Hose Crimping tool

[BurtEggley]

Occasionaly I've had need of recrimping a hose. Does anyone know a way to recrimp tools inexpensively? Meaning some kind of tool that works on a press of bench vise? Not worth spendin $150 - $400 for a tool to do 5 crimps in the next 10 years. Did not want to use a hose clamp for things like a 5/8" water hose to avoid grabbing it and cutting my hand etc.. or the plastic clamps that last six weeks. Just want to buy a package of ferrules for each job, and recrimp. Water hose, AC hose etc.. Looked for inexpensive solutions and found none.

 

[scooby074]

Get Oeteger ear clamps. A set on Amazon is pretty cheap.

 

[BurtEggley]

Get Oeteger ear clamps. A set on Amazon is pretty cheap.

yes, been thinking about that solution. It may be the only one available that is easy to do. Use those all the time on a classic car in the garage. Should be easy on the hands too but a ferrule would be better. There are hydraulic shops that do those things but by the time I drive there, and pay them, it will be $40 in cost and a new whole hose is about that amount. Maybe the Oeteger clamps will be how I go. Not worth spending $150+ on a crimping tool. I would think someone would make a simple one that could be used with a vise or press, maybe not.

 

[oldmachinenut]

This is a Vevor knock-off of the Milton ferrule crimper that I have had for years. There isn’t much to go wrong with these and that is a good price with free shipping. The genuine Milton crimper is currently $238.99

https://www.homedepot.com/p/VEVOR-Heavy-Duty-Hose-Ferrule-Crimping-Tool-3-23in-Standard-Bench-Hose-Crimper-with-5-Die-Holes-and-0-44-in-0-63-in-Range-RGYJQRGJQ04885DHH001V0-251209/340633948

 

[scooby074]

The genuine Oeteger double ear clamps are pretty smooth and rounded on their edges. I did get some knockoffs that were sharp on their edges, not good.

If you want a truely smooth experience, get Parker PushLok hose. Its VERY good hose, and with their barb fittings, no clamp is needed at all. Used a lot of it in industry, but its pricey.

 

[BurtEggley]

This is a Vevor knock-off of the Milton ferrule crimper that I have had for years. There isn’t much to go wrong with these and that is a good price with free shipping. The genuine Milton crimper is currently $238.99

https://www.homedepot.com/p/VEVOR-Heavy-Duty-Hose-Ferrule-Crimping-Tool-3-23in-Standard-Bench-Hose-Crimper-with-5-Die-Holes-and-0-44-in-0-63-in-Range-RGYJQRGJQ04885DHH001V0-251209/340633948

Largest size is .63". I think that is for 1/2" hose. Google says .85" to .90" is needed for 5/8" hose.

 

[BurtEggley]

This looks interesting. Has anyone tried them> Eley

ELEY Garden Hose Repair Kit - 5/8 Inch Hose

Factory-quality garden hose repair kit for most brands of 5/8-inch garden hose. The patent pending ELEY fitting repair kit includes an innovative repair tool and ultra-durable, full-flow, lead-free male and female all-brass fittings. 100% drinking water safe. Replace damaged fittings or create...

www.eleyhosereels.com

 

[blazemaster83]

This has to be for garden hose or something similar at 5/8". My first thought was welding torch hose crimping. You would have to be in the bangladeshi ship yard to be using 5/8" torch hose.

 

[The Cobbler]

Milton ferrule crimper that I have had for years. There isn’t much to go wrong with these

I have one that was left in a rental unit . there were several boxes of ferrules that were with it.
I've not used it a lot but it's worked well when I did .
There is a larger version as well, I thin it just has some spacers & larger dies
but if OP is wanting to do air conditioning lines too, this is probably not the right tool.

 

[M.Wong]

This looks interesting. Has anyone tried them> Eley

ELEY Garden Hose Repair Kit - 5/8 Inch Hose

Factory-quality garden hose repair kit for most brands of 5/8-inch garden hose. The patent pending ELEY fitting repair kit includes an innovative repair tool and ultra-durable, full-flow, lead-free male and female all-brass fittings. 100% drinking water safe. Replace damaged fittings or create...

www.eleyhosereels.com

I have the Eley tool for making short sections. Eley used to sell custom lengths, but now sells this tool and the hose fittings so you can make your own. This one is to fill my dog water bowl.

 

[BurtEggley]

I have one that was left in a rental unit . there were several boxes of ferrules that were with it.
I've not used it a lot but it's worked well when I did .
There is a larger version as well, I thin it just has some spacers & larger dies
but if OP is wanting to do air conditioning lines too, this is probably not the right tool.

The AC line is a one time line, I could pay to have that done. The 5/8" water hose is going to happen again. The sprayer end eventually gets soft right behind the crimp and start collapsing so I have to hold the hose with two hands while spraying, while the main hose is still good. I looked intially for some kind of sleeve like the ones on my air lines, but could not find anything.

 

[metalmagpie]

First, you can do a pretty good job with one of those simple tools that use stainless wire for clamping. Link:

Clamptite Tools – Custom Clamp Making Tool

clamptitetools.com

I made a knockoff version which is pretty crude but I can get decent results with it and it cost me practically nothing.

Second, I have done a lot of splicing of oxyacetylene hose. People told me to use Oetiker clamps but when I tried those I could not get them anywhere near tight enough.

I did as much as you can do with a hammer-type crimping tool but they only fit a few sizes of ferrules. McMaster carries brass crimp ferrules and they say you can only have 0.040" extra room inside a ferrule to get a tight crimp on a fitting.

Finally, I bought a complete Dixon 855 crimper (which Milton knocked off and then Vevor knocked off Milton). If you look long enough and intelligently enough you can probably get an 855 for $60 or so. Then I bought a few of each size ferrule. Now I feel confident I can make a gas-tight crimp joint.

 

[Grant Gunderson]

I have a bunch of Oetiker crimpers. I really like the compound action style best. I have those in both end and side styles. The standard style only get used when I don’t have clearance for the others. They create a very secure connection and are cheap too. In my mind the only better option would be hydraulic but then you need special dies for each size.

 

[purplezr2]

The genuine Oeteger double ear clamps are pretty smooth and rounded on their edges. I did get some knockoffs that were sharp on their edges, not good.

If you want a truely smooth experience, get Parker PushLok hose. Its VERY good hose, and with their barb fittings, no clamp is needed at all. Used a lot of it in industry, but its pricey.

Oetiker is the spelling of the brand I believe you are referring too

 

[jblnut]

Occasionaly I've had need of recrimping a hose. Does anyone know a way to recrimp tools inexpensively? Meaning some kind of tool that works on a press of bench vise? Not worth spendin $150 - $400 for a tool to do 5 crimps in the next 10 years. Did not want to use a hose clamp for things like a 5/8" water hose to avoid grabbing it and cutting my hand etc.. or the plastic clamps that last six weeks. Just want to buy a package of ferrules for each job, and recrimp. Water hose, AC hose etc.. Looked for inexpensive solutions and found none.

I diddlefarted around with a few cheap crimping tools over the years and finally purchased a Gates setup with a bunch of fittings that we use on the farm. So far I’ve made a few dozen hoses and saved a bunch of trips to town as well as the insane markup that comes with custom hoses. Not exactly what you’re looking for but a quality tool will always be a good investment.

 

[BurtEggley]

Beautiful set up. I am 75 now and maybe one like that might be used 5 to 7 times in the remainer of my life. But I can see where on a working farm it would get a lot of use condsidering the cost of prefab hoses.

 

[racecougar]

I use the 71500 knock-off for crimping auto AC hoses. I haven't messed with garden hoses.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FDW5K36J?tag=atomicindus08-20

 

[four.cycle]

^ yes. "Oetiker"

Oetiker / Oetiker Tool Corp., 30 East Industrial Road, Branford, CT 06405 / https://www.oetiker.com/en-us/ / rebranded as Elm City Tools, Wallingford, CT 2022 / see also Sargent & Co., New Haven, CT; see also Elm City Tools, Wallingford, CT, see also William Schollhorn Co., New Haven, CT /

sounds like it might be cheaper to just buy a new hose!

 

[BurtEggley]

^ yes. "Oetiker"

Oetiker / Oetiker Tool Corp., 30 East Industrial Road, Branford, CT 06405 / https://www.oetiker.com/en-us/ / rebranded as Elm City Tools, Wallingford, CT 2022 / see also Sargent & Co., New Haven, CT; see also Elm City Tools, Wallingford, CT, see also William Schollhorn Co., New Haven, CT /

sounds like it might be cheaper to just buy a new hose!

about the same

 

[paulsomlo]

Dramm makes a simplified version: https://www.dramm.com/html/main.isx?sub=602

The lowest price I'm seeing this at is about $110.00

 

[msharley]

I have a bunch of Oetiker crimpers. I really like the compound action style best. I have those in both end and side styles. The standard style only get used when I don’t have clearance for the others. They create a very secure connection and are cheap too. In my mind the only better option would be hydraulic but then you need special dies for each size.

Have a pair similar to the blue handled pair shown...

Have a selection of "clamps"...for fuel lines & such. Work just fine.

 

[BurtEggley]

Dramm makes a simplified version: https://www.dramm.com/html/main.isx?sub=602

The lowest price I'm seeing this at is about $110.00

sort of what I am looking for as long as it works with other water hoses - which I see no reason why it would not.

 

[Firebrick43]

I have used hose ferrule crimpers, presslock, oetiker clamps, and Bucannan hammer lock clamps for air, low pressure oil, and coolant hoses in a large factory

Ferrules are terrible for longevity especially if the hose is abused or swells from oils.

Hammer lock was above and beyond the best, especially as diameter increased. Never had one fail, never had one leak, moderately easy to remove and not mess up a barb if the last foot or two of hose wore and needed cut back. It is around 160 bucks for a tool but it isn’t a one trick pony. It can do 5/8 wide bands or 3/8 with the included adapter and can do large hose or fernco style fittings 6” or even larger with the same tool

Oetiker was next. Maybe superior to the hammer lock in small 1/2” or smaller hoses

Push lock was good only if you used push lock hose and I never saw steel fittings just brass which is ok in lighter duty applications

 

[Smilodon]

I diddlefarted around with a few cheap crimping tools over the years and finally purchased a Gates setup with a bunch of fittings that we use on the farm. So far I’ve made a few dozen hoses and saved a bunch of trips to town as well as the insane markup that comes with custom hoses. Not exactly what you’re looking for but a quality tool will always be a good investment.

Proper Garage Journal answer that.

Now I want one and have nearly zero use for it! But there were those times over the years...

 

[jblnut]

Proper Garage Journal answer that.

Now I want one and have nearly zero use for it! But there were those times over the years...

If you spent enough on fittings and hose the crimper, cabinets and bins are free. My crimper, cabinets and bins were free lol.

 

[andyvh1959]

If you want a truely smooth experience, get Parker PushLok hose. Its VERY good hose, and with their barb fittings, no clamp is needed at all. Used a lot of it in industry, but its pricey.

I retired from Parker Hannifin after 30 years as a hydraulic hose field engineer. Used Parker 801 hose and Pushlok on many hydraulic systems for low pressure control/signal circuits, return line, case drains, coolant systems, diesel engine remote drain/fill systems and other applications. Pushlok/801 is a very good product, never had a reported issue. Parker rates all their hose/hose ends combinations at 4:1 minimum safety factors, which means the only acceptable 4:1 pressure test means the hose fails mid-length with no hose end separation/blowoff. 801 hose is rated far above common pressures in any home water system.

 

[fourjeepin]

it doesn’t work for all garden hoses, but I have used PEX crimp rings many times. I already had the tool and the ring is much better than an automotive hose clamp

 

[BurtEggley]

thank you. I was wondering about the PEX rings instead of brass ferrels.

 

[Grant Gunderson]

thank you. I was wondering about the PEX rings instead of brass ferrels.

Pex and Oeitiker are damn near identical. Only difference is they come in different sized rings. You can use the same tool on both.

 

[jimindm]

Not sure OP is going to find a one crimper does all.

I use flexilla air hoses, and a pex clamp works very well for the repair. I would try pex fittings on any low pressure use.

High pressure really isn't something I would want to mess around with. Proper repair would be my go to in that situation. I would not want to be even close, or even anyone else standing nearby, when something I cobbled blew apart

 

[jimindm]

I have used steel zip ties is some applications when pex fitting just will not work.

 

[cgrutt]

Pex and Oeitiker are damn near identical. Only difference is they come in different sized rings. You can use the same tool on both.

Don't they have pex clamps with the ears and solid rings? I got impression OP was talking about the solid rings.



As far as I know they use separate tools.

 

[BurtEggley]

the pex crimp uses a special crimping tool. The Pex clamp is basically closed with a pair of end cutting pliers.

 

[roc_on_the_rocks]

the pex crimp uses a special crimping tool.

I think that's worth the $100, once you have it it's really handy for PEX work around the house.

 

[Hooked]

Well, once again GJ successfully spent my $$ on a new tool I didn't know I needed.

I think I'm going to love this method on repairing water and air hoses.

 

[four.cycle]

^ resistance is futile

 

[dura eagle]

I use 1/2” copper PEX rings for 3/8” air hose and 3/4” for garden hose. Sometimes the rings are a bit small so I stretch them out a bit by hammering them on a tapered deep socket.

 

[Hooked]

^ resistance is futile

I forgot that the air hose I use frequently is 1/4" so unable to put the tool to use immediately.