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help me rennovate the shop

dusterbd13

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so I've been looking at the build threads on here to get ideas. my shop is in desperate need of a complete overhaul. so, due to the large number of options that I'm seeing here, I'mkind of getting vapor lock of the brain.

I guess what I should do is outline what my shop is used for. first, it is used to store up to two cars. secondly, one of those bays always has to have the 70 duster parked in it at night. the other bay is primarily used to maintain, repair, and build various cars. I also restore vintage power tools. and make furniture.
the shop is 27 wide by 17.5 deep. 12 foot ceilings, with the master bedroom and master bath right above. two 8 foot wide by 7 foot tall doors. concrete block basement with doors, pretty much. walls are filled with cement and rebar.

currently, I have 7 four foot fluorescent fixtures over the work bay, 2 in the storage bay. the walls are done old fashioned whitewash (limestone/salt/water). outlets are limited to 4 total. do have hot/cold running water and a sink.

I'm on a budget, but need to maximize space/versatility/lighting. currently its 10 pounds of **** in a five pound bag. the space is not being utilized properly. it is not well lit. it is not really cleanable. it is cold/hot depending on time of year. I have a slight moisture problem, but the dehumidifier keeps up pretty well, I only have to empty it every few days to a week.

so ill post recent pictures of what I have going on now to give you a better idea of where I'm starting.

outside/entrance:



left hand wall/woodworking/duster storage:





back wall (really underutilized), has access door to cold storage (6 foot tall crawl space under the house to the right and up high ion the wall from this picture):


front wall between the doors:


right hand wall (automotive/metal/work bay)




the only real additions from these pictures are a 50's era craftsman table saw that I inherited, and a floor standing drill press. oh, and a bunch more **** and supplies that need to find homes. some of those homes are in the cars that they're for....

so my basic plans are to take the shelves on the left hand side down, burn them, and build a bench for woodworking. this bench would have a ton of drawers, and if I have the space a hole to slide my table saw in to store it out of the way. above this will be the biggest set of sliding door cabinets I can fit. pegboard between the two for various **** hanging. back wall will receive higher located storage shelves, mount my compressor up on the wall, and maybe a bench between the two bays where I can store my grinder when not in use. may even be able to build my drill press into the bench that I want, so I can minimize floor space impact. that's my biggest challenge, floor space. on the right hand side, ill build a new steel topped bench with drawers and cabinets, as well as jumbo oversized wall cabinets above. the shop sink needs redone badly, and id like to put the de-humidifier on the wall above it with a constant drain so I don't have to empty it every few days. I also thought about doing some lofts above the doors to store turning blanks, lumber/etc.

really, im grasping for ideas. don't know if I should redo the walls, what to do about the ceiling, what to do about the floor, what to do about electrical. really, I need someone to help guide me through the design process. the actual work I can do, assuming I can afford it. I just cant seem to get my head wrapped around where to start and how to proceed.
 
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astroracer

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The best thing you can do is make most of your benches mobile. Everything in my shop is on casters.
I have three heavy workbenches made out of repurposed kitchen/bath cabinets. Two I got for free by the side of the road. Tons of storage in each one.
Even my H frame press is on casters. Having everything mobile makes for easy storage and easy use. Even roll it out in the driveway to keep the shop clean.
Take a walk thru my Fotki site. Lots of ideas in here.
http://public.fotki.com/astroracer/tools_storage__orga-1/organization-1/
Mark
 
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dusterbd13

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In thinking, and staring downstairs for the last couple of hours (snow day), I think I need to make a few basic decisions before proceeding. its effectively a wide open box. once the box is complete, filling it wont be difficult. then its just playing tetris with plywood.

so, to narrow down the vapor lock, I need to start with the box.
1. what can I/should I do with the walls, and why?
2. what can I/should I do with the ceiling, and why?
3. what can I/should I do with the floor, and why?

most important things, in order: light, cost, ease of maintenance, appearance.
 

nolimits76

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I noticed you have the balcony above the one bay. And also that your garage is only 17.5' deep, although pretty wide at 27'.

How far does the balcony extend out from the house? 6-8' would be my guess. Imagine making your balcony the entire width of the house and extending your garage that same 6-8' out and enclosing it. Now you'd have something that is 23.5'-25.5' deep and would really give you a lot more space. Plus you could make it visually appealing.

As is, with your 12' ceilings I would be considering a 4 post lift that would allow you to store a car (your Duster) in the elevated position. That would allow (daily) parking underneath it if needed and open the other side for more of your projects.
 
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crewchief888

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i have a similar 10lb of sh*t in a 5lb bag problem.

my -88 s-10 trail truck and harley stay in the garage all the time, the wifes car stays outside once the snow stops flying.

everything that isnt on wheels is up on the walls or in the rafters.
i keep and store my woodworking/DIY stuff in the basement


my workbench doubles as storage underneath, and i'm rethinking it's size right now. ( it was salvaged table from a library renovation, and even after i cut it down, it was too big)

most of the storage are salvage items (metal cabinets) or repurposed (shelves and brackets)

air compressor is up on a "shelf" made from scrap square tubing and plywood, gives me some open storage underneath it. (jackstands, hand boxes and toolbags)

this summer i'll probaby do another big clean out, and reaarange things again.


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dusterbd13

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so iv got the ceiling figured out: white corregauted metal .

next decision is the walls. im half tempted to do a "slat wall" system (effectively a while wall of evenly spaced French cleats) so that way I can build and add as needed to suit the eventual changes. I know I cannot forsee everything that needs done aright now, so flexibility should be built in.

any reason not to do the whole shop in a slat wall design from waist level up?
 
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