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After now watching the full video, I think that is some US Govt surplus that was purchased by someone and has been sitting rotting for decades. Interesting that the stuff they deemed worthy will be available at some point in the "near future" at HJE. I certainly didn't know places like that still exist. Couldn't even dream that until now! :drool:
 

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I watched a few minutes, most of it looked like import junk that was poorly stored.

Did I miss something good later on?

I like the bolt cutters casually laying by the "open" door.
 

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No, seriously, now, as I was telling @misterbill, who sent me the link yesterday, that place is incredible. Much bigger than anything I have ever gone through. A Picker's Shangri-la, really. If you had access, it would be a great place to take a 1-week vacation with a picker pal. Because you would need a week to see what was there, think about what you selectively wanted, and then pack it out. They took a bulk flippers' approach.

After now watching the full video, I think that is some US Govt surplus that was purchased by someone and has been sitting rotting for decades.
Like the warehouse for Charlie's in Denver. Possibly. I was thinking it looked like an old Army Ordnance Dept depot site that was sold in situ and abandoned. They went through at least two different buildings, one of which - with the high windows and heavy machinery, was a shop, and that also had a bunch of shelving and cabinetry with files and other tools. As Tobyhanna grew it used all kinds of off-site sites like that in NE PA, just for example.

The tools were a mix of wartime and postwar (the "old" (HAHA!) Crescent screwdrivers, slip joints, and the Billings Life-Time sockets, the soft-blows, for example) and then even more modern things on top of that.

What or who is HJE? I'm not a YouTuber. Reason I ask is, I was surprised they didn't know what most things were. The Huffman swingspout measures, for example, the Bonney 1-inch square drive extensions (6:52), the APCO-Mossberg name on the spark plug wrenches (and being surprised they were made of pressed steel), the "little jacks" around 15:40 to 16:30 (which were postwar jeep jacks). I am betting they left all the DBEs and DOEs behind, put off by the weight and dealing with the typical depot stockage (same sizes packed by dozens in the same box) to make sets. Looks like they took that box of Bonney T6 18" 3/8-in drive extensions, though, probably thinking they could flip those as users, not collectibles. All the speeders (4:00) were APCO-Mossberg.
 
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Was Charlie’s in Denver down on Federal? If so, they had a ton of stuff, and a warehouse that they let you in once a year in June. It was three generations of the same family that had owned it, and they had a lot of military surplus tools. The owner once told me that they were selling wrenches to scrap because no one was buying them. They had a ton of Bonney, Plomb, Proto, and other brands of military surplus. That was about ten years ago. I used to go in about once a week or so when I lived there 2005-2012.
 

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No, seriously, now, as I was telling @misterbill, who sent me the link yesterday, that place is incredible. Much bigger than anything I have ever gone through. A Picker's Shangri-la, really. If you had access, it would be a great place to take a 1-week vacation with a picker pal. Because you would need a week to see what was there, think about what you selectively wanted, and then pack it out. They took a bulk flippers' approach.


Like the warehouse for Charlie's in Denver. Possibly. I was thinking it looked like an old Army Ordnance Dept depot site that was sold in situ and abandoned. They went through at least two different buildings, one of which - with the high windows and heavy machinery, was a shop, and that also had a bunch of shelving and cabinetry with files and other tools. As Tobyhanna grew it used all kinds of off-site sites like that in NE PA, just for example.

The tools were a mix of wartime and postwar (the "old" (HAHA!) Crescent screwdrivers, slip joints, and the Billings Life-Time sockets, the soft-blows, for example) and then even more modern things on top of that.

What or who is HJE? I'm not a YouTuber. Reason I ask is, I was surprised they didn't know what most things were. The Huffman swingspout measures, for example, the Bonney 1-inch square drive extensions (6:52), the APCO-Mossberg name on the spark plug wrenches (and being surprised they were made of pressed steel), the "little jacks" around 15:40 to 16:30 (which were postwar jeep jacks). I am betting they left all the DBEs and DOEs behind, put off by the weight and dealing with the typical depot stockage (same sizes packed by dozens in the same box) to make sets. Looks like they took that box of Bonney T6 18" 3/8-in drive extensions, though, probably thinking they could flip those as users, not collectibles. All the speeders (4:00) were APCO-Mossberg.
Harry Epstein. I was really surprised about their lack of knowledge about some of the tools. Never heard of Vlchek? That case of Jeep spark plug sockets that they made fun of could have had a Ford GPW marked example that I’ve been searching for for years.

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Never heard of Vlchek?
Did you hear him pronounce "BON A LOY" like it was the first time he had said the word in his life, and with a question mark on the end? Or the way he marveled at seeing an SPW with a cross-bar for the first time in his life? Or the other guy reading the Bonney 3/8-drive extension box label, saying "Whit., Pratt" and not recognizing it as PWA?

Hey, to be fair, if that warehouse was full of saw dust makers' tools I'd be a fish out of water, too, but they were not the right guys to go through that warehouse!
 

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Probably rightly so, HJE is looking for items they can sell easily for a profit. So, for example, not a big market for DBE and DOE wrenches in imperial sizes. It's also not worth their time and materials to try and clean up tools that they're going to have to store for a long time before they can move them along.

It's too bad they don't have someone with a little knowledge of the antique tool market that could educate them enough to realize that they could cherry pick some of the haul and put together jeep toolkit/GMTK/vendor-specific bundles that they COULD make a profit on. Not a huge seller volume-wise, but could have a decent profit margin.

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Totally concur, Bill. That's why I was hankering for a 1-week selective approach.

What bugged me is the way they took their crowbars to the boxes without reading the labels.

Speaking of which, 9:26, wood box with the long drill bits, "Terre-Haute Ordnance Depot". Later (16:50) they see something that says "Raritan Arsenal", though, which is N.J., so Tex could be right, if there was stuff from multiple depots.

15:45 - I'd love the get my hands on the "spearhead" DOE boxes from "Cleveland". Undoubtedly Fairmount from 1943-ish, when the new GGG spec came out.
~19:00 - Crate of Alemite 6593 15 oz lever action grease guns for jeep under-hood brackets (which sell for $45 a pop!)
22:55 - they are moving a pallet with a crate with 1/2-inch square drive sockets sets on top that they never even opened! I hope it was to keep, but it may have just been to get out of the way

By the way, here (shown with my other Bonney 3/8-drive tools) is an example of the fifty (50) NOS T6 18" 3/8-inch drive extensions in that "Whit. Pratt" crate at 25:20-26:00.

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Here are a couple of Mossberg speeders like the ones they left behind. I need one of those long auger bits for my Carpenters set and will probably never find one. They didn’t pay much attention to the Plomb repacks either. They should have taken Bill with them!😳
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Here are a couple of Mossberg speeders like the ones they left behind. I need one of those long auger bits for my Carpenters set and will probably never find one. They didn’t pay much attention to the Plomb repacks either. They should have taken Bill with them!😳
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Don, I'd be as distracted as everyone else! ;) And to Lugz's point, I cringed when they ripped into the Wright crate.
 
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I like how he put a chain & lock on the doors to a place they invaded
Jori's no ones fool. He's been in business a long time and all though I don't know him personally am darn certain he'd never take that kind of risk let alone post a break-in on youtube for all the see. Yes they said someone had broken in, but it wasn't them.
 

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My impression is they were allowed to go through it and pull out what they wanted ("12 pallets and a sailboat" they said at the end), which was then priced. I could be wrong. It didn't look like they bought the whole lot.

It was funny how they kept finding things that were left behind by whoever broke in and raided it before. One of them climbed up on that stack of boxes, found a hammer marked "Spain", thought the boxes were apparently full of imported hammers, but it was full of ground vehicle prism periscopes. There was also a very modern red crow bar by itself that someone picked up and quickly let go.
 
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Agreed Lugz. I'm pretty sure they got permission from the owner and worked out a deal. Owner probably said "chain and lock the door back when you're done". Only thing that makes sense. They mentioned the crates early on as though it would be great to preserve those as well. At some point, you've just got to do what you have to do if you only have a day or two to get what you came for. What fun that would have been! They were clearly enjoying it as much as all of us would have.

I really liked what looked like railroad jacks. There were two in an opened crate, one red, one black. And no way I leave those 3-drawer cabinets there! WTH!
 

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I can understand the HJE guys not disclosing the location, obviously, which would only encourage potential future break-ins, but I wish they'd publish the owner's contact info. If he let them in and they only took 12 pallets, there's 3 x that many pallets left behind, and it appears the owner is interested in selling it.
 

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I can understand the HJE guys not disclosing the location, obviously, which would only encourage potential future break-ins, but I wish they'd publish the owner's contact info. If he let them in and they only took 12 pallets, there's 3 x that many pallets left behind, and it appears the owner is interested in selling it.
Maybe they will through indirect contact, not on a public forum due to the owners wishes. The Ohio boat tag and the temps are a great hint though!....my brain gears were turning!

That just about wraps up my life though....."urban exploration" combined with tools and WW history....MIND BLOWN.
 

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"urban exploration" combined with tools and WW history....MIND BLOWN.
Right? I'm serious when I say it would be the perfect 1-week vacation. You could set up in a local hotel. Dig and sort all day, inventory and research at night. Start every day with coffee and end every night with a nip of single malt. Load and haul out on the last day. I'd be coming home with a piece of any crate that had an Ordnance Dept marking or FSN on it, regardless of contents, in addition to the tools.
Maybe they will through indirect contact, not on a public forum due to the owners wishes.
Oh, I'm already on it.
 

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Right? I'm serious when I say it would be the perfect 1-week vacation. You could set up in a local hotel. Dig and sort all day, inventory and research at night. Start every day with coffee and end every night with a nip of single malt. Load and haul out on the last day. I'd be coming home with a piece of any crate that had an Ordnance Dept marking or FSN on it, regardless of contents, in addition to the tools.

Oh, I'm already on it.

You let me know what you find. I grew up in PA, have a great Army buddy in the 'Nati, and family in Pittsburg. I would LOVE to check that place out if possible. Maybe pay by weight amusement park? I also have about 8 or so VT-Husky themed box arts from HJE in my garage. The story of that place would also be worth at least 20 bucks from me!....hahaha!

Edit: guessing and hoping? That's a PA or OH warehouse?......
 

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guessing and hoping? That's a PA or OH warehouse?......
I don't know, but there were two big Ordnance Dept depots in Rossford and Columbus. I have Ordnance Dept repack tools from both places. The only two names I saw or heard were Terre Haute Ordnance Depot and Raritan Arsenal, as I noted above.
Agreed Lugz. I'm pretty sure they got permission from the owner and worked out a deal.
They arrived as a *********, with a woman on the camera, but did you see the fourth guy (fifth person) near the end when they were moving pallets asking them if they were interested in the grinder discs? That might've been the owner.
 

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the gal works at hje to the best of my knowledge. she can be heard (she has a very cool and unique voice) and occasionally seen in many of the hje videos. i can only assume she is doing most of the video as that is why she is heard rather than seen. i think she also can be seen "modelling" some of the items available on the website. goggles, safety glasses, hardhats etc.
 

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There is no way they did this without permission. Mostly likely it was a "feel free to pick out what you want and make an offer" kind of deal. They may not be experts on historic tools, but them getting some of these tools means they will be for sale on their web site before too long, which means we get a chance to get some as well.

I have only dreamed of finding something like this. It was probably overwhelming. To be able to see and touch so many historical tools like this is simply amazing.
 

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There is no way they did this without permission. Mostly likely it was a "feel free to pick out what you want and make an offer" kind of deal. They may not be experts on historic tools, but them getting some of these tools means they will be for sale on their web site before too long, which means we get a chance to get some as well.
No one pointed out the fact they intentionally didn't post that vid here. Guess maybe they thought none of the GJ crew would notice?.
 
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Lugz I don't think anyone on here thought you were kidding about the perfect 1-week vacation. We were all just nodding our heads in agreement and hoping we could be part of the team that got to hit that honey hole next!!! :lol_hitti And yeah, I suspected that fifth guy might very well have been the owner.
 
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I don't know, but there were two big Ordnance Dept depots in Rossford and Columbus. I have Ordnance Dept repack tools from both places. The only two names I saw or heard were Terre Haute Ordnance Depot and Raritan Arsenal, as I noted above.
Hmm, my daughter lives about midway between those two locations. At least that is travel time today with the crappy weather today. Let us know when this vacation will be, urban assault vehicles might be able to help. A few more achy back, instead of one really sore one.
 

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You are not familiar with Epstein Day?....July 4 yearly sale?
I've known of Epstein, their story (1933; family run; brick and mortar, too; funny drawings on pkgs; etc) for years, mainly because @jeffmoss26, our annual Garage Sale Thread founder, has always been such a vocal proponent. But I am not a customer (nothing against them, I just don't buy vintage tools online, getting my thrill almost exclusively from picking in the wild), I don't watch the videos or visit the site and don't know the principals by face, I am not used to thinking of the name/place etc in "HJE" acronym form, and I did not put two and two together with the three guys in the video or Tex's title.
We were all just nodding our heads in agreement and hoping we could be part of the team that got to hit that honey hole next!!!
It does take a team! I hit a big barn about 7 years ago and could not have done it without a partner. And just a few years ago I hit the big garage of a guy in western PA who had hit several ORD depots and I did that with a virtual partner (@tin medic), where even the extra set of eyes on texted photos (and half the cost on the lot!) helped.
 

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A bunch of stuff wrapped in cosmoline... UGH.
Spent many an hour at a parts washer cleaning that stuff off old surplus Harley parts we used to buy when I worked for a dealer.
No thanks!
 
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