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Help me fix a metal door that doesn't close properly

ScaldedDog

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Our new-to-us home's patio doors are metal. Only one is really used, but the other can be opened to create a double opening. The issue is that the primary door is hung such that there is a slightly larger gap at the top hinge than the bottom, which means the door binds at the top when closed. It works OK in the morning when the temps are in the 50's, but by the 70's it's binding, and when the sun hits it in the afternoon it's really hard to close. All hinges are tight in their recesses, and the hinges are tight, meaning that there's no slop in them.

The only way I can think to fix it is to start grinding the metal where it hits the opposing door, but I'm hoping there's a more elegant solution to get the door to just hang straight. I've attached a couple of photos, and can take more.

House door 1.jpg
House door 2.jpg

Mark
 
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rlitman

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That looks like someone jammed something in the hinge to hold the door open (I've seen way too many appliance delivery people do this), bending the hinge.

Your best bet may be to replace the hinge, ensuring that the screws are going into good wood and the jamb isn't damaged there. Alternatively, you might be able to pull the hinge and flatten it between the jaws of a vise.
 

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Wow, what a great idea! That led me to this video of it in action:

I've gotta make me one of these...
On a related note, I've always used an allen key (maybe 3mm or 4mm) for bending hinges the other way (to increase the gap). Open the door and lower the allen key in the hinge between the plates as close to the pin as you can, using the short end as a handle. Then slowly close the door and bend as far as you need.
 

no704

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Yep you can bend the hinge. Alternative is to put shims under the hinge either near or away from the pivot depending on the way it needs to be moved.
 
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Uncle murph

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Our new-to-us home's patio doors are metal. Only one is really used, but the other can be opened to create a double opening. The issue is that the primary door is hung such that there is a slightly larger gap at the top hinge than the bottom, which means the door binds at the top when closed. It works OK in the morning when the temps are in the 50's, but by the 70's it's binding, and when the sun hits it in the afternoon it's really hard to close. All hinges are tight in their recesses, and the hinges are tight, meaning that there's no slop in them.

The only way I can think to fix it is to start grinding the metal where it hits the opposing door, but I'm hoping there's a more elegant solution to get the door to just hang straight. I've attached a couple of photos, and can take more.

House door 1.jpg
House door 2.jpg

Mark
Has anyone heard from Zeke lately?
 

Old tool guy

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I would like to see more of the reveal before I was confident on the bent hinge . to me, it looks like the jamb is not plumb.
Zooming in, the gap between the door and jamb looks wider at the top. Not much. Could be loose screws in the top hinge.
 
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