Help identifying old tools

[TurkTurkleton]

Someone left a metal toolbox full of old tools in the metal discard pile at the local dump, so naturally I took it home with me. The toolbox is embossed with "DUPLEX" and has two fold-out top compartments. The tools themselves are pretty rusty, but most should clean up OK. However, there were a few tools I couldn't identify, and I'd appreciate any insight this group may have. Please see attached photos. Thanks!

 

[Oldtuleguy]

#4 is first pic is a grinding wheel dresser. # 6 in first pic is some sort of circle scribe. #5 is some sort of spanner wrench

 

[Oldtuleguy]

3rd pic is a bunch of alignment shims. #2 in first pic looks like a countersink tool

 

[Old Man Roger]

#4 is first pic is a grinding wheel dresser. # 6 in first pic is some sort of circle scribe. #5 is some sort of spanner wrench

Grinding wheel dresser missing the dresser part?

3rd pic is a bunch of alignment shims. #2 in first pic looks like a countersink tool

Agreed on the alignment shims.

looks like the tool marked #3 in the first picture might be a bark shaving tool?

 

[Oldtuleguy]

#3 looks like a drawshave of some kind

 

[Oldtuleguy]

Numbers 1 and 7 are pretty odd so must be parts of a saw set!

 

[TurkTurkleton]

3rd pic is a bunch of alignment shims. #2 in first pic looks like a countersink tool

Yeah, #2 looks like a countersink, just weird that it's affixed to an offset bar (see new photo below). Maybe for countersinking a series of holes equidistant from from an axis? I would think that a reference measurement to a common axis would be necessary for the initial drill-out, not the subsequent counter-sink though.

#3 looks like a drawshave of some kind

I agree!

Numbers 1 and 7 are pretty odd so must be parts of a saw set!

New photo of #7. Loosening the thumb screw doesn't seem to free anything to move, but maybe rust has seized it up. Or maybe it's supposed to engage with another (missing) piece? I made out the word "sawyer" engraved in the metal, to the right of the thumb screw.



Thanks for your thoughts.

 

[Boogerman]

#6 and #7 probably go together, maybe missing parts. It's machinist layout gauge/scribe/height gauge; use on granite surface block. Scribe part mounts to base. May not go together as set, but they're two parts to that tool. #2 chamfering tool or countersink. #3 drawknife for wood, missing wood handle. #4 dressing wheel for grinder. #8 carbride scribe notching and breaking formica/laminate.

Not used much, have several layout gauges and nice granite block in case I need. They're in with indicator bases and arms' many parts interchange.

 

[rancherbill]

I'd say they are part of a woodturner's tool box.

 

[TurkTurkleton]

#6 and #7 probably go together, may be some missing parts. It's a machinist layout gauge/scribe/height gauge made for use on a granite surface block. The scribe mounts to the base. May or may not go together as a set, but they're two parts to that tool. #2 is chamfering tool or countersink. #3 is drawknife for wood, missing wood handles. #4 is dressing wheel for grinder. #8 is carbride scribe for notching and breaking formica/laminate.

You're right about #6 & #7 going together. I found another thumb nut that fastens #6 to #7, however seem to be missing an intermediate washer or something because it's a sloppy fit, even with the thumb nut tightened all the way. Thanks for your help.

Edit: Super helpful photos too - thanks!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

The toolbox is embossed with "DUPLEX" and has two fold-out top compartments.

Duplex made and sold these ingenious exterior cantilevered boxes out of Sherman, NY, near Jamestown, from 1932 to 1958, when they suffered a fire and were bought out by Pendleton and moved to Ft Smith, Arkansas. You'll find the old ones like yours branded Duplex, Snap-on, Old Forge and other names.

 

[Roberts210]

#3 is a drawknife. Spokeshaves are smaller and more compact.

 

[AreBeeBee]

The drawknife (#3) needs two new handles; one's missing entirely and the remaining one probably isn't in good shape. Then clean off the spoodge and rust, and sharpen and hone the blade. Do these and you have a great hand tool for rough shaping planks & debarking wood billets and small logs. Fun to use too!

 

[bonneyman]

3rd pic is a bunch of alignment shims. #2 in first pic looks like a countersink tool

10-4 They look like steering shims to me, too.

 

[powerwagon63]

8 is used to score countertop laminate.

 

[M.R.Gillis]

Can anyone tell me a bit about these ? Age of the visegrips and not sure anything about the wrench .

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Age of the visegrips

Well, you've got half the answer by finding that patent diagram doing your own research, which is more initiative than most newcomers show. ( ) They cannot be older than that date. The "OTHER PAT PEND" marking refers to 2,481,866, which was applied for in May 1945 and not yet granted when those were made. Nice tight bookends and something WWII collectors look for. We've got a bunch of vise grip related threads. The one linked in the A-Z Index of Threads under 'Vise-Grips' in the READ B4 POSTING Sticky at the top of the forum is pretty good. If you go to the DATAMP site (google it on that term) and plug that patent number in at the top, you can go back and forward in Petersen's sequence of patents to learn more about Petersen production.

...anything about the wrench.

Looks like a badly eroded PLANET JR. wrench. If not, then similar farm wrench with cut outs from same era. Early last century.

 

[M.R.Gillis]

Well, you've got half the answer by finding that patent diagram doing your own research, which is more initiative than most newcomers show. ( )

Thank you ! Still trying to navigate my way around here appreciate the hospitality!

 

[Private Lugnutz]

Thank you ! Still trying to navigate my way around here appreciate the hospitality!

You're welcome! It's a fun site. The Sticky will help.

 

[four.cycle]

Hello M.R. Gillis!

you definitely want to keep this link handy if you're going to start collecting "implement wrenches"

and this one as well

you'll find your "Planet Jr." in there:

Allen / S. L. Allen & Co. / Philadelphia, PA / wrench (1880) / “Planet Jr.” implement wrench /

Click that second link.
Where it says "for most recent version" - click there - then DOWNLOAD the notepad text file from the last post in that thread for the most up-to-date copy. use the "search" function (in windows notepad) to find what you're looking for.

(* updated list being uploaded right now 12/04/23 15:13 PST BK)

 

[Michigan Mike]

Power wagon 63 is correct that 8 is a scoring knife. It is usually used to score formica prior to snapping it apart. They do get used for other things also. The one that surprised me the most was the superintendant that used one to make permanent layout marks on concrete footings.

 

[Nutria]

It's sorta been answered, but 6/7 is a surface gauge IMO.

Be careful with that drawknife-- they have quite the well-earned reputation.

The Deadly, Knee-hating Drawknife - Lost Art Press

The only serious injury I’ve sustained in the workshop was with a drawknife. In 1997, I was sharpening my grandfather’s tool with an oilstone at work. My hand

blog.lostartpress.com

 

[2oolhound]

Some people will use a counter sink (#2) as a deburring tool which is what they likely were doing with that one.

The draw knife looks like it is well used as the blades are usually longer. When they get that short they rock real easily and tend to dig in deep instead of whittling off strips of wood. It's still usable and can be held on a bit of an angle sideways (if you don't start hitting your hands on the work) for better control.

I like that tool box!