Iv got 4 acres of land all set to put up a shop. Iv wanted one for many many years and in the spring I can finally start on one but need stamped plans first. So where would I get stamped plans for a 40x40x16 gambrel attic truss shop. I want a big 16x14 duel sliding door on the end wall and two 12x14 doors on the side wall. I also want dormers and lean to on one side. I'm desperate I need this shop bad. Thank you any info will help a lot. I live in Jefferson county ny.
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LB-1911
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Iv got 4 acres of land all set to put up a shop. Iv wanted one for many many years and in the spring I can finally start on one but need stamped plans first. So where would I get stamped plans for a 40x40x16 gambrel attic truss shop. I want a big 16x14 duel sliding door on the end wall and two 12x14 doors on the side wall. I also want dormers and lean to on one side. I'm desperate I need this shop bad. Thank you any info will help a lot. I live in Jefferson county ny.
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Chasbec
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You can take any plans to a local NY licensed PE (Professional Engineer) and have them reviewed / stamped for a fee. Here's a link to a list of NY licensed engineers: http://civil-engineers.regionaldirectory.us/new-york.htm
wssix99
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If you want to get this done quickly, go find an architect. Their stamp should be sufficient for what you want to do. If you go to a larger operation, they will hopefully have more junior people/draftpersons who can get things done for you at a lower cost.
An engineer, would work too but you'll probably need to wait a longer time for their bandwidth on a job of this size.
An engineer, would work too but you'll probably need to wait a longer time for their bandwidth on a job of this size.
klassenl
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Get the name of a good general contractor. He can help you. I worked with a good GC doing my garage. I was up front with him as to what I wanted, he played ball and I saved all sorts of time and money as a result.
steveo1o9
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You can take any plans to a local NY licensed PE (Professional Engineer) and have them reviewed / stamped for a fee. Here's a link to a list of NY licensed engineers: http://civil-engineers.regionaldirectory.us/new-york.htm
As a licensed NY professional engineer I can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find an engineer willing to put their stamp on someone else's plan, it is not worth the liability. If you do find one willing to do so I would be skeptical of their work. There are plenty of prefab shed and garage company's, and even contractors who have pre-approved and stamped designs. If you want a custom design you should start with an architect and they will handle the approval of plans, they typically work closely with an engineer for smaller scale projects. Stick to a smaller scale engineer or architect as they will be more willing to work on smaller projects.
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Stuart in MN
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As a licensed NY professional engineer I can tell you that you will be hard pressed to find an engineer willing to put their stamp on someone else's plan, it is not worth the liability. If you do find one willing to do so I would be skeptical of their work.
It can be done, but the engineer has to take the time to fully review the design, perform/check any required calculations, etc. Basically, it's about as much work as doing the design from scratch.
steveo1o9
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It can be done, but the engineer has to take the time to fully review the design, perform/check any required calculations, etc. Basically, it's about as much work as doing the design from scratch.
Yes it absolutely can be done, but the majority won't, and even if they do you will basically be paying them to do a full design anyway. The idea of pulling an engineer's name off of a directory and walking in with a set of plans to be reviewed and stamped is not very realistic.
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wssix99
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Get the name of a good general contractor. He can help you. I worked with a good GC doing my garage. I was up front with him as to what I wanted, he played ball and I saved all sorts of time and money as a result.
You didn't save any money by adding a middle man to the design process on something the scale of a garage. lol (I'll buy that you saved time and effort and effort and headaches and marriage strain, though.)
LAROKE
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The bureaucracy is a real pain in the ****. There should be a better way but, in the modern world, there isn't. For the professionals, small jobs are all liability and no profit so it's difficult to find somebody to do the work.
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I got by with stamped plans of my trusses. I would start there, if they made them, they should have engineered drawings. That was good enough for me to get a building permit, but I am sure they could have pushed the issue!! See if that will satisfy them?
Stuart in MN
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Yes it absolutely can be done, but the majority won't, and even if they do you will basically be paying them to do a full design anyway. The idea of pulling an engineer's name off of a directory and walking in with a set of plans to be reviewed and stamped is not very realistic.
I agree - that was my point, for an engineer to properly do the work required to be able to stamp another engineer's design, it's going to cost about as much as having them do the design from scratch.
srleen2
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I got by with stamped plans of my trusses. I would start there, if they made them, they should have engineered drawings. That was good enough for me to get a building permit, but I am sure they could have pushed the issue!! See if that will satisfy them?
Same here - I just had to have the truss design stamped on my garage, the rest of the building was just standard construction that didnt require stamped drawings. I just drew up the plan using design software and had the trusses drawings as well when I went to the get the permit and since it was just a detached garage the building dept has no problem with that.
OP - Are you sure that a full set of stamped drawings is required in your locality for a simple detached garage?
matt_i
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Personally I'd rethink sliding doors, its much more challenging to seal them up if heating is ever intended.
I am in the same category as above. I had to have stamped truss designs for "engineered roof systems" as the wall design is pretty straightforward.
I am in the same category as above. I had to have stamped truss designs for "engineered roof systems" as the wall design is pretty straightforward.
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maxpower_hd
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I got by with stamped plans of my trusses. I would start there, if they made them, they should have engineered drawings. That was good enough for me to get a building permit, but I am sure they could have pushed the issue!! See if that will satisfy them?
That is what I did too only my stamp was for the LVL ridge pole and the engineered I-Beams. The lumber company where I bought them had an engineer there. He reviewed my drawing, made comments on the ridge pole, I re drew the drawing myself and then they provided a form for the specs of the engineered lumber. Worked for me. But your area could be different.
MagKarl
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I got mine here - http://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/
sberry
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Find one has a better idea of the weather in NY.
justanengineer
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I'm about 15 mins from the OP and IMHO I would double check with the inspector as to exactly what he wants if anything. Being Northern NY, all things govt related are either simple or a royal PITA. Depending on the property's location, many areas dont require any sort of permit or inspection while others force some pretty rigid inspectors upon you.
sberry
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Agreed. Some may simply follow codes, some want a sketch for location etc, some may want stamps and its really not a bad idea. I just had a risk assessment done, a plus was I didn't have shacks and have pre engineered buildings on main structures. It may even save issues with inspections to some extent.
Smoker
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I sketched up what I wanted and had an engineer go over the design, run the calcs and stamp it. Cost me $400. The trusses were stamped by an engineer at the truss company, included in the truss cost. City didn't question a single thing once they saw the stamps. I didn't go with a GC because all they do is give their buddy subs the work and mark it up before passing on the cost. I found and contracted all the subs myself for what work I didn't want to do (concrete, install trusses/roof). Saved a bunch of $, I would do it again in a heartbeat.