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kythri said:
P.T. Barnum had something to say about it...
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Very true, although, I have had it work out to my advantage, depending on HOW high the bid was. If it's high, but still a reasonable price, people will sometimes never bid, while they bid the same item that started lower to a higher ending price than Item #1. That's when I throw in a single bid and win Item #1.
 
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The torque wrench is actually a great deal if it's "new" as claimed considering the retail. I'd ****** it up if I didn't have one already.
 
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It's a nice torque wrench, I put an 6" extension with a socket on the end, pull down on the collar and spin the wrench body itself so I don't have to waste time turning it to the torque I want. Compared to the other types I've seen I wouldn't hesitate to buy that one if the regular style "clicker" is your thing.
 
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nissan_crawler said:
There's nothing "positive" on them, you just turn them until they jam. They come loose unless you jam them hard, and if you jam them hard, they're a pain to get loose.
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Thanks for the explanation. I used one once; I remember feeling like I was going to inadvertently change the torque setting by turning the lock ring.
 
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Merkava_4 said:
Thanks for the explanation. I used one once; I remember feeling like I was going to inadvertently change the torque setting by turning the lock ring.
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Been there, done that. It really pisses you off when you torque 200 screws in an airplane window to get done and see the torque has moved, and you don't know where. Then you get to loosen all of them and start over. Hence, my hatred for that style. The collar style locks into place, and if you do happen to push it up and change the torque, it snaps into place and you hear it.
 
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Merkava_4 said:
I'm going to have to someday if the intake manifold gaskets ever blow out; I've got a Buick with the 3800.
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Which generation 3800 do you have? The ones that seems to have the most issues are the Series II... I just did the intake on one of those. Not the worst job in the world, but if you have ANY traces of coolant n the oil, take the oil pan off and clean it out really well!

The 1/2 flex ratchet seems to be reasonable at $50... but I don't think I would pay much more than that for the ratchet. Might have to pull a Nissan crawler on that one :lol:
 
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Which generation 3800 do you have?
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3800 Series II. :spit:
 
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That's still a great motor. Mine went about 165xxx before I had to deal with the intake gaskets. I put a new plastic manifold on it while I was at it. It was inexpensive enough and - get this - made in USA!
 
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Merkava, do yourself a favor and change the intake now. I can tell you the exact parts you need in a PM if you like. Total cost is only about $200 to fix it right. And don't put DexCool back in it. Flush the coolant and change it to a universal coolant. I just did this job on my '00 Bonneville and my sis's '98 Bonneville and it isn't that bad. Her car has 50k on the clock and her gaskets failed. ALL of the coolant was gone by the time she got to her work. We had to tow it back and fix it, luckily there was no permanent damage done. I was proactive about mine and fixed it after hers went. My car has 90k miles. So, mileage has nothing to do with it really. The 3800 is a great engine but you have to get those gaskets fixed. BTW, you will want a nice inch lb torque wrench for that job and some nice external torx IIRC. Another reason for more tools.:)
 
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I think this is a similar engine, my brother and I just did the intake gasket job; we had to get this tool to get the pushrods out. This Lisle tool really makes the job allot easier and we have run across quite a few of these on the GM cars. I think our engine was maybe later then the one you have but this link has a "how to" tech aricle and has a link to the tool, the video shows it in use. Pretty cool page and cool tool. :)
http://www.denlorstools.com/home/dt...m_intake_gaskets_with_lisle_pushrod_tool.html
 
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The last one is from a pawn shop. They have a lot of very expensive pawn shops on ebay.
 
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I would prefer to see a "Buy It Now" price if the seller is going to post a high starting bid.

That way, I could choose whether to pay the BIN price or wait a week to find out I got outbid.

OT > Which 3800s had the big plastic cover over the intake that could double as a snow shovel?

Our '87 Olds was totaled by a hit/run driver. They just called that engine a 3.8l in those days.
 
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OT > Which 3800s had the big plastic cover over the intake that could double as a snow shovel?
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I got one that came on mine, and mine is the '95-2004 Series ll 3800. 2005 was the Series lll. I'm not sure if your Series l came with an engine cover or not. Mine sits on the garage shelf in a white trash bag; I don't use it.
 
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Merkava, I just won an auction over the weekend for a VERY rare lot of snap on tools, for WELL below their value, and I credit it mostly to a high starting bid (which was still well below value), as well as the auction ending on a saturday night.
 
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Merkava_4 said:
I got one that came on mine, and mine is the '95-2004 Series ll 3800. 2005 was the Series lll. I'm not sure if your Series l came with an engine cover or not. Mine sits on the garage shelf in a white trash bag; I don't use it.
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No, the '87 had no cover. It actually had an alloy intake manifold.

My inlaws have a '94 or so Buick with the plastic manifold. It even has the "recycle triangle" symbol on it.

I can say that '87 Olds was one of the best performing daily drivers I have seen. Lots of power, good mileage and low maintenance. It got destroyed by a low-life in Feb. 2001. He left my wife for dead, trapped in her overturned car, and never looked back.

Someday, I am looking forward to a wall-to-wall counseling session with that degenerate POS. But that's another story.

I'd do a high starting bid on him, or even a "Buy It Now" LOL
 
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Merkava_4 said:
Do you guys ever get intimidated by high starting bids? I certainly do. Here's a couple to start the thread off with:
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No. If a bid is too high for me whether it be opening or closing I don't bid. Best of luck to the bidders and sellers I say.

As a seller I have received messages like "Why did you start it so high? Takes the fun out of bidding." Well, selling on ebay is fun for a small sect of people, it aint so much fun for most, especially if you do it for a living (almost every ebay seller I have known has quit) and it's expensive and time consuming and it REALLY ***** to start something low and have it sell low just because it was one of those weeks. Wow, I gambled and lost, now I can't eat, well at least the winning bidder is having a good time. When less are bidding (ebay traffic is down) it is wise to take less chances especially if you have a lot invested or to support (ie. business).
 
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SocketDeviler said:
No. If a bid is too high for me whether it be opening or closing I don't bid. Best of luck to the bidders and sellers I say.

As a seller I have received messages like "Why did you start it so high? Takes the fun out of bidding." Well, selling on ebay is fun for a small sect of people, it aint so much fun for most, especially if you do it for a living (almost every ebay seller I have known has quit) and it's expensive and time consuming and it REALLY ***** to start something low and have it sell low just because it was one of those weeks. Wow, I gambled and lost, now I can't eat, well at least the winning bidder is having a good time. When less are bidding (ebay traffic is down) it is wise to take less chances especially if you have a lot invested or to support (ie. business).
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Very valid point!!!
 
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Merkava_4 said:
I got one that came on mine, and mine is the '95-2004 Series ll 3800. 2005 was the Series lll. I'm not sure if your Series l came with an engine cover or not. Mine sits on the garage shelf in a white trash bag; I don't use it.
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There has been a big problem with the supercharged 3800 series lately with leaking valve covers but the 3800's and the ecotecs are the most reliable, the 3400's are garbage
 
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nissan_crawler said:
There's nothing "positive" on them, you just turn them until they jam. They come loose unless you jam them hard, and if you jam them hard, they're a pain to get loose.
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We have Proto and Sturtevant-Richmont torque wrenches at work. The Protos have the spring loaded pull down collar and are easy to set to the right torque, the 3/4 drive are real easy to do this with. The S-R ones have a turn lock in the bottom of the handle, it works backwards if I recall, left to tighten and right to loosen the lock, it is difficult to operate and as noted, if you get it tight enough to hold, you need pliers to unlock it. While I do own a couple of S-R torque wrenches, the pull down lock beats the twist to lock, hands down.

Charles
 
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