Help With Garage Meausurements

[Pugly]

I need some help with some Garage (shop) dimensions for a garage that I want to build behind my home under construction. I am in an Equestrian (Horse) Community on almost three acres. They say they allow storage buildings, (they are everywhere) even though the Homeowners Association says they have to look like a Barn. ?

Back to the shop. I have got Seven collector cars right now, a 24' trailer that's about 29' overall, some dirt bikes and four wheelers and another small utility trailer. I would like enough room to stuff all this **** in there and still have enough room to move around and get some of the cars in and out and also build a little office and restroom facility.

The HOA says my trailer has to stay inside unless it looks like a horse trailer.

I was at first thinking of going with a 50'x75' building but I thinks that may just be to big.

Also I want to install a lift or two, for maintenance and for stacking a couple of cars....

So my ?'s are:

How big do you guys think I need to go on my building?

And If I plan on putting lifts in, How thick do you think I need the concrete?

I own an auto shop and watched them pour the slab for it with lots of cross beams and piers, but my construction guy says for this that is overdoing it and I could just pour a 5" slab with a perimeter and I would be fine.

Thanks In Advance for Y'alls help.

 

[DIC]

At least 40x70 for all that stuff to fit...without much shop area.......

 

[sberry]

Wider is better, you already stated 50 which isn't any too big, go to 60, gives enough to drive down the center, not sure what looking like a barn means, the color and some trim? My storage is 60 with 20 ft lean to, again I might have went to 75 and 25 but the 60 wide is passable. I like angle parking.
Shop in seperate building.

 

[twostory]

I have a 5 inch slab, 1/2 inch rebar grid (2 ft on center), 4,000psi concrete. I also have a 4 inch gravel base (vibrated to lock the #57 rock).

My four post lift works just fine, i.e. no damage to the slab. Note: I have moved the four post to a few different locations.

 

[rodnok1]

I have a 40x60 and no way could I get all that stuff in mine. I'd go 60x80...

 

[Pugly]

No way they are letting me go 4800sq ft.

Sberry, That building seems huge. What size is the interior dimensions?

 

[Brad1234]

I'd go 5-6" on the floor & a far as the building size goes it can never be too big.

 

[Red05GT]

The nice thing about the center door layout with parking on both sides is you can use
the center for the trailer and tow rig. also someone showed ther building on here with
a higher center truss framed section with a rafter roof sloping off each side. This gives
a nice barn look exterior. It's not that big a jump from the 3750 sf you mentioned to
4800 sf. Take some graph paper and start doodling. Make a scale paper template for
each vehicle, toy, etc. and place and move them around to see how the space works
and how fast it fills up.

 

[sberry]

The main part of it is 60x100 with a 20x100 lean to. I have since built some heavy shelves in it. I do have a back door but don't use it. There is a framed opening for another door on the left and a walk door on the right, I didn't have another door so I sheeted over it and don't really need it anyway. One of these days I will find a big door for the front and install the walk but there is only about 2 days a year where it would matter much, its actually kind of handy the way it is, I have a motion light setup, can park without fiddling with switches. Its strictly storage and parking lot. I have a similar building for shop.

 

[nate379]

My Dad has a 45x75 building and it would fit 7 cars and a trailer plus room to work. It has 5 bays (15x45). There are no walls in the middle, but posts to hold up the roof. Each bay can fit 2 normal length cars with room in front or back for smaller stuff (ATVs, snowmobiles, lawn mowers, etc) and enough room on each side to open the doors wide open without hitting anything.

If you are thinking of have a decent size workshop, I would say 30x40 JUST for the workshop, so 60x75 or 80 would be a better size. Though you say you already have a shop, so just having an empty 15x45 bay for oil changes and what not may be just fine.

 

[ket-tek]

I was at first thinking of going with a 50'x75' building but I thinks that may just be to big.

to big? that's not really possible..

Your talking 2 trailers, 7 cars, 2 lifts, dirt bikes, atv's, office, bathroom, and hopefully some workbench/shop area too? I wouldn't go any smaller than your proposing.. I would go as big as you can afford.

I drew and re-drew mine to scale over and over with the sizes of the stuff going in it, and some how it always looks like plenty of room on paper, but doesn't seem nearly as roomy once it was all done with everything in place.

 

[BPJOOP93]

Never enough room. go as big as you can, you wont regrett it.

 

[sberry]

There is no substitute for sq ft. A lot of the fixed cost is inherent, adding some width doesn't add substantial cost, the unit price goes down due to some economies of scale. Generally out to about 80 ft wide. I think trusses at about 60 or 70 are about as cheap as you can get?

 

[GarageEnvy]

I think you might have answered one of your own questions. If they won't let you build 4800 sf then how big will they let you build? That's the right size. As others have said (and I have found out) a lot of the costs are fixed or increase nominally with the size of the building. In my case, the bank and the property line determined the size of my garage.

 

[Pugly]

Well It looks like 50'x64' is my measurement. Determined by my property line, my hoa and then my checkbook.
Some Pictures:

It's 50 across the front (wide) and 64' long.

 

[5thRail]

Who made/built it, how long did it take to get it put up, and where are you located?

What are your plans for finishing the interior - lights, heat/ac, etc?

I ask because I'm about to get my lot surveyed so I can build something similar - and haven't decided whether to stick build or go with a "kit", Morton or whatever.

 

[NUTTSGT]

An Equestrian HOA ?

Are the cross buck doors all they need to look like a barn?

 

[Pugly]

Sorry for the delays in getting back to questions, I am up to my neck in busyness with the house barn and work.

I bought the Barn from Rhino Buildings, turns out they are a wholesaler for a bunch of metal building suppliers and can sell it to you cheaper than the suppliers will.

My building turned out to be made by Shulte Building Systems from out it Waller Texas http://www.sbslp.com/ .

The HOA required the 4 on 12 roof pitch, front slider doors, the cross buck on the doors and on the sides trim to make it look like they are windows, and a pesky 4' square Cupola. Weather Vane Optional.


What I learned........Shop everything. I started off thinking it would be best to get it all from one place at one price. Found out by accident that I was wrong. The sliding door no one sells, you have to build it yourself, Make sure the building supplier includes the metal for the door openings, they like to leave them out of the order.

I had to have that Cupola, they ranged from 1092.00-5000.00 for a 4' one. Got mine from Just Barns.

 

[Pugly]

Also It took the guys I hired about 8 days to get it assembled, but it was a rainy mess and they dealt with lots of mud after the rains stopped.
This is a picture of them trying to unload it.

I had to put down a lime and gravel driveway just so they could get back there.

I want to finish out by adding lights, lifts in one corner as a "shop" area and then in the front corner build a "boys" club for football viewing and poker nights.

I subscribed to my own thread so I can keep up with responses....