HF Daytona jack difference between models help

[Razorhunter]

So I cant find much via Google so here goes.
Can anyone tell me what is the deal with the black 4 ton Daytona jack vs the yellow 3 ton Professional duty jack?
I think I saw more grease zerks on the yellow 3 ton and yes I saw a difference in the frame thickness/shape.
What I also saw was that the yellow 3 ton had a bigger cylinder in the back as compared to the black 3 ton jack.
(Only 1 of the two cylinders appears bigger) Seems to me the yellow should be the 4 ton instead of the black one!

One more thing, the black 3 ton I saw on display had some weld bead missing on the front leading edge 'axle' on the underside of it which concerned me. I assume this could possibly just have been a lemon. Has anyone else seen missed welds or unfinished welds on these jacks?
Has anyone here compared the two models above?

 

[Wamsutta]

Get the original Yellow Daytona. The others have a smaller saddle. Anything less than 5'' x 5'' is too small and can damage the underbody.

 

[Hiball]

The professional model (yellow) Daytona is the only one that carries Ucups on the pump pistons, the Pro model also has Magnets thrown randomly in the reservoir near the inlet so they can advertise that it has a high tech filtration system, not sure if the standard Daytona models have that feature. The Pro Model is the only one that carries a 3 year warranty, the non professional Daytona’s will carry a 90 day warranty and use Orings on the pumps but also give you more options in regards to reach/height and obviously color choice.

 

[Razorhunter]

Wamsutta: Damage the underbody???? Where are you jacking your vehicles up from? I jack from the frame or something solid. Couldn't possibly damage any of the above. What am I missing here?

 

[Razorhunter]

Hiball, thats good to know. Thanks.

The only reason I'm considering the 4 ton is because I'm jacking up 3/4 and 1 ton trucks and some have flatbeds on them that weigh 1000 lbs. I really need a jack that is rated over 3 tons. Sometimes I want to jack up both wheels at once. Much faster that way. A 3 ton will sometimes do it, but it struggles.

 

[Hiball]

The only reason I'm considering the 4 ton is because I'm jacking up 3/4 and 1 ton trucks and some have flatbeds on them that weigh 1000 lbs. I really need a jack that is rated over 3 tons. Sometimes I want to jack up both wheels at once. Much faster that way. A 3 ton will sometimes do it, but it struggles.

I wouldn’t hesitate to jack either end of a 3/4-1 ton truck with a 3 ton jack, unless of course in some weird application you are jacking from a center location.

 

[Skin]

Wait... Are you literally lifting the entire vehicle off the ground from one center point under the vehicle with nothing but a single floor jack?

I've never seen a reinforced lift point in the center of any vehicle, and it sounds incredibly dangerous.

Probably means both front or rear tires.

 

[Farmall450]

Get the original Yellow Daytona. The others have a smaller saddle. Anything less than 5'' x 5'' is too small and can damage the underbody.

Agreed, the yellow is the best (and original). You won't damage anything if you're smart enough to place the jack half-decently, however the yellow has better seals from what I've read and is stouter. Most don't need low profile.

OP, mine will do the *** end of a Case 85XT skidsteer...yours will handle a P/U truck.

 

[ChrisLS8]

Agreed, the yellow is the best (and original). You won't damage anything if you're smart enough to place the jack half-decently, however the yellow has better seals from what I've read and is stouter. Most don't need low profile.

OP, mine will do the *** end of a Case 85XT skidsteer...yours will handle a P/U truck.

Hell my old silver 3 ton lifted the front end of a 545d up easily with weighted wheels and the loader arms and bucket still on

 

[DieselNut88]

I have a 4 ton orange one. It lifts my diesel f250 great. It is a really nice jack.

 

[Razorhunter]

YES, sometimes I am lifting both rear wheels from the center. Truck has a flatbed with reinforced jacking point in the center near the tow hitch area I can use to lift bed up, but yes, there are also plenty of guys I know, even many shops I've seen who ******** the rear diff and never a problem. 3 ton jack I have now struggles a bit. I estimate the flatbed weighs 1k lbs of added weight. As I said, the 3 ton jack can do it, but it feels like a hydraulic bomb waiting to explode.
I'll probably go with the yellow 3 ton, but I still wish it was a 4 ton. I mean why wouldn't you make your best professional grade jack a 4 ton when you're already making them at this capacity anyway?

 

[Farmall450]

YES, sometimes I am lifting both rear wheels from the center. Truck has a flatbed with reinforced jacking point in the center near the tow hitch area I can use to lift bed up, but yes, there are also plenty of guys I know, even many shops I've seen who ******** the rear diff and never a problem. 3 ton jack I have now struggles a bit. I estimate the flatbed weighs 1k lbs of added weight. As I said, the 3 ton jack can do it, but it feels like a hydraulic bomb waiting to explode.
I'll probably go with the yellow 3 ton, but I still wish it was a 4 ton. I mean why wouldn't you make your best professional grade jack a 4 ton when you're already making them at this capacity anyway?

B/C a 3 ton is more than ample for what you're doing; it's a floor jack, you aren't hoisting up the entire truck.

 

[Razorhunter]

Yes, fully aware of what I'm lifting. I guess my 3 ton import jack is a POS. I'm sure the Daytonas are higher quality POS though, I'll give you that.

 

[Wamsutta]

Wamsutta: Damage the underbody???? Where are you jacking your vehicles up from? I jack from the frame or something solid. Couldn't possibly damage any of the above. What am I missing here?

Those tiny little saddles are just another thing to worry about; not worth it.

 

[chrisnazzy]

In the tire business we lift 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks with 3 jacks every day, 2 in front and 1 under the differential in the rear. Obviously the truck only has to come about an inch off the ground and no one is laying under the truck while tires are being changed. Standard jacks used for this are 3 ton.

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