Hot glue dent pull tips

[Shoreline_]

I backed my girlfriends little 500 into a bumper of someones truck. It seems fairly straight forward to get most of the sheet metal back presentable. Any tips for this? I know its an art and I'm not expecting it to look like nothing happened.

 

[gahrajmahal]

Sorry shoreline, but that dent needs professional repair and refinishing. You can take it to paint less dent repair, but they probably won’t touch it.

 

[Shoreline_]

Whaaa. It looks like 3 pulls. No?

 

[no704]

No fing way you are getting anything close to good with hot glue. A really good pdr guy might get close. That metal has been stretched. No way you are fixing that without shrinking the metal. I would be amazed if that gets fixed without paint work.

 

[Shoreline_]

I think the metal has been inverted.

 

[no704]

Or just get a sink plunger and go for it. Not much to lose.

 

[Shoreline_]

I think if I glue on the pulls in the center of those three hits, it'll pop out 70% that's all I'm looking for.

 

[dnschmidt]

The writings of a desperate guy whose girlfriend is so pissed off she won’t give him any. Hey, I've been there too but in my case it was a Porsche. Had to whip out my wallet and pay the big bucks. *** is never cheap.

 

[Copymutt]

Dry ice & a heat gun might move a lot of concave out of that.

 

[vwpieces]

I'd remove the rear wheel and fender liner. See if accessible from inside. Might be able to push most back by hand.
A football deflated and then inflated is a possible helper.

Certainly gave her something to remember you by.

 

[The Cobbler]

OOP'S

 

[Nessism]

You need a new fender.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

That is very repairable. You do not need a new panel. As far as glue pulling, I personally don't have any experience with it but I have seen enough of it done that I wouldn't be surprised if that, coupled along with PDR could get at least most of that out. Now the only issue would be the cracked paint near the bumper.

 

[tak1313]

Harbor Freight sells cheap dent pulling suction cups. They're so cheap, I would at least try them. Best case scenario you get close to what you want. Worse case scenario you end up where you started just a few bucks poorer.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

Harbor Freight sells cheap dent pulling suction cups. They're so cheap, I would at least try them. Best case scenario you get close to what you want. Worse case scenario you end up where you started just a few bucks poorer.

You are 100% not getting that out with a suction cup.

 

[toolenthusiast]

It seems fairly straight forward

Well there you go. Just fix it.

 

[Leaflessshadetree]

That's not coming out with 3 glue on pulls. On an older vehicle I'd try beating them out from the back side. Even then only if it were mine.
Anyone else's car and I'm paying for a professional repair.

 

[no704]

Be sure to keep this thread updated with your progress please.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

That's not coming out with 3 glue on pulls. On an older vehicle I'd try beating them out from the back side. Even then only if it were mine.
Anyone else's car and I'm paying for a professional repair.

Glue pulling will get most of this out if not all of it. "Beating them out from the back side" can cause a lot more damage if you don't know what you are doing. Metal needs to be massaged back into place.

 

[Nessism]

The only way to fix a dent like that is to remove the fender, and pound out the damage from the backside. It takes skill, and time, both cost money. This must be weighed against the cost of a new fender. I'm not sure what year 500 we are talking about here, but an aftermarket fender for the 500 from Amazon seems to be in the $140 range.

 

[rust in the eye]

This is absolutely repairable, perhaps without painting.
I'd NOT mess with it myself for fear of making it worse. The metal is probably stretched a bit but I've seen some amazing work done by dent men. Expect to pay up for a really good guy but if successful you'll still have original metal and paint.
Good luck. My wife just took out the neighbors fender backing out of the driveway, I feel your pain.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

The only way to fix a dent like that is to remove the fender, and pound out the damage from the backside. It takes skill, and time, both cost money. This must be weighed against the cost of a new fender. I'm not sure what year 500 we are talking about here, but an aftermarket fender for the 500 from Amazon seems to be in the $140 range.

Once again, incorrect. There are many ways to repair this dent without removing and pounding out or beating out the damage. This is a quarter panel that is damaged, it is welded on, not bolted on.

 

[Nessism]

Ah, quarter panel. I see now.

I'd be looking at removing the inner fender so you can get behind the dent. The panel crease is not going to be easy to remove.

 

[BWWgarage]

Any updates? Awaiting pics of your attemp(s)!

 

[hailwood1965]

Ah, quarter panel. I see now.

I'd be looking at removing the inner fender so you can get behind the dent. The panel crease is not going to be easy to remove.

NESS!!!!

YOU ARE HERE TOO???!!!

 

[toolenthusiast]

Once again, incorrect. There are many ways to repair this dent without removing and pounding out or beating out the damage. This is a quarter panel that is damaged, it is welded on, not bolted on.

I wasn’t going to say anything but, yeah… lots of people giving advice in this thread that literally don’t know what part of the car they’re looking at This type of thing is why I realized that forums are mostly useless. The dumbest people are the loudest voices. More importantly, they’re the most popular voices And then if you start explaining your qualifications people just get pissy.

 

[Jim greengo]

Check out videos on facebook,some of those boys are pretty creative.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

I wasn’t going to say anything but, yeah… lots of people giving advice in this thread that literally don’t know what part of the car they’re looking at This type of thing is why I realized that forums are mostly useless. The dumbest people are the loudest voices. More importantly, they’re the most popular voices And then if you start explaining your qualifications people just get pissy.

I've learned a lot from forums but there is also a LOT of misinformation spread. I was a heavy collision tech for 10 years and still do some work on the side so I have at least a slight clue what I'm talking about. Glue pulling is a newer method and from what I see works well and so does PDR. Guys are even pulling structures with it. Even though I am out of the game, I still follow it regularly as it's still a passion of mine.

 

[Nessism]

I wasn’t going to say anything but, yeah… lots of people giving advice in this thread that literally don’t know what part of the car they’re looking at This type of thing is why I realized that forums are mostly useless. The dumbest people are the loudest voices. More importantly, they’re the most popular voices And then if you start explaining your qualifications people just get pissy.

Once again, incorrect. There are many ways to repair this dent without removing and pounding out or beating out the damage. This is a quarter panel that is damaged, it is welded on, not bolted on.

Do you guys have some positive advice to offer? Or are you just going to make fun of others, like me, that made a mistake regarding what panel is in question? Waiting...

 

[Retired dozer fixer]

5 gallons of Bondo

 

[dnschmidt]

Stop waiting. We are going to make fun of you for not knowing which end of the horse you're talking about. And, we have given great advice: GO TO A PRO and get the quarter panel repaired. A quality stud welding setup using keys and a linear puller in the hands of a professional can repair this but there is almost no possibility that you can avoid refinishing this quarter panel. Everybody comes on this board looking for a cheap way to get out of a fix. Well, sometimes there isn't one. PAY UP. This mistake is in the $2000-$3000 range. The fact that you're broke doesn't mean we're all pricks. So many people are given the correct answer and simply refuse to accept it. **** UPS cost you money. That's what's called a life lesson.

 

[NYBODYMAN]

Do you guys have some positive advice to offer? Or are you just going to make fun of others, like me, that made a mistake regarding what panel is in question? Waiting...

I offered plenty of positive advice. Perhaps you didn't read it and just decided to post incorrect advice. I never made fun of you. I pointed out that your post is incorrect. If you think that is making fun of you and/or your feelings are hurt then I feel awfully sorry for you.

 

[toolenthusiast]

Do you guys have some positive advice to offer? Or are you just going to make fun of others, like me, that made a mistake regarding what panel is in question? Waiting...

I’m gonna keep making fun of you.

In the future, bear in mind that tail lamps are at the back of the car

 

[K13]

Biggest problem is the cracked paint on the back edge of the panel. If that is not repaired properly you are going to have rust and failing paint in no time.

 

[toolenthusiast]

I've learned a lot from forums but there is also a LOT of misinformation spread. I was a heavy collision tech for 10 years and still do some work on the side so I have at least a slight clue what I'm talking about. Glue pulling is a newer method and from what I see works well and so does PDR. Guys are even pulling structures with it. Even though I am out of the game, I still follow it regularly as it's still a passion of mine.

If you’re doing side jobs then this stuff is right up your alley. GPR saves a lot of materials and time, and actually saves a lot of panels.

I’ll try to find some before/after pictures of glue pulls that I’ve done and DM you. (Unlike the youtube creators, my after shots are quite candid. And I dont cherry pick the clean/easy repairs. And I’m another GPR newbie.)

 

[gatewaysysop]

I backed my girlfriends little 500 into a bumper of someones truck. It seems fairly straight forward to get most of the sheet metal back presentable. Any tips for this? I know its an art and I'm not expecting it to look like nothing happened.

How's the truck look?

 

[finn]

You guys are slipping.

Proper etiquette here demands pictures of the girlfriend before determining if a professional repair is warranted, or if “good enough” is the proper path.

Having said that, my experience is that, at my skill level, I always regret taking the good enough path, and never have a moment of regret after taking the leave it to the pro path.

 

[Shoreline_]

Okay there was actually 4 dent centers total. I got the first two pulled reasonably well. Some things I noticed is the glue doesn't stick to the plastic pull tab very good. Probably the paintless dent guys use a better glue. I'm going to 3d print a different version tab I think will work and try again tomorrow. Also I think i can take the fender liner out and get to the back of it which I think will help.

 

[Shoreline_]

You guys are slipping.

Proper etiquette here demands pictures of the girlfriend before determining if a professional repair is warranted, or if “good enough” is the proper path.

Having said that, my experience is that, at my skill level, I always regret taking the good enough path, and never have a moment of regret after taking the leave it to the pro path.

It's a 2012 and it's just holding us over until we get a house. Then it's getting replaced. Good enough is probably better than what the whole situation is worth, that is just leaving it alone

 

[PugetDude]

Pictures?