Hooking up 220 welding machine
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twistedstang
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I appreciate the reply. Thanks!
Chris Stapley
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wyliesdiesels
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The bottom (EGC/ground) terminal is labeled green on the black plastic
nadogail
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If the outlet your welder Will be plugged into is fed by a main panel the white and the green would normally be connected to the same bus bar, in which case, IMHO, they can both be landed together .
Other people may have different opinions. but my welder came from the factory with a three conductor power cord and a three prong plug.
Other people may have different opinions. but my welder came from the factory with a three conductor power cord and a three prong plug.
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wyliesdiesels
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you dont need a neutral for a 240v circuit or receptacle so no need to land both nor is the lug rated for 2 conductors... just cap the neutral
dave*99
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And the guy that converts that main panel into a sub someday perhaps when he adds a transfer switch and generator would have no idea you tied neutral and ground together at that receptacle.
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twistedstang
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The grounds are all on one bar to the left and the nuetrals are all on a bar to the right in the panel.
wyliesdiesels
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main service panel or subpanel?
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twistedstang
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Honestly I'm not 100% sure. I do know the main power goes to the garage before the house, just not sure if it goes through that breaker first
wyliesdiesels
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post pictures
Does it change the answer to the OP somehow?
Cruzan80
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Only if he actually needs 240V instead ...
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twistedstang
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I still don't know why we went down this rabbit hole, but that appears to be a sub panel. Snap a pic of the meter, I bet you have a disconnect or meter/main.
Also, is that a leg?
mike93lx
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That's a clean panel!
Cap the neutral in the receptacle box
I'd leave it landed on the neutral bar in the panel.
Cap the neutral in the receptacle box
I'd leave it landed on the neutral bar in the panel.
mike93lx
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A couple posts and not much of a rabbit hole and someone that doesn't know the difference between a main and a sub can very likely miss something worth pointing out
You don't also have a panel leg?
mike93lx
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Call your poco!
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twistedstang
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I found this old pic before drywall. The grey wiring to the left is what feeds my house from the meter.
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twistedstang
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And yeah. Its a leg glass from a bar. Lol
mike93lx
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This is entirely for pcustom's sake... Is there a breaker outside at the meter?
I assume the meter is on the back of that wall?
Grab a pic of that if you can. No need to open anything, just a pic of the meter and general area. You probably have a meter/main with 2 breakers (house and garage)
WTF, I'm not the one who started this...
OP needs to just cap the neutral in the receptacle box. The first reply could have closed the thread
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twistedstang
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The Generarac switch was installed with the thought I would add a generator. I haven't yet.
mike93lx
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Interesting, so no breaker. Feels like a long run to the main panel without any protection
The Generarac switch was installed with the thought I would add a generator. I haven't yet.
Yankeefarmer
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It could have, except this is the GJ forum. It doesn’t matter how many simple, direct, accurate answers are posted, someone will come along with a response that heads things in an unnecessary direction.mike93lx
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Enjoy the ride!
The Generarac switch was installed with the thought I would add a generator. I haven't yet.
Purely for @mike93lx benefit, that box on the left is marked service disconnect. I bet there is at least 1 breaker in there. Not sure about box on right
If we're really going down this rabbit hole we need the last and right covers open
mike93lx
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I did see that, assumed it was solely generator-related, but you may be right that it has a breaker.
I'm really thinking about overcurrent protection, not just a disconnect
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There's some nuance that I (and at least 1 panel mfg) forgot related to phrasing of disconnect/OCP.
For example, my meter/main is labeled as main disconnect but has a 200A breaker and 8(?) slots. Can't recall how the generac panel is marked at camp, but the breaker in it functions as the main.
wyliesdiesels
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Those generac panels are most likely ATSs and would be the main service panels. the one on the left feeds the panel in the garage. the one on the right has the gray SER coming out of it next to the garage panel and feeds the panel inside the house
so both the garage panel and house panel are subpanels. The dual generac ATSs are the mains... and there is protection at the ATSs
mike93lx
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Thanks
I wonder who ran the broom when it was all said and done...And the service entrance conduit isn't plumb either....
mike93lx
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Can we get an angle on that? Feels like depth should be checked as well, based on that sweep.And the service entrance conduit isn't plumb either....
We have some work to do, boys!
It wasnt @sparky 1971 , I'm sure.
