help!!!

[msportbiker6666]

how do I stand this back up?

 

[usmc_noma]

Damn. What the hell happened?
And to answer your question, how much beer do you have? That's going to take a lot of friends.

 

[Devildogs]

Looks like the casters were sitting on lumber. The box moved and slipped off its precarious perch. Is that a beam directly above the box? Come along?

 

[kamesama980]

Or the lumber is there to get it as far as it is without the box sliding back.

+1 for more lumber of various appropriate sizes and a come-along, block and tackle, winch, several friends, etc

 

[msportbiker6666]

2x was to keep wheels footed and im using beam and laser measuring for any deflection after every crank of come along. I wish I could say I even had a stupid excuse like beer. Driving anD using a cell phone Doesn't appear to be the only Dangerous thing these Days, when standing in front of your toolbox always pay attention. now I just had an idea maybe I can create some kind of anchor similiar to earthquake code anchors... im up to about 45 deg. this ***** more than the time I nailed my foot to a deck.

 

[msportbiker6666]

The metal floor anchor just broke. i have no idea what to do now. if anyone in nw new jersey wants give me a hand please pm me.

 

[motormitch]

On the drawers that are left a bit open, did you remove as many of the tools as you could to reduce the top end weight? At the point you are, it would seen that you are going to need to pull more directly backward that the upper beam is going to allow. Could you find a couple of studs in the back wall to screw in something to give you an anchor to pull back with? I worry just a big eye bolt might just pull out, but something like a plate with several screws.

 

[msportbiker6666]

 

[motormitch]

Just saw you last post. Dude, that *****. I am sorry to see that. I'm in Texas, but surely some of our GJ brothers will step up to a friend in need.

If you have to go it alone. I still think your approach has merit. Do you have access to a hammer drill and a big anchor bolt like we used to blot down our lifts? It looks like you could drill in and mount a better anchor bolt on the floor and start over.

 

[msportbiker6666]

im so sick to my stomach. I beg everone of you to go and try and anchor your box. I can only imagine what the front is going to look like. i am going to rent a bobcat with forks.

 

[Perrorojo]

Can you put an anchor in the wall behind the box, just above where the top of the box used to set?

 

[Perrorojo]

im so sick to my stomach. I beg everone of you to go and try and anchor your box. I can only imagine what the front is going to look like. i am going to rent a bobcat with forks.

Wrap the ends of the forks in Duct Tape so you don't scratch the box.

 

[msportbiker6666]

after what it did to floor anchor, wall anchor will probably fail too.
i was thinking to use forks to lift from above, i cant see how to slide forks under drawers. im going to see Korn and Zombie in concert tonite. I was supposed to be the designated driver. passing that torch to my friend!

 

[msportbiker6666]

my 2 drawer office credenza has a feature that will not let both drawers be opened at the same time. why cant they do this on toolboxes? im not trying to pass the blame, i take full credit for this.

 

[Nick Danger]

Wow! I'm glad nobody got hurt.

 

[srmofo]

I know it doesn't help now, but both of my large boxes at work have plywood under the front wheels so the drawers close naturally.

I would probably try an engine hoist with lifting straps all the way around it. If you go the forklift route wrap them in blankets, carpet scraps, etc

 

[e30bradley]

I'll help, I don't have a license though so I'm not sure how id get there.

 

[Richard Cranium]

a tow truck or an fork lift, the newer boxes now has the one drawer at a time latch in them. At least that is what I am told, my equipto box does not have it, so I try to be so very careful not to open more than one drawer at a time... Not the first time that I have seen this, so don't feel like the lone ranger.... Good luck...Rich...

 

[Fueler]

I think you are on the right track with your strap pulling it up. Might have to get a second one repositioned at some point as you will reach a max on the first strap. Think like an Egyptian Pyramid builder. Leverage is everything.
You will probably have this done before this thread is.
Obviously empty everything you can as you go.

 

[Jagmandave]

Go rent an engine hoist? You should be able to strap it and tip it up with one of them....

 

[Paul1956]

my 2 drawer office credenza has a feature that will not let both drawers be opened at the same time. why cant they do this on toolboxes? im not trying to pass the blame, i take full credit for this.

In that case, lift the cabinet only... then start removing the tools
from the drawers... one drawer at a time.

When you set back up, incline the cabinet so the drawers will close
naturally due to gravity.

 

[signcrafter]

I'm not sure where you are in NJ but give this GJ member a call, http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/member.php?u=49683. NJHandyGuy is a good guy and if you guys are close I'm sure he would come help you out for a few bucks. He's going through some tough times trying to find work so a few bucks could help him out and get your box back upright. He also has towing experience so should be able to come up with a way to get that box upright and probably cheaper then renting a bobcat.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

If you don't have an engine lift or suitable jack:
1. set it back down.
2. Roll it on it's side
3. Remove tools
4. Stand it back up.
5. Anchor it to the wall. (if you tilt it back a little the drawers won't slide open).
6. Reorganize tools (heavy drawers at the bottom)

Depending on where you are at I might be willing to get that mess out of your way.

 

[msportbiker6666]

If you don't have an engine lift or suitable jack:
1. set it back down.
2. Roll it on it's side
3. Remove tools
4. Stand it back up.
5. Anchor it to the wall. (if you tilt it back a little the drawers won't slide open).
6. Reorganize tools (heavy drawers at the bottom)

Depending on where you are at I might be willing to get that mess out of your way.

roll it on its side? and as far as removing tools, that is easier said then done. trust me. its a matco 5s model 5225rx. not sure of empty weight, my guess is 700-900. plus 400-500 lbs for tools. I thought about the engine hoist also but the problem is the boom end does not extend past wheels. just got back from rental lot, and bobcat s175 lift limit is 1400. I really don't want to tilt it back up. id rather use forks to hang it, then lift it high enough to lower the backside down.

 

[Punchwood]

Lay it back down on the face but block the corners up from the floor. Use that binder strap to go around the box so it'll keep the drawers from emptying themselves any further.

Get some chokers to go around the box the same way as the binder, and rig up a come a long to a clamp or something on that beam above the box and stand it back up.

 

[kerrynzl]

how do I stand this back up?

Can you prop up the 2 front corners safely with some timber [ 2 x4's ], so you can remove the strap.

Then one at a time remove the drawers from the roller sliders.[starting from the top ]

It will slowly get lighter as you do it, but the Top will be the most difficult because tools would be jammed in behind.

 

[ears]

You could anchor a 2x to the floor and use it to brace a bottle jack. Lift a little brace it and repeat.

 

[AnEv942]

Dang-First thing Id do is cut up some better blockage for the rear with board across incase box shifts side to side.-Second is I might screw a post to beam. It appears the strap went around face of box then under to floor anchor. I cant see this working with the weight, using strap as a lever-using force of strap straightening out instead of pulling. At least how I'm seeing, once it reaches a point force on strap (or anchor) increases, movement of box decreases- quickly taking everything to limit .

With what you have- I'd wrap the strap around front of box as you had done but continue to wrap the box (don't anchor the strap to floor or back to the strap itself). , should wrap the box. You may need another strap to keep the lifting strap from slipping. All force would be applied at front corner, once it reaches a point I would assume the bottom front may slide outward righting itself. Thats a lot of weight. But hopefully youve got it up by the time responces read.
Only other thing I can think of is addtional strap wound in opposite directon pulling toward wall simutaneoulsy-but Im unsure if I want that load on studs-all else could weld on some lifting lugs. Due to value of box ins 'might' help, DA or not still an accident.
Mark

 

[CTester]

roll it on its side? and as far as removing tools, that is easier said then done. trust me. its a matco 5s model 5225rx. not sure of empty weight, my guess is 700-900. plus 400-500 lbs for tools. I thought about the engine hoist also but the problem is the boom end does not extend past wheels. just got back from rental lot, and bobcat s175 lift limit is 1400. I really don't want to tilt it back up. id rather use forks to hang it, then lift it high enough to lower the backside down.

Wow, it's that heavy empty! I suppose you have nothing above to strap a chain fall to? You have finished ceilings or rafters? Rafters can be braced from the floor up if need be, - to support that much lifting weight.

Is it getting bent up at all?

 

[kluckfab]

Skid steer or engine host with straps, another reason why I like built ins, let us know what happens.

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[JamieK]

Bite the bullet and call a reputable towing service. If you have room to get a Bobcat in there, then a tow truck can back in and extend the boom over the tool box. A good wrecker driver should have no problem uprighting that box and will have all the equipment and straps to do it. They flip cars over with no problems and from worse predicaments. May can even be claimed under towing insurance.

 

[Vegaman_Dan]

Engine hoist only runs $200 for a decent one and you probably will have a use for it at other times as well.

Running several ratchet straps around vertically will keep all those drawers in place as you move it. I'd be tempted to put in a couple of 2x4's vertically as well as insurance.

Doable if approached slowly with a lift. Your goal is to lift the entire box, not just tipping it. Get it in the air, then you can start dropping it back into place while using external tethers or straps to tug it more vertical as you lower it.

It's going to be a challenge.

 

[Devildogs]

Dint realize you had the strap anchored to the floor. Wrap one strap around each castor at the front of the box. That beam should be able t lift the box but if it sags just prop it up with 4x. I take ityour using ome sort of winch to lift.

 

[Garage Coffee Roaster]

Another option is to hire a rigger. They have the equipment and labor necessary to do it safely.

Rough guess on price would be $200-400


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[msportbiker6666]

Done for tonite. thanks for all the help and ideas I'll include some pics of what I've done. I'd like to start a new thread documenting this whole affair so people can learn from it if they ever run into it

 

[CTester]

Mann, -what a predicament. Could have been much worse tho. Might be easier tipping it up without the casters on. Stuff a strap under it so when it's upright you can re-hook, lift it straight up to block it up in order to reinstall the casters.

 

[kluckfab]

Oh man good to see, so what is the damage to your box?

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[BearCuda]

I think you should have just given a few bucks to a couple power lifters from your local gym. Quick and easy.

 

[Micscience]

How heavy is that thing? couldn't two people tip it back over?

 

[NUTTSGT]

How heavy is that thing? couldn't two people tip it back over?

He mentioned it back in post #24. If his estimate is correct, I doubt two people are going to upright it.

its a matco 5s model 5225rx. not sure of empty weight, my guess is 700-900. plus 400-500 lbs for tools.