Here we go again..... A New Accessory Building

[deminimis]

Currently designing an accessory structure (stickbuilt garage remodel really) with an odd foot print (34(w) x 44(L). Footprint is due to site and other constraints. Current footprint is 24x26. At least we won't have to pour as much concrete. 16x7 double garage door (existing, but must be relocated) and a 14x14 for bigger items. Settled on stick built and single slope to get the height we need and desired pitch. Two current walls will remain (and modified). I'm going to have to rent my least favorite tool to address the remaining stem wall. With a 12' short wall (up hill side), the max height complies with the 24' height limit even with 2' eaves and overhangs. 4:12. However, that tall wall will be as big as a drive-in movie screen (okay, not really...but damn). A single slope (shed roof) is something of an oddity, but for us, it works with the house on the property (70's modern house design). Fibercement siding, architectural shingles and color matching the house. Not 100% ideal as views from the bedrooms will be lost. But, who stands there in their underwear staring out the bedroom window for any length of time anyway? Plenty of views from the main living areas of the house as well as decks. Anyway, not a common design, but I think this is going to work. I'm a bit worried it may be rather overwhelming as the height will be 8' higher than the current garage peak. However, I can soften the impact with shrubs, trees or whatever. I did consider a asymmetric roof to knock off a few feet of height and to lower the tall wall a bit (mostly single slope until it was centered above the 14x14 door, then it would slope down the remaining 8' of the run (same pitch)). Added cost and loss of storage space makes the idea a lot less likely. Although, it would match the existing asym roof entryway of the house.... Maybe.... Possibly....

You may ask yourself, who the hell needs a 14x14 door? Well, me (pic the shortcomings of our 30x50 pole... I had to dig trenches for the trailer wheels to get the boat's folded up amas under the header).

Rough overlay of the new footprint.

I guess I'll follow up once approved (six months away if lucky) and we start the build.

 

[nadogail]

Good Luck getting the approvals.

 

[Hellpig]

But, who stands there in their underwear staring out the bedroom window for any length of time anyway?

This guy does!

Good luck.with permitting, hope it goes fast!

 

[mike93lx]

This guy does!

Good luck.with permitting, hope it goes fast!

You guys wear underwear for that? Huh, interesting idea.

Good luck OP. Please share the build when it happens

 

[billconner]

How do you frame a 24' tall stick framed wall? Clearly requires professional engineering. Bracing for that sucker will be interesting.

 

[deminimis]

I lied (I'm back). Working on a bit of a re-work before submitting. Well, it's a lot of re-work, but we're liking what we are seeing. Split skillion roof. Also changing the footprint a bit to give it some depth upon approach. This also requires less teardrop shaped driveway rerouting. I'll have to go double check measurements at our pole barn, but IF we can get by with a 12x12 door instead of a 14x14 door, then I think we have an alt path to move forward. This mod gives us exactly 1500sqft (max allowed), lowers the overall height by 2' and greatly reduces the overwhelming feel of the structure. The storage loss is not quite a push, but I think it's manageable. Storage is a pretty big deal as we are combining houses to some degree (taking care of/ helping elderly parents). Anyway, a split skillion roof with different pitches (6:12 over the 7x16 door and 4:12 over the reduced 12x12 door). 6:12 low wall is 12' and 4:12 low wall is 12' in this scenerio. That's nearly a 3' height difference for the split skillion effect. Although the overall height is only coming down 1', we won't have the massive downslope wall with the drive-in movie screen feel. Plus, the 12x12 door section gains 2.5' in length (due to modifying the footprint). Added bonus in the form of less materials.

Okay, until we have something of value to report.....

Oh, the current garage gable roof trusses will get a new life on a different outbuilding on the property, hopefully, but that's for another day.

 

[Joemctag]

This guy does!

Good luck.with permitting, hope it goes fast!

In the new development next door: a lot of 2nd-storey master bedrooms have a row of small, square windows on one wall that are high but you can see out of . Wouldn’t need curtains. Or clothes on, I guess. Level site. Views aren’t to neighbors close by on the side.

 

[deminimis]

Full stop. The well done run dry. No, seriously, it did. We're down 660'. Another 300' would put us below sea level. (1976 405', 1990 660'). No big thing, right? Nope. We're in a "special district" due to old wells commingling. So, we can not just punch down 300' (or whatever is needed (probably considerably less)). Instead we have to "abandon" and drill anew. Also, we will be required to case 700' of the new well. When all said and done, the process is going to cost more than $100k...IF we could find someone to drill. We can't. They are all booked out until forever and some don't even want to mess with our area due to all the rules. Son of a biscuit. Option 2: Dump trailer (I need one anyway), 1000 gal (if a 14k trailer) or 1500 gal (if a 21k trailer) DOT approved water hauling tank, a couple huge storage tanks and so on. Hardly sustainable, but that might be our only option for a while. The new/remodeled accessory building just went from the front burner to an unlabled box at the bottom of the guest closet, next to the Xmas decorations.