alpha and numeric indexes reverse at a seemingly arbitrary point and jump in value/ sequence.
Not a high precision instrument. Found nothing even close via several image search engines.
This is a prime example of the huge loss of talent & mastery being lost as generations pass.

 

[wrenchguy]

I assume its cast iron?

 

[slowtwitch73]

I would run this Oxtool/ Tom Lipton.

If it's not a saw set, it a watchmaking tool lol.

 

[Oldtuleguy]

For calibrating spring tension on slinkies.

 

[Old Man Roger]

I can't even come up with a decent guess.

 

[Old Man Roger]

Bump for the night crew.