To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

Help with an electric heater?

Ultradog MN

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 20, 2024
Messages
799
Location
Twin Cities
I have a Marley portable electric heater that I use to heat my little shop office.
I have it wired to its own 220V 20A breaker.
It heats great but the thermostat/switch on it is not working properly anymore - have to manually turn it on/off.
Marley is still in business so I contacted them about a new switch. They want $125 +tax/ship for a new one.
I want to install a 220v relay and 24v transformer and use a remote thermostat.
I'd guess they use something like this for residential air conditioners.
Do they make a one piece 220V relay + 24V transformer unit?
Not sure what to search for...
Could someone provide a link - Amazon, Ebay, other? to a part (or parts) like that.
I would put it in its own enclosure and just wire my heater into that.
Sorry for so long. Thanks for any help.
 

Attachments

  • 11202574842.jpg
    11202574842.jpg
    875.7 KB · Views: 26
  • 11202584451.jpg
    11202584451.jpg
    1.2 MB · Views: 26
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

ipgenie

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 29, 2020
Messages
562
Location
Idaho
I'd also recommend a line voltage thermostat. You can get smart ones too if you want to control it remotely or program a schedule. Your power company may even have incentives available that would pay for the thermostat.
Put it on the back as suggested or locate it near the service panel to minimize wiring.

A contactor or relay and 24v thermostat will work too. Would be better if you want the thermostat further away because you would run low voltage wire to that location. Just more parts. Look for 24v coil and 240v 30a rating. Something like this should work.

 
OP
U

Ultradog MN

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 20, 2024
Messages
799
Location
Twin Cities
I'd also recommend a line voltage thermostat. You can get smart ones too if you want to control it remotely or program a schedule. Your power company may even have incentives available that would pay for the thermostat.
Put it on the back as suggested or locate it near the service panel to minimize wiring.

A contactor or relay and 24v thermostat will work too. Would be better if you want the thermostat further away because you would run low voltage wire to that location. Just more parts. Look for 24v coil and 240v 30a rating. Something like this should work.


I think? this is what I would like.
Want to have the thermostat mounted remotely.
Here are a couple of photos of what I have.
Line comes out of the panel and goes thru the wall into my office. Inside the office is an outlet for the heater cord. I would like to install the device you linked to in an enclosure between the panel and wall and leave the outlet as is.
 

Attachments

  • 12202593214.jpg
    12202593214.jpg
    605.7 KB · Views: 22
  • 1220259321.jpg
    1220259321.jpg
    636.6 KB · Views: 21

nadogail

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 23, 2009
Messages
32,059
Location
Coronado, CA
I powered my heater control relay with a 24 volt "Wall Wart" power transformer salvage from a discarded Lawn Sprinkler Control.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!

ipgenie

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 29, 2020
Messages
562
Location
Idaho
I think? this is what I would like.
Want to have the thermostat mounted remotely.
Here are a couple of photos of what I have.
Line comes out of the panel and goes thru the wall into my office. Inside the office is an outlet for the heater cord. I would like to install the device you linked to in an enclosure between the panel and wall and leave the outlet as is.


If you want to keep it simple and low cost, use a second single gang box next to your existing outlet and put this thermostat on it. Wire it to switch the outlet off and on.

 

PWC Repair

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 27, 2012
Messages
3,194
Location
Arkansas
OK, you can run L1 and L2 into a contactor, like this https://www.amazon.com/Conditioner-...-Definite/dp/B08T9WBLXB/?tag=atomicindus08-20

You can also tap off into a low voltage transformer like this....https://www.amazon.com/Transformer%EF%BC%8C-Secondary-Isolation-Transformers%EF%BC%8C24V-Transformer/dp/B0B8Z2XV7V/ref=sr_1_1?crid=X8984NAPV9CX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pGVzimVcQrEjkbrGtivjJDojALTEUeb8rR8t7QMkqp9x7kh04O2-v_oDcC-Z8kafAJ65iR4C0EnQrZ9nto9-VYi5K6YCvqJI-0Vc3EgcpprDj6rPUMWn484-Ubf4xinHNlXqClNEHl4adg2ijRxP0spzEpBTm1pBP0sQ8czv81yJmf19ZMT9nq2YB2sDKDfx3lL688Yiwo_m8qBjXK2lfpCceqFutr8FZvMNxy8AirHUZ9EVNNo5LkvGpRLWMLAsqlVdqvAASbCtPmWFube_gAonyhBUlDzttzWSy5cYtMqqjWBtdFhbvp4eFko8cM10TxJNJobu2FotWprR0s6TAiS0onWI4On8hJtyYfcqdG1_Q7VMJ3I5x4hBYfAxMU4srOohZnm0CFpUtan5SedVgqsGAdsLI2rR7-QE6-BefFN5DaDIjD0R4sllyS8v_dYr.5bn5lWESN2Fj2RysuUf5wxNKInVpKj_s1lik0MfdShQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=220+24+transformer&qid=1739064433&sprefix=220+24+transformer%2Caps%2C930&sr=8-1

Then out of the transformer you will have the required 24v you need to power pretty much any type of thermostat you want. You just need some low voltage control wire from the transformer to the T-stat.....then the t-stat back to the coil on the contactor. Call for heat powers the coil which makes the contactor switch and allows the voltage to continue on it's path to he heater. And since the control wire can be had with multiple wires you only need to make one wire run. Those 2 parts are also found in pretty much ANY hvac scrap pile for free if they'll let you pilfer!
 

BillK

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 24, 2006
Messages
9,368
Location
Beautiful Southern Maryland
By the time you do all of that **** you will spend almost as much as fixing it correctly. Geeeze.

Or, take the switch out and see if there is a part number on it. You can probably get one from Mouser or Grainger for less than Marley wants.

I have the same heater and it has worked great for 25 years.
 

BillK

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 24, 2006
Messages
9,368
Location
Beautiful Southern Maryland
This is probably the correct replacement for your heater. Mine is a MUH35 and looks identical to yours. Double check the part number on the switch. They are also on Amazon etc


This is the heater I have:
 

no704

Well-known member
Joined
Apr 27, 2016
Messages
5,233
I’ve used Inkbird PID controllers for many things. Comes with a 40A ssr. I have one running a pottery kiln. Cost is like $45.
 
To avoid these ads, REGISTER NOW!
Top Bottom