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High Quality Flat Wrenches

BrandonV

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What is everyone's top choice for flat/thin wrenches for low torque applications?

Think washing machine feet.
 
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gregs

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I bought a set of metric Chinese super thin wrenches from Amazon to adjust the clutch in my cheap Chines tractor. The brand was DER ERWACHTE, whatever that means. But they are actually decent for the price. My Craftsman tappet wrenches where to thick.
 

2ndGearRubber

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I bought a set of Facom primarily for holding caliper pins while I buzzed out the pin bolt. They've held up very well for me,, including against power tools.
 

lardy1

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I have Capri and wouldn't recommend them for any type of professional mechanical wrenching. I use them on older power tool arbors and some hardware adjustments but they don't give me any sense of security at all.
 

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Yup. I bought a set of SAE Duratechs but I'm looking for something non-Chinese to satisfy Berry Amendment.
Martin makes Check Nut wrenches in both SAE and Metric.
The wrenches were thinner than my Craftsman Tappet wrenches.
The wrenches are not cheap though, and are not really pretty either. (More Fugly)
Industrial supply places like McMaster-Carr carry the wrenches, although you can sometimes find them on eBay as well.
 

Samuel D

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I have some very thin spanners for bicycles mostly, but I also have a set of Stahlwille Open Box 13 combination spanners. The open ends on those are thinner than most regular spanners and are very useful for that reason. Indeed I used them for my washing machine feet (since you mentioned that). And when they do fit, they’re a lot stronger than bicycle cone spanners and the like.
 

JimH74

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I have the Capri set, and a set of Craftsman tappet in sae. The capri are thinner than the craftsman. They work just fine for what I piddle around with here at the house. I don't know how they would hold up in a professional setting being used every day.
 

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I have the ancient USA Cman tappet wrenches in inch sizes and Facom in metric. The Facom is thinner than a USA tappet wrench. The Facom's have rarely seen any use, but are ok so far. If I was buying metric today, I'd look at the Capri. I don't think this thin a wrench can inspire confidence, but it would be interesting to hear more feedback on them since Capri pretty much gets excellent reviews here.

I have a V8 tools set that I bought ~10 years ago. I wasn't expecting much for the price, but was still absolutely shocked at how ****** they are. Absolute garbage. Stamped out of mild steel sheet, plating is the worst I've ever seen..... I'd give them away tomorrow....
 

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I have the Capri set and they've been fine. I've mainly used them to hold swaybar links and similar, but pretty sure I used them to level my dryer...
 

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I have Facoms at home and a set of stubbt durateck at work. both fill the need. if you want a nicer set with large openings check out V8 tools or mass fabricator
 
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LWB

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How does the thickness compare between the Genius and Capri?

The Capri look much thinner, so is it apples to apples?

What is better about the Genius do you think?

The Genius are thicker and have more meat to them. The Capri are stamped steel with a hard edge. These are sold under various other names too just like most tools. Olsa comes to mind. Both work as intended but I prefer the Genius, I would also prefer snap on, falcom, and others for the same reason.

 

Steve_P

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The Capri are stamped steel with a hard edge.

If you think the Capri are stamped steel with a hard edge, you need to buy a set of the V8 ones. The V8 ones ARE stamped sheet steel, about half as thick as the Capri appear- which seem to be copies of the Facom. The V8 are absolute garbage and I'm surprised whenever anyone recommends them here; I don't think I've bought any tool that was shittier in my 35+ years of buying tools.
 

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If you think the Capri are stamped steel with a hard edge, you need to buy a set of the V8 ones. The V8 ones ARE stamped sheet steel, about half as thick as the Capri appear- which seem to be copies of the Facom. The V8 are absolute garbage and I'm surprised whenever anyone recommends them here; I don't think I've bought any tool that was shittier in my 35+ years of buying tools.

Hey Steve. I'm glad I've never heard of them lol
 

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My calipers at work, I think from 2021 or 2022. These have the buttons sticking out a bit.

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By the way, another point to take into consideration for calipers: the steel.

Mitutoyo stainless steel is specifically chosen and processed to be wear resistant in caliper usage and remain accurate for years. Cheap calipers not so much so. Even the way mitutoyo is ground, you can see the ways are ground lengthwise to minimize wear over time.

I see this a lot as I work in a technical ceramics factory - working with highly abrasive super hard materials takes its tool on measuring equipment. For actually measuring the ceramic products we typically use carbide tipped calipers, which are in an entirely different sphere of cost. But the workers also got some very cheap calipers (in think in the 50€ range) that look similar to mitutoyos but the jaws wear out much faster.

For the best budget caliper - the mitutoyo clones actually shouldn't be slept on. If you know what you're buying. I think they go on Aliexpress for 30-40€. It is very bad to buy one for the mitutoyo price because the accuracy isn't there, but for 30-40€ those may be among the best on the market.

The clones are also "absolute", but they work a bit different. I can move my real mitutoyo anywhere on the scale, turn it on and it accurately shows the reading. But the clones immediately turn on as soon as you move them - so they're also absolute, but it is easy to distinguish it.
 

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My calipers at work, I think from 2021 or 2022. These have the buttons sticking out a bit.

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By the way, another point to take into consideration for calipers: the steel.

Mitutoyo stainless steel is specifically chosen and processed to be wear resistant in caliper usage and remain accurate for years. Cheap calipers not so much so. Even the way mitutoyo is ground, you can see the ways are ground lengthwise to minimize wear over time.

I see this a lot as I work in a technical ceramics factory - working with highly abrasive super hard materials takes its tool on measuring equipment. For actually measuring the ceramic products we typically use carbide tipped calipers, which are in an entirely different sphere of cost. But the workers also got some very cheap calipers (in think in the 50€ range) that look similar to mitutoyos but the jaws wear out much faster.

For the best budget caliper - the mitutoyo clones actually shouldn't be slept on. If you know what you're buying. I think they go on Aliexpress for 30-40€. It is very bad to buy one for the mitutoyo price because the accuracy isn't there, but for 30-40€ those may be among the best on the market.

The clones are also "absolute", but they work a bit different. I can move my real mitutoyo anywhere on the scale, turn it on and it accurately shows the reading. But the clones immediately turn on as soon as you move them - so they're also absolute, but it is easy to distinguish it.
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I had a couple of old Craftsman thin wrenches in SAE sizes, but recently bought the MAC sets in Metric and SAE. Obviously low torque, I wouldn't lean on them much but they're good for holding the flats of a tie rod or ball joint, or adjusting appliance feet as you have the need. :)
 

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Grant Gunderson

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left to right is a Park cone wrench, Snapon low torque and a Snapon flank drive plus.

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They each have their benefits. I work on a lot of mountain bike suspensions, so the Snapon low-torque are my go to for that.
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However the Park cone wrenches can be placed on a torque wrench and used as a thin crowfoot when needed.
 
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