Help where to put the shop

[climb.on]

We are building a 2000sq/ft home this summer and 36"x48"(exact size TBD) shop on our 12 acre property in Minnesota. Now that we have the house plan and location pretty well set I need to dial in the shop location. Something like 36x48 or so. I can't put the shop any closer to the road and the access to the property has to be where it is shown (says the county...don't get me started).

Option 1. Keep the shop close to the house and maintain good sight lines from the house up the property to the north.

Option 2. Put shop a little further away from the house, but would block the views of the property.

Option 3. Would maintain decent sight lines from the house up the property to the north, but would have to extend the driveway even longer and would have to remove a lot of trees.

Do you guys like your shop close to the house? Does your WIFE like your shop close to the house?

 

[zoomzoomjeff]

How far away is option 1 from the house?

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[climb.on]

I didn't think to measure that when we were laying things out on at the site today. I'm guessing the 2 closest corners are about 50 feet apart. We did tlak about moving the house back about 10 feet though too.

 

[kelpaso1]

I don't know. I kinda like option 1 the best. Shop better hidden from the road and driveway, and close enough to the house that you can keep an eye on things.

Is that a drone picture? If it is can you take one from directly overhead of the house and from a little higher?

 

[tjdux]

I like option 1 the most. The other 2 require so much tree removal and I personally feel that's a huge part of the beauty of that property. And it is very nice looking peice of land btw.

If moving the house closer to the bottom or left of the photo or even some of both that may help but 50 ft from the house is probably prett good. Especially considering that side of the house appears to be garage anyways.

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[James-W]

I agree that option 1 is the one that I would pick as well. Without actually seeing the property, I think it is probably the best choice.

 

[larry_g]

Option 1. I find that I make a lot of trips to the shop. Further away would would be more walking, longer runs of facilities, etc. Where is the septic and well? If you want a bathroom in the shop then think about the waste line.

I don't have a sense of your property layout but think about getting vehicles into the rest of your property. Hopefully your house and lawn don't block access to the the rest of your land.

My shop is close to the house. I find that after a town run some things go to the shop and others to the house but can park in one spot to unload into both buildings.

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[jives]

This may be a silly question, but what is the shop for? Is this a hobby sanctuary, part of a business, for car storage? Of the 3 sites you sketched I agree that #1 seems the most logical, but it is dependent on the shop purpose. A woodworking haven may be better off deep in the 12 acres, surrounded by the pines and the loons on the lake.

 

[sberry]

Make shop 4 ft wider.

 

[Mike.VA]

A few things to consider:
When your knee deep in your projects and the summer is at it's hottest, with doors wide open and your favorite jams are at their highest,,, what will the wife say when her girl friends have to drive by your garage to go see her?

or

When she looks out the front door or front window and all she see's is you under your best car working instead of the open woods view ?

If both of these are ok, then I would pick # 1 and enjoy being in front. Go for it.

 

[Falcon67]

>Option 1. I find that I make a lot of trips to the shop.

Ours is about 25' from the back door. In and out all the time. It's also a giant dog house thanks to a dog door in the man door that faces the house, inside the fenced yard.

As I usually recommend - go get a bundle of grade stakes and about 1000' of nylon string or some such. Stake it out - house and shop. Put stakes to mark doors, paths, other access, things. Walk it in real time on real ground, that will really light up what works and what doesn't.

We have a new construction manager at the university. There is talk of a new health-science build. He set out the proposed footprint for the building on the intermural field and had the faculty, staff, etc for that department come out and walk it so they would have a idea of what it might be in real life.

We are designing a new data center. I'm encouraging our group to get a few rolls of blue painters tape and go "Les Nessman" the layout to be sure it will work like it seems to on paper.

 

[climb.on]

Is that a drone picture? If it is can you take one from directly overhead of the house and from a little higher?

Here is a drone video of the property. You can see the footprint of the house, but I don't have the shop spaces shown on this video. Also the driveway you see in this video is not where the driveway will be. The county is forcing me to move it north directly across from my neighbors driveway

I also attached another site planning overhead picture I used from Google.

I like option 1 the most. The other 2 require so much tree removal and I personally feel that's a huge part of the beauty of that property. And it is very nice looking piece of land btw.

If moving the house closer to the bottom or left of the photo or even some of both that may help but 50 ft from the house is probably prett good. Especially considering that side of the house appears to be garage anyways.

Thank you! Option 2 really wouldn't take out many trees. It's not clear from the first picture I posted, but there is a clearing there.

This may be a silly question, but what is the shop for? Is this a hobby sanctuary, part of a business, for car storage? Of the 3 sites you sketched I agree that #1 seems the most logical, but it is dependent on the shop purpose. A woodworking haven may be better off deep in the 12 acres, surrounded by the pines and the loons on the lake.

Mostly for woodworking I'd say. However, I am easily distracted and get off into just about anything that peaks my interest at a given time. Pinball machines, old woodworking equipment restoration, welding, would love to restore a muscle car someday....

Make shop 4 ft wider.

No matter what size I say, this will be true.

I don't know. I kinda like option 1 the best. Shop better hidden from the road and driveway, and close enough to the house that you can keep an eye on things.

Is that a drone picture? If it is can you take one from directly overhead of the house and from a little higher?

I like option 1 the most. The other 2 require so much tree removal and I personally feel that's a huge part of the beauty of that property. And it is very nice looking peice of land btw.

If moving the house closer to the bottom or left of the photo or even some of both that may help but 50 ft from the house is probably prett good. Especially considering that side of the house appears to be garage anyways.

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This may be a silly question, but what is the shop for? Is this a hobby sanctuary, part of a business, for car storage? Of the 3 sites you sketched I agree that #1 seems the most logical, but it is dependent on the shop purpose. A woodworking haven may be better off deep in the 12 acres, surrounded by the pines and the loons on the lake.

Make shop 4 ft wider.

A few things to consider:
When your knee deep in your projects and the summer is at it's hottest, with doors wide open and your favorite jams are at their highest,,, what will the wife say when her girl friends have to drive by your garage to go see her?

or

When she looks out the front door or front window and all she see's is you under your best car working instead of the open woods view ?

If both of these are ok, then I would pick # 1 and enjoy being in front. Go for it.

Haha - love it! She will say to her girlfirends "Don't you wish you had a man like that!" Maybe

The location of #1 will be the least obstructive of the views. I know my wife and daughter want a couple ponies and they would pasture to the north. Also another reason not to put my shop at #2 that might need to be a location for a stable at some point. I really don't want animals, but they put up with so much of my ****, collecting, projects, etc. I don't know how I can say no to them.

 

[climb.on]

>Option 1. I find that I make a lot of trips to the shop.

Ours is about 25' from the back door. In and out all the time. It's also a giant dog house thanks to a dog door in the man door that faces the house, inside the fenced yard.

As I usually recommend - go get a bundle of grade stakes and about 1000' of nylon string or some such. Stake it out - house and shop. Put stakes to mark doors, paths, other access, things. Walk it in real time on real ground, that will really light up what works and what doesn't.

We have a new construction manager at the university. There is talk of a new health-science build. He set out the proposed footprint for the building on the intermural field and had the faculty, staff, etc for that department come out and walk it so they would have a idea of what it might be in real life.

We are designing a new data center. I'm encouraging our group to get a few rolls of blue painters tape and go "Les Nessman" the layout to be sure it will work like it seems to on paper.

Total agree with the staking. The lines in the picture are just highlighting what is actually staked on the ground. It is super helpful. I bought a drone too and it has been incredibly useful too.

 

[Mike.VA]

Nice lot.
I think you nailed the house location on the lot. Good job. The spot for your shop is still the #1 location in my opinion.

I keep thinking about the "warm breeze and gently rain" in late January up in Minnesota and quickly think the shop should be closer to the house the better.

 

[climb.on]

Here's all the videos and documents again in one place.

This YouTube Video starts near the north end of the property and flies to the south.

This You Tube Video circles around the footprint of where the house will go. (same one as I linked in an earlier post)

You can see the footprint of the house, but I don't have the shop spaces shown on this video. Also the driveway you see in this video is not where the driveway will be. The county is forcing me to move it north directly across from my neighbors driveway.

 

[BDT/NWMN]

#1 is #1