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GJUN

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We got HW floor installed late last year. It looked great! But over the past few months, we've noticed big gaps between the wood pieces. Is this normal? What can I do to fix that (if it's not too expensive and can do it myself - 'your avg home owner')?
 
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GJUN

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Hmm It's not that humid. Does that mean in summary times, the gaps will probably close?
 

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Was the material brought into your house and immediately installed or did they deliver it inside and let it acclimate for a couple of days?
 

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Was the material brought into your house and immediately installed or did they deliver it inside and let it acclimate for a couple of days?

We had hardwood installed a few years ago, and it was definitely recommended that we let it acclimate for several days. It sat in our home for a week before the install and we've had no issues with gaps, etc.
 
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GJUN

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Was the material brought into your house and immediately installed or did they deliver it inside and let it acclimate for a couple of days?


We had hardwood installed a few years ago, and it was definitely recommended that we let it acclimate for several days. It sat in our home for a week before the install and we've had no issues with gaps, etc.

It was brought in and installed on the same day. With that in mind, do y'all think this is going to be an issue every winter?
 
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GJUN

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Get the manufacturer’s specs for the product and maintain the exact humidity levels recommended. It may come back.


“Talk is cheap. Whiskey costs money.”

Oh, that's interesting. Have de/humidifier in the basement. It will come handy, thanks.
 

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If the gaps are big like you can put a nickel in them I am going to say they will never shrink back closed.

I would also be interested to know what kind of wood was put in? I am going to guess that whoever did the install did not check the moisture of the wood when it was installed. In my climate zone we want to see the wood at around a 5% moisture content. You also want the moisture content of the "house" (subfloor especially) to be darn close to the moisture content of the wood. I am suspecting a few things happened here.

1. The moisture content of the wood was really high when it was installed which led to significant shrinkage. This won't go away. I usually only see really high moisture content on prefinished exotic woods such as Acacia. I see it with really high moisture content and it shrinks a LOT. Prefinished woods tend to acclimate slower anyway.

2. The house was really wet, built in the rainy season and all the wood in the house had soaked up the moisture and then as the building got closed in and conditioned all the moisture left. This usually causes different issues as it causes the wood floor to absorb moisture after install.

A dehumidifier is not going to help your issue.
 

yeldogt

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Flooring needs to have the correct moisture content when it is installed ..... typically delivered and allowed to sit inside for a week or two in order to stabilize.

In many parts of the country that sit time = drying. Strip flooring is most often stored in unheated -- non-conditioned storage and the moisture content goes up.

Speed from the mill is another possible source.

Unfortunately -- it sounds like the drying took place once the floor was down and while it may go back a bit in the wetter months ... it's not going back to the install moisture
 

Wayne67vert

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I'm a retired flooring installer. So take what I offer with a grain of salt.
You can damp mop your floor on a regular basis and it will help to maintain the moisture in the flooring. I said 'Damp' not wet. Too much water will make your floor board start to cup.
 

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Sounds like the installer was in a hurry to do the job and get paid. He took a shortcut by not delivering the flooring a couple of weeks early in order to acclimate to the humidity in the house.
If the directions on the package from the supplier say to do that and the installer didn’t do that, you might have a case but good luck with that. :sad:

20 years ago when I was more ambitious, I laid about 400 sq. ft. of prefinished hardwood flooring. I opened all of the boxes and stickered the strips in the room where they were going and let them sit for several weeks. No gaps in the flooring even now.
I doubt that the average installer crew would do that on a customer’s place.
 
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Randy in Maine

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I use a humidifier most of the winter in my house to keep the HW floors from drying out due to the heat being on. It is also the most comfortable for us at about 40-50% relative humidity.
 

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Wood moves as moisture levels change. Thus the desirre to have the wood acclimated on site prior to installation.

In general, summers are humid, winters are drier and less humid. If the wood was installed while it had a higher moisture content, then in the winter when the air is drier, the wood will shrink. Quartersawn will move less than flatsawn. Since it moves on a percentage basis, wider boards will move more than narrow boards on a per-board basis. A bad example, but for a very simplistic example, if the wood species shrinks 1/4" per foot of width, you'd have 1/4" gaps between boards if you had 12" wide flooring (adjacent boards would each shink 1/8" on each edge, creating a 1/4" gap between adjacent boards, If you used 3" wide flooring, you'd only have a 1/16th" gap. Again, a bad example just for argument's sake.

Engineered flooring, due to it's multi-ply design, is more stable and will move less than solid wood.

Things you can do? Like Randy wrote, control the interior humidity. Use a humidifier in the winter, and in the summer, whole-house air conditioning naturally dehumidifies. There's a balance in there somewhere.

Good luck!
 
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