hole saws...
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BCreekDave
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Commonly called Greenlee punches. Used frequently in industry when building electrical control boxes
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That is an excellent machine! The 14" Delta and its many "clones" are arguably the most popular wood cutting band saws ever made. They are popular in everything from school "shop classes" to many industrial applications, to folks like us who are garage/shop hobbyists.
If unmodified, that saw uses a 93-1/2" blade. For general purpose wood cutting, a 4 tooth blade offers a good compromise between cutting speed and surface finish.
http://www.sawbladeexpress.com/Prod...12&CatId=ac67edcf-4ff5-472a-a146-81fc8dc80560
Steve.
It's relatively common for those Delta saws to be used with a nominal 6" bolt-in "Riser" extension which increases the distance between the wheels.
If your saw has a bolt in "Riser", then it will take a 105" blade.
ishiboo
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Sweet... got shipping notice mine will be here tomorrow. Thanks Steve M and crew, as well as the OP for bringing us this deal!
Might order a few more odds and ends.
Might order a few more odds and ends.
UPDATE - SawBladeExpress WILL be offering empty blow-molded cases for sale. Thank you, gampt 945 for the suggestion. We have hundreds of empty cases in stock. They will be listed for $2 each, just like the hole saws.
It might take a couple of days to get these items listed on the site, as our 2 SBE folks are extremely busy trying to fill the backlog of orders today.
Thanks again,
Steve.
Rewind97
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Still looking for anyone who might like to go in with me to save on shipping.
Locker537
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Thanks Steve! Very much appreciated. I knew I should have waited for your response before putting in my order.
GForceJunky
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Steve,
Is there any reason to order the bimetal over the carbide tipped? Will the bimetal produce smoother/cleaner edges than the carbide tipped?
I know the carbide tipped will handle metal better so I'd rather just 'kill 2 birds with one stone' if you will.
Is there any reason to order the bimetal over the carbide tipped? Will the bimetal produce smoother/cleaner edges than the carbide tipped?
I know the carbide tipped will handle metal better so I'd rather just 'kill 2 birds with one stone' if you will.
GForceJunky
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Also, can anyone seem to make an account/check their cart/etc. right now? The whole site seems to be locking up on me.
jjcook
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I've never used large hole saws: I have an upcoming task of installing some 4" recessed lights in a poplar coffered ceiling that I'm building in my home; for the larger > 4" hole saws do I need to use a drill with a side handle to manage torquing (when/if the bit binds) or can I just go slowly to avoid injury? If not, I'll hold off on installing the soffit boards until the hole saws arrive and plan to use my drill press instead.
2manytools
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If you had a side-handle, it would be helpful. Part of the reason a person might be using a drill with a side-handle, is that it has more power/torque for that size hole. Typically only drills with enough torque require a side-handle.
There is usually an optimal speed (rpm) for the hole saw to for faster cutting / longer life. I know Milwaukee includes a sheet in their hole saw kits. Not that it won't cut otherwise, just longer blade life. Also remember to keep pulling the saw out to remove the saw-dust & keep from burning up the blade.
06 DIESEL
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Maybe surprising, maybe not, but I have always used bi-metal hole saws. My experience with Carbide Tipped is very limited. For plain carbon steel, aluminum, wood, plastic, etc - I've always had good luck with the bi-metal, and haven't seen the need to pay the extra $$ (even though we make them) for the CT hole saws.
Slow speed and good lubrication are the key to extending bi-metal hole saw life. CT will tolerate higher temperatures at the tooth tip, but if you keep the rpm's down and use your favorite cutting oil, both will work just fine.
One thing that a lot of folks wouldn't know unless they were in the business is that most CT hole saws are somewhere in the range of 0.100" more "shallow" than an equivalent bi-metal hole saw. That factor is due to the overall width of the starting stock for CT vs bi-metal blades. If added depth of cut is important, then the bi-metal has a slight advantage.
Steve.
My set of Bi-metal came in on Friday. Now to find drawer space for all of these.
A lot of different sizes there. Be sure to post back in 10 years to let us know how many you used.
j p smith
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I am happy to hear that folks are happy with their orders! The response to this offer has been WAYYY bigger than expected, which is fantastic. To put this in perspective, prior to this offer, we may have processed somewhere in the range of 5-10 orders per day. Based on the response to the hole saw closeout, we are processing somewhere more in the range of 30+ orders per day.
We are processing orders as quickly as possible, trying to get everyone's stuff out ASAP. Here is a quick set of pics of the orders processed and packed yesterday:
We are processing orders as quickly as possible, trying to get everyone's stuff out ASAP. Here is a quick set of pics of the orders processed and packed yesterday:
Chuckster in NJ
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Received my order today! No pix, because you all know what a hole saw looks like and here is my "product review"
QUALITY HOLE SAWS! I purchased one of each size bi-metal along with some accessories they had on their website and the quality is excellent so buy with confidence!
Can't wait for the larger sizes to come back on their website....... Too bad I could not have had them on my order to save on shipping costs.
QUALITY HOLE SAWS! I purchased one of each size bi-metal along with some accessories they had on their website and the quality is excellent so buy with confidence!
Can't wait for the larger sizes to come back on their website....... Too bad I could not have had them on my order to save on shipping costs.
A wiseguy (or wise guy) once said...
"A lot of different sizes there. Be sure to post back in 10 years to let us know how many you used."
Don't forget his...
IMO...
This has to have been the buy of the century. Too bad they "threw in the towel" BUT businesses make decisions on directions they choose to go. Hopefully other parts of the business can pick up the slack for the employees and they can keep working.
For those that have yet to figure this out...
(As of yesterday) The smaller missing sizes can be found in the Journeyman's Kit. So purchase a Journeyman's Kit along with the other sizes you might want and you can achieve (almost) a consecutive set of hole saws!
(As of yesterday) The smaller missing sizes can be found in the Journeyman's Kit. So purchase a Journeyman's Kit along with the other sizes you might want and you can achieve (almost) a consecutive set of hole saws!
Here's a prime opportunity for anyone who might want to get into the hole saw manufacturing business.... we would be more than happy to sell the entire production line (punch presses, all tooling, raw materials, welding lines, stamping logos, paint booth, etc). You could set yourself up to make a lifetime's worth of hole saws, and even print your own name on them.
Pennies on the dollar...
Pennies on the dollar...
Oh, yes - we have been manufacturing in Pevely, MO since 1993, and have grown every year. We have never laid anyone off.
We are re-allocating floor space that was occupied by the hole saw line to expand our core business and keep growing!
Thanks again,
Steve.
2manytools
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Was the hole saw business slowing down, comparatively, or maybe not growing as fast in relation to your other lines? Or do you need more labor to continue both?
The biggest issue is that our process for manufacturing the hole saws, as well as the related equipment, is outdated.
Some of our competitors still have hole saw lines in the USA, but those are highly automated. An automated hole saw line is a very expensive proposition. The rest of the competition has moved, primarily to India or China.
Our people and our equipment are still capable of making hole saws as well as anyone in the world, but it's just about impossible to compete with highly automated processes and/or overseas labor.
Making a big investment to modernize our production line was not justified by the very small profit margin in a hole saw. Obviously, we can't compete with the labor market in India or China, so we decided to re-allocate our resources to product lines that keep people employed here, and where we stand a better chance of making a little money.
Steve.
Some of our competitors still have hole saw lines in the USA, but those are highly automated. An automated hole saw line is a very expensive proposition. The rest of the competition has moved, primarily to India or China.
Our people and our equipment are still capable of making hole saws as well as anyone in the world, but it's just about impossible to compete with highly automated processes and/or overseas labor.
Making a big investment to modernize our production line was not justified by the very small profit margin in a hole saw. Obviously, we can't compete with the labor market in India or China, so we decided to re-allocate our resources to product lines that keep people employed here, and where we stand a better chance of making a little money.
Steve.
2manytools
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Thanks. Easy enough economics to understand. Glad to hear the over-all continued success of a small American company. keep it up!
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Wonder when the molded cases will make it to the website?
06 DIESEL
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Just out of curiosity, how many SF was the hole saw portion of your production line? If someone was to buy everything from you would you also pass along supplier information as well as possible sources of selling them?
Absolutely, we would share all the raw material (toothed strip and caps), engineering drawings, supplier information, historic customer data, etc.
I'll get a SF measurement from the facility / maintenance manager tomorrow.
Steve.
I ordered a small maintenance kit, the quality is tool truck quality so if you are still on the fence jump in and grab some hole saws. Have no issue waiting a bit , this is an great deal all considered. Thanks to the OP and to jetmugg for the deal.
doan
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It looks like these guys are the OEM for several brands including Mac. I ordered a lot, they were labeled with different brands, a few of them Mac Tools.
RickP
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Steve - Thanks for passing along the info about a successful American company, and best of luck with growing your core business. I ordered a few bandsaw blades along with the hole saws to take advantage of the free shipping, and the quality of both looks excellent!
kd3pc - Thanks for posting this. I needed a couple big hole saws, but I was waiting to pull the trigger at the local big box. I was having trouble justifying the expense for something I might use twice. But with this deal, I was able to stock up on a range of big sizes, as well as some CT saws for masonry walls.
I just received my order today, so the overall delivery time was 20 days - well worth the wait. SBE has excellent customer service - one size was out-of-stock and they gave me the option of a refund or swapping sizes before they were shipped out.
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I placed order 17 May, rec'd it today UPS. Really nice stuff. So, has anyone thought about buying the hole saw portion of the business yet?
These would be a great product to sell on Amazon via FBA. I am a small seller on Amazon, so could provide that expertise.
These would be a great product to sell on Amazon via FBA. I am a small seller on Amazon, so could provide that expertise.
I placed an order on 8/22 and rec'd it today. Nice quality. Super nice guys there. I got a lot of sizes. I'm now spending my commuting time thinking about the best way to organize and store all of these, plus all my other hole saws.
Qrazy
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Well for those with storage issues, I came up with this many years ago and it works great. just throwing it out there.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269267&highlight=hole+saw
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269267&highlight=hole+saw
Chuckster in NJ
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When you have a lot of hole saws they get heavy (and I mean HEAVY) so I put mine in a ammo can along with the arbors. These ammo cans are able to handle heavy items without failing. I also use the cans for storage of chain.
W0rLDWaR4
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Thanks for the tip!