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Hot dawg Heater questions

bmallak

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I have a 30x40x14 pole barn in centeral Mn with r19 walls and R40-49 ceiling. 2 10x12 insulated doors and a 2 3x4 windows and 1 service door. Will a 75k Hot dawg heater be large enough?? also when I was looking online I see you can get it as 1 stage or 2 stage for $200 more. I have never seen a 2 stage on a unit type heater and wondered it would be a good idea or not worth the expense? I plan on keeping it at 45 and turning it up on weekends. Thanks
 
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samert111

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That's just about perfect I think. I'm in Western Michigan and have a 75K in a 28x48x15 with similar insulation and it works great. It will bring it up from 40° to 60° in about 15-20 minutes and once it's there it will come on maybe once or twice an hour with it in the high teens or low 20's outside. I also have a couple ceiling fans that keep the warm air circulating off the ceiling. You may want to consider adding some also if you don't already have them.

Can't comment on the 1 vs. 2 stage gas valve and the advantages one way or another.
 

mygarageone

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Spend the money for the 2 stage , it will save you money in the short run. The way they work is , when you don't need the higher BTU's they fire on the lower setting , lets say it's 50 degree's out side , you don't need a full 75,000 btu's to heat at that temp , so it goes into a low fire burn , at around 35,000 btus . there by saving you fuel consumption.
 

jvitez

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75K btu might be a bit big actually. Ideally you want a fuel burning heater to be running 100% of the time on the coldest day of the year. Why? Because fuel burning heaters that run for only short periods never achieve peak combustion efficiency, plus with the fan off for long periods the hot air rises and you're cold, so you're unhappy or you turn up the thermostat and use more fuel.

Ceiling fans can mitigate heat stratification, but it's an extra expense to buy and run. Better is to size a heater to have it running more often, it's actually cheaper and more comfortable.

But, a 2 stage heater is ideal! Low fire means the fan and burner are running longer which means the heater is spending more of it's time at steady state efficiency, plus the fan is on longer reducing heat stratification. Oversizing a 2 stage heater is less of a concern, as it can spend most of it's time on low fire, only bumping up when you want rapid heat gain after opening the garage door or bumping up the temp prior to working there.

So, for only $200 more you should ABSOLUTELY get the 2 stage heater, and 75K btu will be great as it'll allow more rapid heat rise when you need with none of neg consequences of oversizing a single fire heater.
 
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bmallak

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Another question... I have 14 foot ceilings. I was seriously considering using a quick sling flush mount to hang because of ease of use and angling the heater. http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200603755_200603755

Is that going to be ok or will it be to high. I plan on having pallet racking under the heater so I don't wanna give up to much space either. Modine recommends max mounting height of 14 ft so I'm safe there.
 
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CNGsaves

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If you mount it that high, I'd have some ceiling fans to push the heat back down to floor level.

You going with vertical exhaust flue, or horizontal??
 
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