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mrvm

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All my HF freebies or fool-me-oncers are stored in a card board box outside the main tool cabinet. Most are destined to be repurposed, borrowed or donated. Only a few HF "gems" make it to the main tool cabinet and they won't be powered.
 
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Well said! :thumbup:
I agree with that statement! the OP is clearly talking about how he has used cheaper tools at home to get the job done, but has quality tools at work...Sounds exactly like me...and some of us others here. I cant predict what I will need for a job at home, and dont want to spend time running back and forth to the shop..so brands like pittsburgh fit in nicely for home tool sets.
 

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If I like the tool and it is quality I don't care where it is made. I love my Chinese Low Profile Craftsman Rats and my Craftsman Reversible Ratcheting Combos, so sue me. It's a world economy, pull your heads out of the sand already.
 

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Not everyone needs Snap-On durability on every tool.

I've come to two conclusions:

1) No one needs Snap On durability. I bet full time mechanics can get by just fine on Harbor Freight tools.

2) Snap On is over rated. Because they put a $150 price tag on a ratchet does not mean that it performs ten times better than a $15 Craftsman/Husky/Harbor Freight/Lowes ratchet.
 

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at the risk of severe flamage, I will for the most part agree with the points made by Cato and Magnum Force also. I have to give props to the Craftsman low profile ratchets,,they really are comfortable workhorses. I had a USA 3/8 drive that I abused the heck out of for years AT WORK. I ended up breaking it, traded it in and got a chinese replacement..I am NOT disappointed with the replacement! I use the 1/4" and 3/8" daily on the job, I'm thinking I need the 1/2" as well.
 
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I rate a ratchet on daily use for years without failures, like never even needing a warranty policy backing it up.
I found those ratchets under a German brand and beat on them for years. They were opened, cleaned and lubed about every half year. Work 6 days a week and carry only one ratchet in each size without ever having to worry about a backup unit or when the truck rolls back in next week.
I still have those ratchets and they still work great 8 years later. And they cost a ****** fortune, worth every cent of it.

Sockets I use low end stuff and they have never failed either. So the mix of one great gem and then whatever else works has been my plan for years.

I've no need to try a D80 ratchet, nor the funds to get one. I read all the time that they need changing or fixing but I'm sure some is abuse and some is material defects. Too hard to tell the %s but it is a mix.
That does not appeal to me.
I like old faithful even if it is a bit worse for the wear and getting ugly. She'll work without fail at anything the next time I need to use it, I have no doubts.
 

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^ good point. I always take new ratchets apart just to check out the guts,and lube them. Depending on usage, I clean and lube them every six months or so..and I use them everyday..all day. it is worth the time to maintain them!
 

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Maybe if people had bought the USA-made Danaher stuff instead of continually bitching about their tender hands being hurt by raised panels or other nonsense, Danaher wouldn't have had to outsource.

They'd do it anyway because: gold plated shark tanks for the executive bathrooms.:lol:
 

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Occasional jobs ( that go alright) Isn't that what cheap *** tools are made for ?
Daily wrenching or when things go pear shaped is when you need quality
The hard bit is guessing when the job is going to be straight forward

The post could have read , broke my impact cos the wheel nuts were done up by a Ape in a tyre shop , eventually got wheel off by borrowing my neighbours 10ft breaker bar , then found the caliper bolts had been rounded off by a prat with a windy gun , got them off by whacking a old socket on with a lump hammer , then after all that I was prising the pistons back in and the screwdriver broke and I ended up in A&E ,

Oh and wife ran off with the ambulance driver
 

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The OP didn't ASK what he should have bought or not bought. He reported that something he had purchased that others amy or may not like did the job for him.

Good for you, OP. Good job!

Please ignore the trolls - HF and SO alike. Hopefully you are still happy that you posted, even with all the detritus that ended up in your thread.
 

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Most guys who buy theses types of tools, buy them for three reasons:

A. Convenience. There is a jobber truck that comes to them on regular basis negating the need for them to go offsite to buy tools (if that is even possible for most mechanics).

B. There is a toothy Snap-On salesman talking their stuff up and deriding every other manufacturer on the market.

C. There is a sub culture built on this false narrative among mechanics and other working stiffs that justifies spending this exorbitant amount of money for tools to do their job, that essentially brands Snap-On as THE tool for "real" mechanical professionals.

I can tell you first hand this is bullsh!t. There is a very blue collar area of town where I live, it used to be mainly factories, then ghetto, now it is mainly Hispanic. Whenever I go by any of the automotive repair shops (mainly looking for used tires for my Truck) these guys use nothing but HF tools. They are not sucked into all of the hype. They use what is cheap, plentiful, and what works and their businesses are booming. Meanwhile I see Snap-On boxes all the time on CL by former or wanna be mechanics...those boxes stay on CL for months as the owner tries to recoup his loses.

Just had to respond to this.

Here is Detroit, we have the biggest racial divide of any American city. The HF on my end of the city is well out into the suburbs, yet whenever I go there, I see city folks there, buying the tools they need for their shade tree work. They know the price/performance ratio.

Go to the dealerships and shops in the suburbs and you will see lots of SO. Fits the needs of the techs for convenience and hard production use and easy warranty.

To each his own.



Not to say they are the nee plus ultra of tools. But they do the job for a price.
 

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Most guys who buy theses types of tools, buy them for three reasons:

A. Convenience. There is a jobber truck that comes to them on regular basis negating the need for them to go offsite to buy tools (if that is even possible for most mechanics).

B. There is a toothy Snap-On salesman talking their stuff up and deriding every other manufacturer on the market.

C. There is a sub culture built on this false narrative among mechanics and other working stiffs that justifies spending this exorbitant amount of money for tools to do their job, that essentially brands Snap-On as THE tool for "real" mechanical professionals.

I can tell you first hand this is bullsh!t. There is a very blue collar area of town where I live, it used to be mainly factories, then ghetto, now it is mainly Hispanic. Whenever I go by any of the automotive repair shops (mainly looking for used tires for my Truck) these guys use nothing but HF tools. They are not sucked into all of the hype. They use what is cheap, plentiful, and what works and their businesses are booming. Meanwhile I see Snap-On boxes all the time on CL by former or wanna be mechanics...those boxes stay on CL for months as the owner tries to recoup his loses.


I know how this works. Ive been a mechanic for a long time. And i work in the philly/allentown suburbs and walk in to any sucessfull auto shop around here and all you will see is quality tools and tool boxes. We work on everything from small cars all the way up to class 8 trucks and tractors. Working on this stuff takes its abuse on tools. Some times you gotta do what u gotta do to get the job done. You ever do ball joints on a 3500 dodge. You're not getting them out with a hf balljoint press and a hf air hammer.
 

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Seems to work fine for a plethora of folks on YouTube.

Yeah, he chose a strange couple of tools to pick on. That ball joint press isn't too bad if you know how to use one. I don't know anyone who uses it at work, but I have one at home and I've certainly done a hell of a lot with it. The Earthquake gun is beyond proven in pro settings.

Speaking as someone in a suburban dealership with higher-end makes, the better stuff from Harbor Freight is well-represented. Pro Screwdrivers, composite ratchets, impact sockets, 25" breaker bar, US General boxes, die grinders...plenty of that stuff around my shop.
 
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Yeah, he chose a strange couple of tools to pick on. That ball joint press isn't too bad if you know how to use one. I don't know anyone who uses it at work, but I have one at home and I've certainly done a hell of a lot with it. The Earthquake gun is beyond proven in pro settings.

Speaking as someone in a suburban dealership with higher-end makes, the better stuff from Harbor Freight is well-represented. Pro Screwdrivers, composite ratchets, impact sockets, 25" breaker bar, US General boxes, die grinders...plenty of that stuff around my shop.

Which die grinders do you guys like? I am in the market and don't want to get the wrong one.
 
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I got a lot of stuff, the other day changed out some parts, even with everything handy it was about as easy to do it with a pair of vise grips and an adjustable. ha
 

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I know how this works. Ive been a mechanic for a long time. And i work in the philly/allentown suburbs and walk in to any sucessfull auto shop around here and all you will see is quality tools and tool boxes. We work on everything from small cars all the way up to class 8 trucks and tractors. Working on this stuff takes its abuse on tools. Some times you gotta do what u gotta do to get the job done. You ever do ball joints on a 3500 dodge. You're not getting them out with a hf balljoint press and a hf air hammer.

I have heard very good things about the Earthquake. I was thinking about getting one myself. A real monster. If Snap-On were selling thing thing they would charge a $1000.

http://www.harborfreight.com/34-in-professional-air-impact-wrench-68423.html
 

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Harbor freight ball joint press has done dozens of dodge trucks at my shop.
 

XxToolAholicxX

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As a consumer we all want to save money and buy cheap no matter what it is. Harbor Freight delivers to those consumers. I have tools of all different manufacturers including Harbor Freight and yes they are of good quality. It doesn't matter where the tool is made its the quality. To all the Harbor Freight haters the next time a tool truck comes to the shop ask the vendor why their are not marked MADE IN THE USA. mmmm
The money you guys save could put your kids through college not the vendors.



I am a Toolaholic,Sometimes I regret it,Especially when the Toolman won't give me no credit




I am a Toolaholic
 

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Yeah the weekend warrior actually checks his oil filter to make sure he screwed it on properly....

Best comment on here ever.

I have gotten two new engines on two different cars for this very reason. One was at the dealer and one was at a private, very well thought of shop. Neither was a jiffy lube or wal mart place...

I change my own oil now.
 

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Best comment on here ever.

I have gotten two new engines on two different cars for this very reason. One was at the dealer and one was at a private, very well thought of shop. Neither was a jiffy lube or wal mart place...

I change my own oil now.

No more new engines for you! :)
 

chicane

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I know how this works. Ive been a mechanic for a long time. And i work in the philly/allentown suburbs and walk in to any sucessfull auto shop around here and all you will see is quality tools and tool boxes. We work on everything from small cars all the way up to class 8 trucks and tractors. Working on this stuff takes its abuse on tools. Some times you gotta do what u gotta do to get the job done. You ever do ball joints on a 3500 dodge. You're not getting them out with a hf balljoint press and a hf air hammer.

Even the pro mechanics tell the young guys to stay away from the tool trucks because they are too expensive:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=231511&highlight=davefr
 

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Don't even know why i bother posting on here anymore. All everyone does is beat the HF drum. Its on the internet it must be true.
 
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