Hose bib in garage.

[Chadwilliam1]

Hello, I love in Cincinnati, Ohio. So it did get cold but rarely drops into single digits. I have a 3 car garage with insulated, walls and doors but the attic is not.

I want to add a hose in my garage to wash my car on the winter. I have to drill the the concrete wall of my garage which runs up about 8 inches, before it turns to drywall.

So I need to drill through that 8 inches to get into th basement. Can a frost free hose bib be installed upside down? If not what are my options for adding this hose bib in my garage? Or do I mount it normally with a 90 degree fitting on the end of it.


Thanks.

 

[BillK]

Is this an attached garage ? If so you probably don't even need a frost free type of hose bib. I have a sink in my attached garage that is up against the house side and it has never frozen. Mine is the same as yours. All walls insulated but not above the ceiling. Our weather should be pretty similar.

 

[Chadwilliam1]

Yes it is attatched. I have never noticed anything frozen in the garage. I keep jugs of water in the garage and never noticed them Frozen.

 

[firebirdparts]

A frost free hose bib mounted upside down wouldn't be frost free. It wouldn't drain. But maybe you don't need one anyway.

 

[HoosierMark]

If you have 8 inches of concrete you should have the floor joist resting on the concrete. Instead of drilling thru the concrete, try putting a hole thru the rim joist. Then use a frost free hydrant that will keep the water in the basement until you turn it on. They make them in various lengths 12-18 inches or so if I remember correctly. You could also add a sink if you wanted. I used a laundry sink and just put foam insulation board around the bottom to keep it from freezing. I live 40 miles west of you and had mine in an unheated garage without problems. You may also want to consider a small electric heater for the garage. I have one I leave set at about 40 degrees. It is great for getting the snow off the cars in the winter.

 

[Jlbc212]

Put a short length of coupler hose on the bib and mount the hose bib as they are normally mounted facing down.

 

[lightning struck]

Instead of drilling thru the concrete, try putting a hole thru the rim joist. Then use a frost free hydrant that will keep the water in the basement until you turn it on.

This is exactly how I did mine. I had a 4ft tall half wall, so the bib is alittle higher than normal. At first I didn't know if I liked it, but after using it for a summer, I like the fact that I don't have to bend over all the time to turn it on and off.

I was lucky enough to have a water line that ran across the house, that only went to the bibs on each side. So while I had the water shut off, I put in a ball valve that feeds the line. So in the winter I just turn that off, and drain the entire line to keep anything from freezing.

 

[finn]

Before the invention of the frost free hose bib, houses had a globe valve in the basement to seasonally shut off the water to the outside hose bib (boiler valve).

Shut off the water in the basement in the fall, and open the hose valve to drain the couple feet of pipe to prevent freezing.

 

[Chadwilliam1]

Thanks for the ideas. Finn, I want it specifically to use in the winter.

I think I like the drilling through the Rim joist idea. I don't mind bending overm. I would rather bend over than repair a broken line. My concern is more about the clearance for the hose bib than anything.


Thanks guys.

 

[86turbodsl]

I have an attached garage on the house, and a frost free hot/cold faucet on the house wall in the garage. It does get cold enough in my garage to occasionally freeze water, and the garage is fully insulated. The hot/cold was a big upgrade for me. As long as i remember to drain the hose, it's usable for car washes in the winter. If i forget to drain the hose, all bets are off until the hose comes inside.

 

[K'ledgeBldr]

I'm sure there's an easier way to route the water line(s), than drilling/coring a concrete wall.

But by your description of the construction of the garage walls, it begs the question- why on earth would one insulate walls and not the ceiling/attic? Considering most heat gain and loss is through the ceiling/roof, insulating walls is almost a waste.

 

[ford33]

Like others have already said, put the frost free hose bib in the rim joist if possible and put a ball valve shut-off in the basement so you can shut it off when you need to do maintenance or to sure nothing breaks in the super cold days.

What are you going to do with the water flowing out of the garage in the winter? It will be very slippery on the driveway and your door may freeze shut to the ground.

I live in Chicago and have a frost free hose bib in my attached garage. Once in 20 years it was so cold that water did freeze in the garage so while it is not likely to freeze, all it takes is one very cold winter to make a water mess and cost a fortune to repair.

 

[Showkey]

If your going through the effort........hot and cold valve or mixing would be really nice feature. Can be as simple as valves in the warm basement before the line to the faucet.

 

[4Kings]

I'm going to do this as well but I want/need a utility sink.

 

[regguy1]

Hello, I love in Cincinnati, Ohio. So it did get cold but rarely drops into single digits. I have a 3 car garage with insulated, walls and doors but the attic is not.

I want to add a hose in my garage to wash my car on the winter. I have to drill the the concrete wall of my garage which runs up about 8 inches, before it turns to drywall.

So I need to drill through that 8 inches to get into th basement. Can a frost free hose bib be installed upside down? If not what are my options for adding this hose bib in my garage? Or do I mount it normally with a 90 degree fitting on the end of it.


Thanks.

Get a hose bib with hot and cold, I have one outside and it comes in very handy. Might be a bit more work but you won't regret it. I used PEX to install mine and it was easier than copper. Here is one model: http://www.woodfordmfg.com/woodford/Wall_Faucet_Pages/model-22.html

 

[larry4406]

Get a hose bib with hot and cold, I have one outside and it comes in very handy. Might be a bit more work but you won't regret it. I used PEX to install mine and it was easier than copper. Here is one model: http://www.woodfordmfg.com/woodford/Wall_Faucet_Pages/model-22.html

I have the Woodward V22 and don't like it. Pressure drop thru fixture is too much. Mine is mounted outside. Cannot run a yard sprinkler off it.

 

[LNKMK8]

How hard would it be to insulate the attic? Seems like a low cost - low effort project that would yield big results if the rest of the garage is insulated.

I have a utility sink in our garage - I was able to tap into the clothes washer line that sat in the same wall, so hot/cold was pretty easy. The garage is heated, but it rarely kicks on if I'm not out there with all the insulation and being attached to the house.

 

[6768rogues]

I once worked on a house for an appliance repairman. He used the temperature selector solenoid valve from a washing machine for his garage hose bib. The valve was indoors, and two wall switches in the garage let him chose cold, hot, or both for tempered water. By shutting off the water in the house, it drained and did not freeze. I thought it was cool, he turned on what looked like a light switch and water started to run.

 

[kasander]

Use the Prier P-118. It is a little pricey, around $250!

http://prier.com/truetemp

 

[Chadwilliam1]

When the house was built I had the walls insulated because that is hard to do after construction. I didn't want the attic done so when I added outlets in te garage I wouldn't be crawling around in insulation. So I ran all my outlets but I have never gotten around to insulating the attic.

 

[CKS1955]

I use this one in my garage.

Jay

 

[cashishift]

Use the Prier P-118. It is a little pricey, around $250!

http://prier.com/truetemp

This is what I want for a hot cold bibb - but the price may push me away.

 

[rburke65]

A little pricey? Ya think?

 

[Chadwilliam1]

i ordered a woodford model 22-12".

 

[larry4406]

i ordered a woodford model 22-12".

I hope yours works better than my V22 version. Simple hand washing - yes.
Trying to run a long hose and sprinkler off the cold side - no. Too much pressure drop thru the unit.

http://www.woodfordmfg.com/woodford/Wall_Faucet_PDF/22CATALOG.pdf

 

[RoadBeater]

I'm just a little north of you, I did the same thing with a freeze proof hose bib in my attached garage, then a few years ago put a sink in the garage. I've not had any problems with it freezing.

 

[heffneil]

As a kid growing up we had a hosebib between the two garage doors. It was in Baltimore MD so it does get to freezing. Anyone I never understood what I was looking at on the back side of the wall but my dad took insulation and wrapped the hose bib and then duct taped around it. Just so you know in the 23 years we lived there it never froze and we never turned it off from inside the house. Not sure if that helps but Im not sure you have to worry too much. With spray foams I bet you could encase it and it would be fine?

 

[Chadwilliam1]

This is it. I need to buy a hose and a hanger.

 

[Jeepster04]

I hope yours works better than my V22 version. Simple hand washing - yes.
Trying to run a long hose and sprinkler off the cold side - no. Too much pressure drop thru the unit.

http://www.woodfordmfg.com/woodford/Wall_Faucet_PDF/22CATALOG.pdf

Not sure what model I have but my normal frost free woodford really kills the water flow. I've been debating putting in a quarter turn as I really dont need a frost free in the garage.