HF Drill press and torches

[restomod]

I am sorry for another what's it worth thread but I need to sell a few things that are just sitting around that I wasnt planning on selling. I know they arent worth a lot and are the generic brands but just want a normal starting price so i dont look like an ***.

First a Central Machinery Floor Drill press a c117-f, I believe my grandfather had it for awhile but I have no idea the history or model numbers of HF lines? Just because it says Calif on the tag were they ever made state side?

Second is a set of torches, dont know much about torches?

I dont have enough posts to put these in the classifieds so if I cant post this let me know. I will be putting them up on CL.

Thanks for the help!

 

[evintho]

The drill press was about $350 new. I'd ask $100. Do the gauges on the tanks say 'Victor'? I'd say $150-$175 on the torches. Those are fair prices.

 

[bubinga]

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Sounds about right.

 

[restomod]

Thanks, Oxygen side have craftsman gauges and the ace side has Jas Marsh gauges? I figured the drill press was worth about that but thought my guess on the torches would have been a bit higher, glad i asked.

 

[MG44]

You'll get $300 for torches. You can hardly buy an empty bottle for $75

 

[restomod]

So ask 200 for the DP and see what I get since CL tire kickers will get me down to what it is worth. Cant be unhappy with anything, I have nothing in them just need some extra money and space. Saves me from asking some ridiculous prices I see on some other ads since I want them gone quick.

The drill press is pretty unused, not sure how many times he actually used it but not many by the looks of the belts and pulleys.

MG44, that's the reason I thought the torches worth more. Only because in the searches I did on current CL ads all the torches people were asking around 300-350 at that size tanks. I assumed they were something special or different than mine and they probably do have the better gauges but not many to compare to.

 

[ProCharger]

You'll get $300 for torches. You can hardly buy an empty bottle for $75

Looks like the ring on the neck of the oxy tank is marked, might have a hard time getting it filled. I know around here my local supplier will not touch a tank marked by another company.

 

[MG44]

I am not sure on the markings. I buy from valley/Matheson gas. The counter guys just ring up a refill and you drive around back and a guy unloads yours and loads a new painted cylinder.

All my cylinders came from different places with various markings. I've heard airgas and the likes are the sticklers but I have never bought from them.

 

[restomod]

Luckily that tag is from really the only place around to get a tank filled so I think I am ok there. As long as there arent some tanks that cant be filled anymore by law or something like the old propane tanks.

 

[restomod]

I hope to not be transporting them at all if I can help it but thanks for the tip if I do.

Sorry about the confusion I left the wording vague on the torches and thought the pic would cover it but its the whole lot you see in the pic.

 

[skulldrinker]

Tanks aren't cheap when you need one but you can always find a deal when time is on your side. I bought this large tank for $80 with a jewelers torch thrown in just cause he had to get rid of stuff in his cousins garage. He had the asking price of $120 for tank alone on CL originally. Now the tank is so large I can't afford to fill it at the present.

 

[restomod]

Ducks I genuinely appreciate the feedback and opinions. I literally had no idea where to start and feel a bit more educated at the very least. I will start high and just keep lowering until it sells. Whatever it happens to be is Ok with me I would be happy with any of the prices anyone has listed its all gravy to me.

 

[FunkyfullWidth]

Craigslist is not a good source for pricing items. People shoot from the hip with their prices. I got some used tanks years ago and I could not get them filled. They were out of date, they had a different company on them then who I use. I was SOL. When the time comes i'm going to get new/leased tanks, however it works. Tanks are very hard to sell, so like duck said. Take the first offer you get ha ha.

 

[Todd.Brock]

I bought a mostly full 125 cu ft equivalent size acetylene tank for 50 bucks. I bought an empty 125 cu ft c25 welding gas tank for 40 bucks. I sold that same drill press for 135. , Asked 150 and it took a few weeks. Tons of those type of drill press on CL around here. Just my experiences! Good luck with sale

 

[arz71]

I would not use a torch set made in China, don't care if it was given to me or free.

 

[restomod]

Thanks Todd that helps, I just listed them and feel confident now I have them listed right. Just hoping I just about anyone to show up and they are gone!

 

[Buckgnarly]

If someone can get those tanks filled or even certified, they will be worth a hell of a lot more than 75 bucks. Do not listen to any stories of local shops on the internet, the policy varies wildly everywhere you go. The problem is finding that one person who can get them filled/exchanged at their shop or business.
A tank set like that around here will go for 250ish all day, but my local Airgas will take owned tanks no problem. Hell, I wish you were closer for the tanks!

China torches are useless IMHO and I would not touch new ones even. I bought a set of old Harris for 75 on CL, 75 more to get them rebuilt and I had a set that would last a lifetime for 150.

Start high, wait a bit, then deal.

 

[zkling]

I think your prices are fair for the condition. The torch set really needs to be evaluated in person by someone that knows the local shop policy on tanks. There is a HUGE IF when dealing with med size tanks and used gas equipment in general.

Tanks aren't cheap when you need one but you can always find a deal when time is on your side. I bought this large tank for $80 with a jewelers torch thrown in just cause he had to get rid of stuff in his cousins garage. He had the asking price of $120 for tank alone on CL originally. Now the tank is so large I can't afford to fill it at the present.

You can't afford to fill it? What are you trying to get filled? Gas price per volume goes down the more you buy at one time, aka larger tank. Unless you are trying to get a He fill, then I understand

 

[Zeke]

You said torches, not bottles in your OP.
Old bottles will need certs. Prices vary.
When you are transporting them do not lay the acetylene bottle on its side.

I hope to not be transporting them at all if I can help it but thanks for the tip if I do.

Sorry about the confusion I left the wording vague on the torches and thought the pic would cover it but its the whole lot you see in the pic.

You can lay the acetylene bottle on its side. You have to wait a few hours after standing it up before using. The reason is that the acetylene is dissolved in acetone and the liquid lives in a dense matrix of porous materials, such as balsa wood, charcoal, and shredded asbestos to reduce open volume in the tank.

There is plenty of info on the net on how to decode the tank stamps. Or just call the LWS.

The drill press was not made in the U.S. No, Hollywood was the original location for the company that became Harbor Freight. They imported machines and wholesaled them to anyone that would buy them for resale. We used to have a LOT of independent tool dealers around that would sell all kinds of off-brand stuff. There are still a few around and they are complete toy stores. I know one place that must have a 1000 different types of circular saw blades.

But I digress. That's just a Rockwell knock off made in Taiwan. And it's a pretty good machine. Here in CA that would sell for close to 300. So would the tanks and setup.

 

[arz71]

That's a lovely sentiment.
Care to the tell us why?

China and valves involving gas/fuel does not sound like it is going to end well.

 

[Coach James]

The community college where I took welding used HF torches and never had any noticeable problems. The instructor told us if he was a pro welder, he would buy a higher dollar torch set, but that for anyone else, HF torches were fine.

Coach

 

[Jason280]

Have you checked the certification dates on the tanks, makes a difference online...

 

[taumac]

I use a tank exchange for my tanks so I never have to worry about recerts on them but if buying old tanks this will be something you have to deal with. The torches themselves I fell better using a new made brand verses something like a HF brand. Now there might not nothing wrong with a HF set but with dealing with highly flammable gasses isn't a place to skimp on regs, torch handles or hoses IMO.

 

[Zeke]

I use a tank exchange for my tanks so I never have to worry about recerts on them but if buying old tanks this will be something you have to deal with. The torches themselves I fell better using a new made brand verses something like a HF brand. Now there might not nothing wrong with a HF set but with dealing with highly flammable gasses isn't a place to skimp on regs, torch handles or hoses IMO.

There is far more danger in operator error. If you don't know the exact procedure to opening the valves, setting the pressures, and bleeding off when finished, then you don't have a concept of what the real danger is. I'll bet more tanks have fallen over than any chinese gauges exploding. And old torches with leaky o-rings can be load of fun. Ask me how I know.

I've done the dance.

 

[cheechi]

The drill press was about $350 new. I'd ask $100.

That's a very good drill press. I'd pay two hundred if I needed it.

That's just a Rockwell knock off made in Taiwan. And it's a pretty good machine. Here in CA that would sell for close to 300. So would the tanks and setup.

Craigslist is not a good source for pricing items.

All of these are true. Generally selling a HF item on CL you can expect 1/3-2/3 the typical new price for it, It depends on the item more than anything else but this is generally a good way to price it. If you wait I bet you would find someone who recognized the value of it and would pay near new price for it though,

With this specific DP I would pay 150-200 max but I can see the value in it at $300. About the next best thing you could get is the PC at Lowe's that I would have to see them side by side to say which is better.

 

[taumac]

There is far more danger in operator error. If you don't know the exact procedure to opening the valves, setting the pressures, and bleeding off when finished, then you don't have a concept of what the real danger is. I'll bet more tanks have fallen over than any chinese gauges exploding. And old torches with leaky o-rings can be load of fun. Ask me how I know.



I've done the dance.

I can just imagine that. Scary. Of course you have to know what your doing. I chose new over old cause there's not to many LWS around by me and with price of rebuild being 2/3 price of new I figured it was no brainer. Old stuff scares me with dry rotted hoses and questionable servicing of regs and O rings in torch head. I knocked over my turbo torch over many many times. Luckily it's never taken a big spill or landed on reg. that setup is top heavy. My O/A set I keep in carrier to keep it from falling.

 

[arz71]

Exactly as above.
If you haven't had a Chinese torch fail in your hand, in a way no USA torch has ever ever failed, how do you have an opinion of Chinese torches?

China toothpaste poisoned people (antifreeze)
China dog food well the dogs died
China sheet rock (condemned houses)
China toxic toys
China (food products) good luck on that one

It is all garbage/junk but people seem to have a fascination with throwing money down a rat hole.

I would spend the money on a torch kit made in USA with quality control.

 

[restomod]

Well the oxygen tank was half full but the ace was empty so couldn't fire it up. That said I just sold it for 200 to the second guy that came and looked. The first passed bec he couldn't see it work. Second guy didn't seem to mind and looked happy to have it. Was happy to get 200 and he will use it everyday by the sounds of it. Better than sitting in my shed.

Have an email on the drill press will update if I sell it.

 

[bubinga]

Well the oxygen tank was half full but the ace was empty so couldn't fire it up. That said I just sold it for 200 to the second guy that came and looked. The first passed bec he couldn't see it work. Second guy didn't seem to mind and looked happy to have it. Was happy to get 200 and he will use it everyday by the sounds of it. Better than sitting in my shed.

Have an email on the drill press will update if I sell it.

Good deal, did you ask $100.00 for the drill press?

 

[restomod]

Listed it for 150

 

[Zeke]

Damn. Wish I was on the other side of the continent.

 

[restomod]

I wish the post count requirement wasn't 100 to put them in the classifieds. I get the reasoning and see that on most forums, but not 100 more like 20 or less.

 

[restomod]

Just sold the drill press for $150 just in case it helps anyone else down the road. Found the tag that it was made in 1980 in Taiwan.

 

[bubinga]

good job.