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Hot Dawg Installed Today

Truck Guy

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After putting off getting a unit heater for the last 15 years, finally had a Modine Hot Dawg 60K BTU installed today.

This thing rocks! Just walked into the garage in short sleeves :thumbup:

In the beginning....

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Nice install job (friend in the HVAC business)

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We measured three or four times before cutting the hole for the exhaust flue pipe. :yikes: Clears the car by about 5 inches.

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Nothing like cramming 10lbs in a 5lb sack :lol:
 
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What year Vette? I had a 73 L82 Conv auto in blue once... before the divorce..

Dana
 

NHCharger

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I have the same thing in my shop. I think their the best bang for the buck.
I also suffered for 15+ years working on a piece of cardboard outside or using a torpedo heater.
 
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REFLEXX said:
no hatchbacks on the lift now!
:lol: You've got that right!

dboat said:
What year Vette? I had a 73 L82 Conv auto in blue once... before the divorce..

Dana
It's a '73 L48/Auto/AC
I get to keep it for now.......not divorced........yet :D

NHCharger said:
I have the same thing in my shop. I think their the best bang for the buck.
I also suffered for 15+ years working on a piece of cardboard outside or using a torpedo heater.
Same here. Used to use portable electric, propane, kerosene, you name it.
It was finally time to get some real heat.

As these bones get older......I need more comfort :lol:
 

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Hi All-

I am new here. I saw these heaters last year, can you give us an outside shot of the exhaust?

Thanks-
John
 

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what size garage do you have? I have a 3 bay and my Hot Dawg 75K Btu is sitting in my house, awaiting install this week...
 

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Awesome. Another satisfied Hot Dawg owner. It sure is nice working in your garage in a tee shirt when its 20 degrees outside.

Dave
 
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ponjohn said:
Hi All-

I am new here. I saw these heaters last year, can you give us an outside shot of the exhaust?

Thanks-
John
Hey John, No problem. Here's a couple of shots of the "mushroom" exhaust.

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sierradmax said:
what size garage do you have? I have a 3 bay and my Hot Dawg 75K Btu is sitting in my house, awaiting install this week...
Just a lowly 2 stall :lol: and a small one at that...400 sq.ft.
I'm trying to use the space as efficiently as possible.

The 45K BTU unit would have been enough, but my buddy that did the install said the 60K & 75K units were more efficient.
The fan on the 60K draws half the juice the 45K unit does and of course it heats up the space I have in about 5 minutes :rocker:

DaveL said:
Awesome. Another satisfied Hot Dawg owner. It sure is nice working in your garage in a tee shirt when its 20 degrees outside.

Dave
You've got that right Dave! :thumbup:
 

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I was just eyeing one of these 60k units over the Christmas holiday. Glad to hear so many positive comments about it. Do most of you guys vent out the wall also? I had thought I'd go through the roof.
 

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The power exhaust vent on the Hot Dawg and other heaters allows a simplified side wall installation possible. It has to be one best innovations to HVAC systems. Besides being more efficient they take less work to install the vent pipe in the side wall than the roof. And there is less of a chance for leaks from inclement weather.
 

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DynoDave said:
I was just eyeing one of these 60k units over the Christmas holiday. Glad to hear so many positive comments about it. Do most of you guys vent out the wall also? I had thought I'd go through the roof.

I vented mine horizontally out the back wall of my garage, but the Installation & Service Manual provided by Modine give details for the following acceptable scenarios:

1) Venting through a combustible wall or roof,
2) Vertical venting through a flat roof, and
3) Vertical venting through a sloped roof.
 

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DynoDave said:
I was just eyeing one of these 60k units over the Christmas holiday. Glad to hear so many positive comments about it. Do most of you guys vent out the wall also? I had thought I'd go through the roof.

Mine vents through the roof. Codes for side wall venting can be very restrictive ie: vent termination must be a min. of 4' from any door/window,10' from any air intake, 4' below any eave/sofit vent and 6' from any corner formed by 2 exterior walls. It took me 5' of pipe and less than 20 mins. to install mine through the roof. With modern day flashing, roof leaks are a thing of the past. :beer:
 

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I vented mine through the roof because of the location of the heater I did not have the option of side venting. But I have to admit having the option with the HotDawg made life a lot easier, it gave me options I would not have had as far as location of the heater,etc.

I have it all in my garage and yet, the best purchase I ever made for my garage was my HotDawg heater. It makes being in the garage so much nicer and pleasant.
 

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Truckguy- thanks. That is the way to go.

What size tank do you'all use? I don't have propane or NG at my house.

What is the SF the 60k is good for?

John
 

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ponjohn said:
Truckguy- thanks. That is the way to go.

What size tank do you'all use? I don't have propane or NG at my house.

What is the SF the 60k is good for?

John

HD60 60,000 3 to 3-1/2 Car Garage (From the Modine website)

I have a 1200 sq ft garage with 9' cieling. I contacted Modine and they sized mine
HD75 (75000 btu). I'm sure the amount of insulation you have would be a factor also. I have R19 walls and R 30 cieling.

Dave
 

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Dave thanks- so 75k is what I should look at.

I have r19 in the ceiling and 2x4 construction on the walls ( I insulated it and sheetrocked the walls but dont rememebr what I put in there).

john
 

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Truck Guy - Where did you buy it from and how much for the unit plus the vent kit, if you don't mine sharing? BTW, I'm from Plainfield (south of Naperville). Thanks
 
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Thanks guys. I can see reasons for going both ways. When the time comes, mine will be in new construction, so I think I'll be able to punch a chimney through the roof before the shingles go on, and (hopefully) avoid leaks.
 
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ponjohn said:
Truckguy- thanks. That is the way to go.

What size tank do you'all use? I don't have propane or NG at my house.

What is the SF the 60k is good for?

John
ponjohn, No propane tank at all.

I'm tapped into my CNG line from the house.

The 60K unit is good for 3 - 3 1/2 car garage.

I've got a little overkill in my 2 car space, but better too much than not enough.
 
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ovilla said:
Truck Guy - Where did you buy it from and how much for the unit plus the vent kit, if you don't mine sharing? BTW, I'm from Plainfield (south of Naperville). Thanks
I got the whole setup through a friend in the HVAC business.

He usually does large rooftop commercial jobs and did this one as a favor.

The usual cost installed is around $1500.00 depending on how much labor is involved.....I'm waiting for him to send me a bill :shocking:
 

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I think I'll be able to punch a chimney through the roof before the shingles go on

You can vent through the wall since the gas/propane heaters do not require a chimney. Cheaper and easier to do and less chance of a water leak down the road.
 

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I hung a 45,000 Btu Hot Dawg unit in November, but I'm stymied by the electrics. I have insulated, sheetrocked walls and ceiling, does anyone have good photos and/or recommendations on the 120 VAC and the thermostat?
I could rewire a car quicker than I've been able to figure out how house wiring works, as far as the code, different types of conduit- it's a giant drag.
I have a 24x40 detached 2 story garage in NY, and it's time for HEAT.

Thanks for any pointers

You guys have some NICE facilities.

Wardwd
 

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welcome

Welcome wardwd! I'm no electrician either. I had the HVAC people put mine in so wouldn't electrocute myself.
Post some pictures of your garage sometime.
 

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wardwd said:
I hung a 45,000 Btu Hot Dawg unit in November, but I'm stymied by the electrics. I have insulated, sheetrocked walls and ceiling, does anyone have good photos and/or recommendations on the 120 VAC and the thermostat?
I could rewire a car quicker than I've been able to figure out how house wiring works, as far as the code, different types of conduit- it's a giant drag.
I have a 24x40 detached 2 story garage in NY, and it's time for HEAT.

Thanks for any pointers

You guys have some NICE facilities.

Wardwd

I may not be a certified electrician; but I’m been around house wiring for nearly a half century now. I wired my new garage complex myself. Including installing a new remote 400 Amp 240 Volt meter with two 200 and Two 100 Amp branch circuits along with hundreds of feet of romex. My best advice to you, since you know little about home electrical wiring, would be to call in an expert. Then make better use of your time doing what you do best.
 

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Well, I've rewired just about my whole 1941 house, no sweat, with the sheetrock down, etc. Just wondered if anyone has set up a Hot Dawg to plug in at the ceiling and how to penetrate the ceiling with the thermostat wire. I can run the Romex, add a breaker, etc. JUst not familiar with the "accepted practice" on this. See, the big snag is the ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR still has to come for the final signoff on the Garage Mahal, and I don't want a discussion about "Who the HELL wired the heater" ;)
Thanks

Ward
 

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My ceiling-hung Reznor has the 120V power wiring going from the side of the unit enclosure through exposed flexible conduit to a box in the ceiling, and from there it's Romex to the breaker box. The low-voltage thermostat wire is tied to the vertical gas feed pipe through the ceiling drywall, and then across the garage (above the drywall) to the thermostat location; you want the thermostat mounted out of the path of airflow from the unit or it'll short-cycle all the time.

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Wardwd,

I didn’t mean to come off so arrogantly. From your post I thought that you had no experience at house wiring and only needed to wire up the one heater. So why learn a whole trade for what an expert can do in a few hours time. Then you’ll have heat all the quicker.

Knowing that you have the desire to install it yourself and had past experience, it won’t be any more difficult than installing a light. First determine the circuit size required and where the connecting wires are located. Most likely a 15 Amp circuit that requires #14 wire. If the breaker box isn’t in “eye’s View” of the heater, a disconnect switch will be required at the heater. A simple 4x4 box mounted on the wall with a simple light switch will do.

Pick up a pre-wired section of sealtite at Home Cheapo, long enough to reach from the heater junction box to the disconnect switch that you mounted on the wall. In the heater junction box connect the black wire to black wire of the sealtight, the white to white with wire nuts. And screw the bare ground wire to the green grounding screw.

You will need to run wire from a dedicated breaker in the load center to the disconnect swutch. Keep in mind that the wires should not be exposed or on the surface. In the areas that you cannot run the romex behind the drywall, it will have to be placed in conduit, Steel EMT, plastic, flexible steel (greenfield), or sealtite. Connections in the wall mounted disconnect box: Black wire from the breaker to one pole of switch, the black wire from heater to the other pole. The two white wires are connected together with wire nuts. If the 4x4” wall mounted box is steel, that needs to be grounded together with the two bare wires with a wire nut. Some inspectors like to see the switch grounded also.

The thermostat wires are low voltage and can be run behind drywall or on the surface from the heater to where you mount the thermostat. Purchase thermostat wire from Home Cheapo, usually smaller gage (#20 or so) and 4 conductors. Also purchase a “heat only” thermostat. The instructions with it will tell you what color wire goes on each terminal.

Hopefully they local certified electrician on the board will lend a hand.

Good luck and please post some pictures of your garage
 

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Truck Guy said:
I got the whole setup through a friend in the HVAC business.

He usually does large rooftop commercial jobs and did this one as a favor.

The usual cost installed is around $1500.00 depending on how much labor is involved.....I'm waiting for him to send me a bill :shocking:

Bingo, that's what it cost for my unit (60k or 75k can't remember). I had already run the thermostat wire and romex when I built the garage.
 
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wardwd said:
Well, I've rewired just about my whole 1941 house, no sweat, with the sheetrock down, etc. Just wondered if anyone has set up a Hot Dawg to plug in at the ceiling and how to penetrate the ceiling with the thermostat wire. I can run the Romex, add a breaker, etc. JUst not familiar with the "accepted practice" on this. See, the big snag is the ELECTRICAL INSPECTOR still has to come for the final signoff on the Garage Mahal, and I don't want a discussion about "Who the HELL wired the heater" ;)
Thanks

Ward
Mine was wired with an appliance cord and plugged into the ceiling box that my garage door opener is plug into.

Here a few shots with the side panel removed. The gray cord is the plug cord.

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A little closer.....

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Here's where the thermostat wire is connected to the Hawt Dog.....

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There is a schematic label inside the unit on the bottom panel that should also help you.....

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Hope these helped.

BTW.......I'm loving heat in the garage!!! :thumbup:
 

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wardwd- Thanks for posting the pictures. Thats a nice shop. I like the walk-up storage room above. What types/years vehicles do you have? They are a little before my time.
 

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Newbie here, I just installed my 75,000 btu Hot Dawg myself two weeks ago in my residential detached garage and I love it! I just wired romex with a male plug end on it and ran it to an electrical outlet in case I found a better place for mounting the unit later. Horizontal powered exhaust was a beautiful feature. Total monetary cost for the unit, double wall vent pipe, gas pipe, propane kit and thermostat was about $750.00. ( Good freind of mine got me the heater at cost ). I painted a car in there last weekend and the garage was 75 deg. w/ little cycling. Sure as heck beats my old woodburner. :thumbup: If you have the money, I would recommend this heater.
 
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