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eightlitermopar

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Since this is a building forum, I thought I would ask the question here.

Ok, so I am planning for some home addition stuff to happen in the next couple of years. The house is barely over 1000 square feet and we will need some growing room. I must say I am completely shell shocked at how expensive it is. Adding 600 square feet of open room could cost $60,000? WTF? :eyecrazy:

What do new houses cost to build? Millions? :willy_nil (Insert obvious sarcasm here)

I can understand the cost for concrete slab and stuff like that, but I want to do as much as possible myself. How hard could it be? Any encouraging stories out there about home additions?
 
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Custom building, whether it is adding a room or building a whole house usually starts at $125/sq ft. and the sky is the limit, depending on just how custom it gets.
Production built homes (tract houses) tend to run well under $100/sq ft to build to the base model specs.

If you have some carpentry experience, it isn't that hard to add a ground-floor room.
 

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We are having an addition put on our house now. I opted to have a GC do the work, planning etc. Hindsight I could have GC'd it myself I think, as there is still a fair amount of stress involved. We are adding 900 sq. ft. Of living space and 900 sq. feet of garage in a 2 story 30x30 addition. The total cost after all said and done will be just under $80k. That doesn't include grass and landscaping which I will be doing myself. I thought it was fair especially after receiving some estimates over $100k.
 

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Tieing I to a existing home is a lot harder then building from scratch. You need to take in to account your existing hvac and electrical may not be beefy enough to accomadate the extra square footage either.
 

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I built a slab house addition right after high school. I added 1100sqft. This was 5 years ago so bear with me on the price break down.
3k in concrete.
2k in hvac upgrades.
1k in new 200a service and electrical.
$500 in doors and windows (new old stock craigslist)
$1k in trusses.
2.5k in lumber for walls, all sheathing, nails and assorted strongtie hangers.
3k to re roof entire house 2500 sqft after addition.
3k in vinyl siding and house wrap(redid entire house).
$250 in dump fees.
$800 in insulation (attic and walls)
1k in bathroom acc(toilet sink shower stall)
$800 in flooring.
2k in misc done to original house.
$250 permits
Total was right at 21k that's all DIY except for drywall and concrete finishing. I traded rebuilding a wrecker body(he bought parts) for drywall materials and labor. I shopped around for everything. It took me 6 months to finish it completely.
 

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Would anybody believe that I put a 500 sq ft second story addition with a full bathroom, complete new roof, and a 12' x 18' second story deck on my house just by myself in under 3 months for under $10,000?
 

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Would anybody believe that I put a 500 sq ft second story addition with a full bathroom, complete new roof, and a 12' x 18' second story deck on my house just by myself in under 3 months for under $10,000?

LOL, nope. Just going by the material "base costs" for middle of the road quality products. Bathroom alone is $2500 in my area for a standard bath, nothing fancy, just functional. Decking material for standard green treat and given the height of a second story so long 6x6's to notch in the beam $19sqft...so for yours $4100. Roofing materials only for a standard pitch gable $690. Framiing materials, electrical supplies (wire, switches, outlets, GFCI circuits, lights, exhaust fan and ducting) insulation, drywall, plumbing supplies, windows, doors, millwork, flooring, stairs, permits......even doing 100% of the labor yourself, unless you got everything off craigslist for free, I find it almost impossible to say at the end of the day, when EVERYTHING is 100% accounted for, not just big ticket items, EVERYTHING, all the little nickel and dime BS that goes into making the big ticket items work/function/meet code....seems extremely far fetched IMO. But I've only been a GC for 2 decades and grew up in a construction based family so what do I know LOL.

Cant remember any project we ever did, even family projects such as yours even 25-30yrs ago that "only" had that much in for a COMPLETE code compliant addition.
 

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We're 95% done with our 30x30 garage addition that includes a full living area second story and a full two story connector between the house and garage. Our main house is only 960 sq ft. Our addition is adding roughly 2400 sq ft. Cost at this point is around $140,000 and we are the general contractors and did a ton of the work ourselves. It ain't cheap, but we're not cheating either. Only the best. Check out my signature for a little light reading.:rocker:
 

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I'm in the middle of doing a 2-story addition to my house right now....

Click on the link in my signature for details....

Same boat...existing house is 1026 sq ft...3 bed, 1 bathroom...2 adults, 3 kids 1 bathroom.....2 cats, 1 bathroom.....oh, did I mention we only have one bathroom?

I'm doing ALL the work myself...well...most of it anyway...I farm out the ugly stuff...roof...stucco...foundation...

When it is all said and done...I think I'll be coming in at around $65/sq ft on my costs....and we are not going cheap on things...my real money savings was in doing the framing, electrical and plumbing myself....

Just because it's taken a year and a half so far is a minor detail....adds to the 'experience'....
 

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Would anybody believe that I put a 500 sq ft second story addition with a full bathroom, complete new roof, and a 12' x 18' second story deck on my house just by myself in under 3 months for under $10,000?

And I bet it looks like it's worth about $10k......

Did you pull permits?

We need pictures otherwise....your blowing smoke...
 

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My advice, unless youre real handy sell the small house and get into a bigger one. I didnt take that advice and Ive always been sorry.
 

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At $100/SF you're getting off easy although I can't say that with a ton of confidence as I have no idea of what sort of finishes etc.. you're doing.

For a standard, cheap, meet code and get out, type of build, yeah, you could get by cheaper. If you are adding extras like upgraded flooring, etc...and want it done well, the price will rise. Bathrooms/kitchens add a lot to overall costs as well. And the power/HVAC can add a bunch.

I'm currently doing an addition on my home. I'm acting as my own GC. It's not easy particularly with a full time job. I'll come in around $100/SF compared to the GC's that were coming in at ~$150/SF. And their prices reflected me doing most of the finish work so all in all it'll be worth it. By and large, your biggest expenses will be electrical, mechanical, plumbing, foundation, and framing. You may get off easy on those depending on your current set up or you may be looking at service upgrades, etc...

So yeah, $100/SF, not bad.
 
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Thanks for the input. I am not really sure what I was expecting, to be honest.

We got the house for a good deal, 1050 square foot home on one acre for 45,000. The location is right where I want it.

I just have a hard time swallowing one room costing more than the whole house.

Oh well, I'm learning. :)

eightlitermopar
 

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I built my house 4 yrs ago with the intention of refinishing my attached 3 car garage into living space. It was an additional $25/sqft to build 32x24 garage. When I built my 48x44 detached, I refinished it myself for about $7k. I would recommend this to anyone building a house.
 

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$45,000? You can't even get an empty lot for that here. An acre would be like $120,000.

$60,000 sounds perfectly reasonable if you're hiring it all out. If you are DIY-ing it, it will cost probably half that.
 

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Thanks for the input. I am not really sure what I was expecting, to be honest.

We got the house for a good deal, 1050 square foot home on one acre for 45,000. The location is right where I want it.

I just have a hard time swallowing one room costing more than the whole house.

Oh well, I'm learning. :)

eightlitermopar

Right now, the cost of existing housing is way, way down. You should have bought 100K worth rather than 45K. You would get a lot more for your dollar. And not a fixer upper. Buy with all the amenities in perfect shape.
 
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Right now, the cost of existing housing is way, way down. You should have bought 100K worth rather than 45K. You would get a lot more for your dollar. And not a fixer upper. Buy with all the amenities in perfect shape.

We bought the house for many reasons, and we took a 2nd on our existing house to buy it. I would have loved to buy bigger, but it just wasn't in the budget at the time 3 years ago, and the deal just fell in our lap.

All of this on one income. We will make all of our ideas happen, I am just learning it is taking a lot longer than I thought.
 
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Like the others said $100-$125 a sq. ft. is pretty standard around here. One area where I found big savings is check your local building surplus type stores. Bathroom vanities, doors, hardwood flooring etc can be had substantially cheaper than the big box stores. In many cases it is much better quality than the box stores. As an example we did our whole downstairs in solid #2 grade hickory(has knots) pre-finished hardwood for $1.49 a sq. ft. YMMV.
 

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Well we are in the middle of a 600 sf addition with basement. I estimate about $0.90/sf. That is with crown mold and pretty nice stair rails. I hired a real reasonable contractor and did the digging, electrical, painting, basement plumbing, and trim carpentry myself. Plan for it to take more than you estimate. My guess is we will spend another 10K on bringing the kit/din area up to snuff. That is phase 2. Lot of time involved in doing it yourself. Just a caution, check with your inspectors, adding a bedroom may require a new septic system. We added an office.:thumbup:
 

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That used to be a standard price around here but with our booming housing market that has been building (no pen intended) for the past 10 years, you are lucky to get work done under $200 sq/ft :(
 

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Would anybody believe that I put a 500 sq ft second story addition with a full bathroom, complete new roof, and a 12' x 18' second story deck on my house just by myself in under 3 months for under $10,000?

Having brought a 12x6 bathroom from studs to complete including all plumbing/electrical and fixtures for $1000 - and have it look really good - I'll say yep, can be done.

To the OP - construction around here runs $125~the moon depending on finishes.
 

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Thanks for the input. I am not really sure what I was expecting, to be honest.

We got the house for a good deal, 1050 square foot home on one acre for 45,000. The location is right where I want it.

I just have a hard time swallowing one room costing more than the whole house.

Oh well, I'm learning. :)

eightlitermopar

After seeing what you paid, I'm driving to Utah to SLAP you! You ****. 45K won't even get you a one car garage in Los Angeles....
 

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Would anybody believe that I put a 500 sq ft second story addition with a full bathroom, complete new roof, and a 12' x 18' second story deck on my house just by myself in under 3 months for under $10,000?

Two years ago I would believe that. When I first bought my house I had planned to do a 1000 sq ft second floor for around $30000. Materials have doubled in price since then. I wont be doing it.
 

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LOL, nope...


Five years ago I gutted our entire 2nd floor (small 100+ year old house) and doubled the size. So it went from 12 x 26 to 24 x 26. So I may have slightly misspoken on the size of my build, I completely gutted the existing second floor to the exterior wall and then doubled the size with new construction. I spent our entire tax return on the structural lumber for the addition and deck so the cost was under $5800, this does not include any 2x4’s. 2x4’s were all free off craigslist plus I had a bunch in my lumber pile. All sheathing was purchased new but I don’t remember what I paid exactly, maybe $700 (10 sheets ¾ OSB tg @ $20 = $200 and about 40 sheets ½” OSB @ $12.50 = $500). All the drywall for the project cost me 72 cents a sheet at Home Depot. They were selling off an entire stack that somebody sheared a corner off. So with mud and a couple rolls of tape I was under $50. Electrical, all free left over from various jobs I have done over the years and I still have lots left in my store room. I bought some of the PVC sanitary plumbing and used a lot of what I had left from other jobs as well so I might have spent $150. PEX was mostly free as well because I also have tons of that in my store room. I bought all the insulation (in new condition) from two separate guys on craigslist as well as a window or two and the cost was really negligible, maybe $300. Windows and Plumbing fixtures were all bought at a 2nd’s supply house here in town for literally pennies on the dollar. For example a new vinyl window costs me between $75 and $100 depending on the size. I purchased a new steel tub, toilet and 36” vanity top from this same place for under $300. The tile in my bathroom was all on closeout for 50 cents a square foot. I was given two windows for helping a friend build a shed. The roofing cost me $27 a bundle for the shingles, so that plus the miscellaneous roofing materials was all under $1100. Siding cost me around $220 for 1 ½ cases as I was able to reuse a lot of the existing siding. One exterior French door cost me $420 at home depot. Carpet was less than $100 per room as I used remnants bought at a different discount/seconds type store.

That alone adds up to about $8750, the rest of the hardware, trim and paint came in under the $10,000 mark. I didn’t include the cost of permits because that came out of a different pot/budget(purchased the year before) but if I recall they were around the $600 dollar mark. I am sure of the total amount only because before we began the wife and I made a deal not to go over that mark because we ultimately are going to bulldoze the entire house and start from scratch.

Here are a few pictures but I didn't have room to include the walk in closet and all of the daughter’s room... (Oh, I waterproofed the underside of the deck the following year so that cost wasn't considered either...)


Having brought a 12x6 bathroom from studs to complete including all plumbing/electrical and fixtures for $1000 - and have it look really good - I'll say yep, can be done...

Thanks! :thumbup:
 

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Well we are in the middle of a 600 sf addition with basement. I estimate about $0.90/sf. That is with crown mold and pretty nice stair rails. I hired a real reasonable contractor and did the digging, electrical, painting, basement plumbing, and trim carpentry myself. Plan for it to take more than you estimate. My guess is we will spend another 10K on bringing the kit/din area up to snuff. That is phase 2. Lot of time involved in doing it yourself. Just a caution, check with your inspectors, adding a bedroom may require a new septic system. We added an office.:thumbup:

I think 90 cents per sq ft is optimistic LOL
 

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Five years ago I gutted our entire 2nd floor (small 100+ year old house) and doubled the size. So it went from 12 x 26 to 24 x 26. So I may have slightly misspoken on the size of my build, I completely gutted the existing second floor to the exterior wall and then doubled the size with new construction. I spent our entire tax return on the structural lumber for the addition and deck so the cost was under $5800, this does not include any 2x4’s. 2x4’s were all free off craigslist plus I had a bunch in my lumber pile. All sheathing was purchased new but I don’t remember what I paid exactly, maybe $700 (10 sheets ¾ OSB tg @ $20 = $200 and about 40 sheets ½” OSB @ $12.50 = $500). All the drywall for the project cost me 72 cents a sheet at Home Depot. They were selling off an entire stack that somebody sheared a corner off. So with mud and a couple rolls of tape I was under $50. Electrical, all free left over from various jobs I have done over the years and I still have lots left in my store room. I bought some of the PVC sanitary plumbing and used a lot of what I had left from other jobs as well so I might have spent $150. PEX was mostly free as well because I also have tons of that in my store room. I bought all the insulation (in new condition) from two separate guys on craigslist as well as a window or two and the cost was really negligible, maybe $300. Windows and Plumbing fixtures were all bought at a 2nd’s supply house here in town for literally pennies on the dollar. For example a new vinyl window costs me between $75 and $100 depending on the size. I purchased a new steel tub, toilet and 36” vanity top from this same place for under $300. The tile in my bathroom was all on closeout for 50 cents a square foot. I was given two windows for helping a friend build a shed. The roofing cost me $27 a bundle for the shingles, so that plus the miscellaneous roofing materials was all under $1100. Siding cost me around $220 for 1 ½ cases as I was able to reuse a lot of the existing siding. One exterior French door cost me $420 at home depot. Carpet was less than $100 per room as I used remnants bought at a different discount/seconds type store.

That alone adds up to about $8750, the rest of the hardware, trim and paint came in under the $10,000 mark. I didn’t include the cost of permits because that came out of a different pot/budget(purchased the year before) but if I recall they were around the $600 dollar mark. I am sure of the total amount only because before we began the wife and I made a deal not to go over that mark because we ultimately are going to bulldoze the entire house and start from scratch.

Here are a few pictures but I didn't have room to include the walk in closet and all of the daughter’s room... (Oh, I waterproofed the underside of the deck the following year so that cost wasn't considered either...)




Thanks! :thumbup:

You got some killer deals for sure but to say stuff you had already purchased was free is not really an accurate assessment of the costs because you paid for it at some point in time. I understand where you are coming from but to say your paid x number of dollars without including those costs is fudging the numbers a bit. Still impressive though.
 

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Doing most of the work myself, I built our 24'x24' Family Room on for $17,000 or right at $30/sq.ft.

I built my wife's building which is 20'x20' for $8000 or right at $20/sq.ft.

And my garage, doing most everything ourself, 28'x36' with 6' overhangs on the front and side for $13,000 or about 13/sq.ft.

You can save a bundle doing most of the work. Even if you can build things yourself, you can still save some money by doing some things to help out. Mounting electrical boxes, running wire, drilling the studs to run wire, putting nail plates up, fastening the overhead light fixtures up. I know that the contractors around here will adjust their prices depending on what you can do to help out.
 
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After seeing what you paid, I'm driving to Utah to SLAP you! You ****. 45K won't even get you a one car garage in Los Angeles....

You can see why I jumped on that deal. The property is actually in Florida and right next to family (which I actually get along with very well). It also has 2 acres of property with it.

So....here I am trying to figure out where our future lies with this house.

I didn't want to go into it blind, but this is obviously phase one and I am figuring out how much it will cost.

Thanks guys!

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Here is a picture of the house within the last year. It's not a bad house, it just has 1 bathroom.

I figured while we are building, we should put a bigger family room on it.

For anyone who is interested :)
 

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My eyes got wide at $125/sq foot too, considering my 2 bedroom 1 bath 1,000 square foot house with 1 car garage on 1/4 acre is worth about 50 grand. Doubling its size would cost me another $125k!

My wife keeps talking about building on and I'd like a real garage, but before I spend anything but maintenance, I'm MOVING. For 125k I could get a really nice 3 betroom with 2 baths, 2 living rooms, 2 car garage, and an acre or two, and be farther out of town. And have the 50 grand I'd get for selling my current house to build my dream garage...
 

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We've spent nearly 6 months working thru a variance application so we can then apply for a permit to build an addition to our home. Besides the town variance we have to get permission from a group that has control over development in an area called the Highlands

All this over ground coverage, the Highlands act states minimum lot size is 12 acres, we have 4 1/4 so we are in violation. Our town requires no more that 5% of the lot have impervious coverage. The arrangement of the house on our lot requires a long driveway, the driveway alone represents 2.8% of the coverage. The addition will put us at 8.42, the Land Use Board told us that if we collect all the water from the roof of the house in dry wells or a retention basin they would issue a variance to us.

The engineer has come up with a plan, a retention basin for leaders on the rear of the house and 5 dry wells for leaders on the front of the house. I just can't wait to find out what this will cost.
 

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$45,000? You can't even get an empty lot for that here. An acre would be like $120,000.

$60,000 sounds perfectly reasonable if you're hiring it all out. If you are DIY-ing it, it will cost probably half that.


Location, Location, Location. I've lived places were $45k will by you almost 500 acres. I've also lived places were $120k will not buy you a parking space. Same with building costs. $100 a sq ft sounds about right to me for GC, $65-$70 if I'm doing it myself. That again depends on where you live and who you know.
 

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My advice, unless youre real handy sell the small house and get into a bigger one. I didnt take that advice and Ive always been sorry.

Best advice out there hands down... Unless you live on primo real estate, there is no reason to do a major addition to a house like that.

Anytime I am house shopping and come across a house with a major addition done after initial building, I quickly leave as I don't know if the work was done correctly or not.
 

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Right now, the cost of existing housing is way, way down. You should have bought 100K worth rather than 45K. You would get a lot more for your dollar. And not a fixer upper. Buy with all the amenities in perfect shape.

Best advice out there hands down... Unless you live on primo real estate, there is no reason to do a major addition to a house like that.

Anytime I am house shopping and come across a house with a major addition done after initial building, I quickly leave as I don't know if the work was done correctly or not.

For me, I think I'd rather find a neigborhood and lot that I like, and make the house suit my needs, than buy based entirely on $ per ft.

I'd say $100per ft isn't too bad, but it's really hard to say without a lot of details. Will it be as simple as building a new room, or will the existing structure have to be modified to make it work?
 
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