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mike_dmt

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I've had the Vulcan Migmax 215 for about a year. No problems. Welds great.

AvE's video on YT and a handful of non-sponsored videos that aren't of the "unboxing" type basically cover everything you'd need to know.

My two cents worth of opinion is that it's a fine machine for the money.

+1 for a good helmet though. Buy the best one you can afford.
 

Falcon67

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I recommend that any car guy go straight to TIG unless you are building OFF road thick wall chassis in hurry up mode. You can do so much more with nicer results.
Not hard to learn and in the era of Youtube help is a click away.

The other reason is pretty simple.
MIG throws a lot of sparks around. I worry about that in a home garage. Heck, it worried me in a shop environment that is not solely setup for welding.

Oh, and I vote for the helmet that Miller sells that has the big viewport.

I have a Hobart 140. It's been a workhorse. I should have bought something like the 210 MVP, but. Agree with above about TIG - when I upgrade, it'll be TIG rather than a bigger MIG. And not just because I own a moly chassis race car LOL. A TIG can work a much wider range of metals and thicknesses. Spool gun for aluminum doesn't do it for me, anyway.

As for sparks - the old shop had either 1/4 OSB or nothing over the kraft wall insulation. Welded a LOT of things in that shop with no issues. Have to be aware of what you're doing and take precautions. Same as owning a table saw for many years and still having 10 fingers.
 
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junkyardwarrior

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A lot of times on forums I see fellers getting worked up over welders. Sorta like oil war threads. Well I've owned a few of them and it shouldn't have been that way. A GOOD welder is an investment. A bad welder is just a tool.

Several years back I was faced with a dilemma. Having owned 2 Hobarts, 2 Lincolns, and several HF models (all MIG or MIG converted), I knew that I wanted a MIG but I did NOT want to have to go through the garbage that I had gone through before. Both of the Lincolns failed at one point. WP100 the feed motor died which wasn't cheap but I had to have it for the job I was doing. I traded that welder for an SP130 I believe it was, it was brand new but the owner didn't have 220 service.....which was a little more powerful. The circuit board died in less than a year. Since I didn't buy it at the local welders supply house, they wouldn't give me any help with it other than tell me that the board was dead and that it was $400+ to replace it. That was similar experience I had with all of them. HF welders, if they die, you replace them in their entirety, period. If out of "warranty", YOU get to replace it. If IN warranty, locally there's some hoops to jump through to get 'em to replace it. I certainly didn't want to have to deal with those issues after I moved out to the sticks, where it's an hour drive to anywhere. So in '13 I looked around some more.

What I found was that Hobart 210 and Miller 211 are almost the same welder, with the differences being that the Miller has a little better circuit board, a little better quality transformer assembly, and the feed motor has metal gears in the miller, and plastic in the Hobart. I didn't want another Lincoln based on two failed units that should not have based on the low hour usage. I priced the Hobart 210 at the local TSC store, right at $900. BUT I also found a smoking deal on the Millermatic 211, comes with the welder, leads, el cheapo helmet, and a FREE spoolgun, $1100 and then a $200 mail in rebate, so it came out the same cost as the Hobart. You bet I bought it. It's hotter than 210 amps I believe. MVP. So far I love it. We have a 210 Hobart at work and the Miller seems to weld a little hotter, the feed is smoother, the arc is smoother, drive rollers are of better quality, among many other things.
 
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