Help with some sockets

Rosso · Dec 30, 2015

Hi,

I'm needing some help tracking down some sockets I'm after.

I already have versions of these but I'm replacing the China **** with US/Euro stuff etc. These are the last ones i need to be China free.

I need 14/17/19mm Hex bit sockets. Impact grade with an overall length less than 88mm

Snap on don't make them, they do make chrome non impact ones but they are too long.

Any ideas on a US brand etc ?

I also need an 8 and 10 mm deep 1/4 socket for glow plugs that has a deep internal broach for fitting over plugs.

Snap on deep sockets don't have a deep enough internal broach to fit.

Thanks

rhandwor · Dec 30, 2015

Look at Hazet 985-14,985-17,985-19

dutchgray · Dec 30, 2015

Koken 13105-11(mm)
3/8" drive, replaceable bit style.
They do one piece styles as well, also 1/2 drive.

Rosso · Dec 30, 2015

Thanks for the info, i'm not sure the Hazet stuff is impact grade ?

Koken - never heard of them, they seem to be made in Japan ?

dutchgray · Dec 30, 2015

Koken is top stuff, they just do sockets and drive tools and make pretty much everything you could want. Yes they are Japanese.

PureLeaf · Dec 30, 2015

Wright does them too, this was just posted from someone that bought them in the amazon thread

anndel · Dec 30, 2015

Ko-Ken = Made in Japan
Hazet = Made in Germany

All excellent stuff

Rosso · Dec 30, 2015

The wright stuff looks very good, impact and short enough.

Any links ? I can't for the life of me find anything other than 3/4 drive stuff

dutchgray · Dec 30, 2015

Wright is not a sensible choice for the UK, I have some but I import it, there is one dealer that I could find but pricing is so high you just wouldn't go there.
Koken is reasonable here, the Euro brands usually are as well.

454ragtop · Dec 30, 2015

As far as a 10 MM 1/4 dr deep socket, my older USA made Craftsman is broached almost to the drive end. Don't know about the 8MM, my 1/4 dr deep socket is an SK, and is only broached about 3/8" deep.
HTH, Jim

PureLeaf · Dec 30, 2015

dutchgray said:
Wright is not a sensible choice for the UK, I have some but I import it, there is one dealer that I could find but pricing is so high you just wouldn't go there.
Koken is reasonable here, the Euro brands usually are as well.

Agreed, didn't realize you were in the UK. Wright are great here in the US, and very easy to warranty if you ever need, but from the UK, I can see that being a nightmare. They're available on amazon.com for the US market.

Rosso · Dec 30, 2015

Scratch that Wright only makes up to 17mm in 1/2 drive

Rosso · Dec 30, 2015

Yeah scratch the wright stuff too hard to get here.

rlitman · Dec 30, 2015

FYI, the Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Pro set is Taiwan, not China, and not actually ****. Though I'm not sure if it fits your length requirements:
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-pc-12-in-drive-metric-impact-hex-socket-set-67895.html

Neiko also makes a set in Taiwan:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JOT2TM/?tag=atomicindus08-20
The comments on Amazon say they are under 76mm long.

davethorik · Dec 30, 2015

I was just looking up a set of 1/2 metric hex bit sockets myself, although chrome. For other US options I'd look at Proto or SK, if money wasn't tight from the holidays I'd be buying the SK set. The SK sets I looked at included 3/4 and 19, which the Wright sets don't. Wright makes nice tools but their socket selection isn't the best sometimes

jallyn · Dec 30, 2015

rlitman said:
FYI, the Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Pro set is Taiwan, not China, and not actually ****. Though I'm not sure if it fits your length requirements:
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-pc-12-in-drive-metric-impact-hex-socket-set-67895.html

Neiko also makes a set in Taiwan:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JOT2TM/?tag=atomicindus08-20
The comments on Amazon say they are under 76mm long.

+1. Harbor Freight Pittsburgh Pro line is made in Taiwan and a great value. The Neiko set also looks worth the price.

dutchgray · Dec 30, 2015

No HF in the UK, many of their products are probably available under other brands, but they won't be as cheap.

Rosso · Dec 30, 2015

yeah, we don't have the same selection as the states.

So my options so far are the Hazet or Koken.

I'm leaning toward the Koken, the Hazet's don't appear to be impact rated.

I'd still prefer a US or Euro made option.

anndel · Dec 30, 2015

What about Bahco? They're Snap On's wholly own subsidiary in Europe based in Sweden.

Rosso · Dec 30, 2015

It would appear Bahco don't make them.

bob15 · Dec 30, 2015

Have you looked at Proto & Blackhawk? Proto sockets are also very deep broached.

jensputzier · Dec 31, 2015

Yes, the Hazet are not for impact use.

Rosso · Dec 31, 2015

jensputzier said:
Yes, the Hazet are not for impact use.

Thanks for the clarification.

Trouble with Proto etc is getting them outside the USA.

Rosso · Dec 31, 2015

Facom, anyone know COO ?

http://catalogue.facom.com/en/categ...-impact-bits-for-hexagon-socket-heads/nshm-19

bob15 · Dec 31, 2015

Rosso said:
Trouble with Proto etc is getting them outside the USA.

Grainger, who is world-wide, sells Proto. Does Zoro ship to the UK?

http://www.grainger.com/content/worldwide-europe

http://www.cdsconsultants.co.uk/index.html

https://www.raptorsupplies.com/

Rosso · Dec 31, 2015

Warranty is an issue again though with Proto etc. It'll be a pain having to post something back etc.

Realistically my options are the likes of Mac etc - brands that are readily available outside the states.

For the hex impacts koken seems my only option thus far. I like the Facom ones but i suspect they will be china made.

dutchgray · Dec 31, 2015

Just been looking and found this.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006JVU1ZI/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Yes its amazon.com so you can forgot the warranty but you could get that set, for £33 delivered tax paid if you can wait a couple weeks.
They are Taiwan made but have a great reputation here.
Replacement singles are cheap enough if you want to go that way.

bob15 · Dec 31, 2015

Rosso said:
Warranty is an issue again though with Proto etc. It'll be a pain having to post something back etc.

Realistically my options are the likes of Mac etc - brands that are readily available outside the states.

For the hex impacts koken seems my only option thus far. I like the Facom ones but i suspect they will be china made.

Have you tried these people (not sure if you are close or not)? Look at their line card for compnies they deal with (including Facom)....

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=services/local-branch

Most large companies, such as Proto have worldwide branch locations and local distributors that handle warranties. I also wouldn't worry much about warranties. Tools don't fail that often unless abused.

As for Facom.......e-mail them and ask.

rice rocket · Dec 31, 2015

Rosso said:
yeah, we don't have the same selection as the states.

So my options so far are the Hazet or Koken.

I'm leaning toward the Koken, the Hazet's don't appear to be impact rated.

I'd still prefer a US or Euro made option.

Koken makes all of Beta's impact sockets. So just buy them through Beta if you want to feel better about it. :willy_nil

http://www.beta-tools.com/catalog/a...ang_en/__catlang_en/__catalog_beta/__filters_

Rosso · Dec 31, 2015

I have emailed Facom. Not had a response yet.

Are you sure koken makes beta stuff ?

That beta stuff looks identical to the made in China hex bit sockets and nothing like Koken's stuff.

dutchgray · Dec 31, 2015

Koken makes much of Beta's top of the range items, but exactly what is probably impossible to find out.

rice rocket · Dec 31, 2015

Rosso said:
I have emailed Facom. Not had a response yet.

Are you sure koken makes beta stuff ?

That beta stuff looks identical to the made in China hex bit sockets and nothing like Koken's stuff.

http://www.koken-tool.co.jp/catalog/KOKEN_201304ENGRFR_IMPACT.pdf

Rosso · Jan 17, 2016

Just to follow up on this.

Facom stuff was made in Taiwan.

I ended up getting Koken sockets, a new tool truck showed up at work and is full to the brim with Koken stuff !!

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