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zimman

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Bought a 115 yo house. We have 2 unused rooms up stairs, one finished, one not. Hotter than hell. 118*. I have the window open also. What's the best way to evacuate that heat. I have a window on the west side as picture shows. Can't do anything in the front of the house. Roof appears to have two vents of some sort but not working to my favor. LOL
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A whole house fan, but that only good if it’s cooler outside. Is it 118* outside or inside?
 

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This is a normal second story with an attic above it. Or are these rooms located in the attic?
 

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Fan in a window, blowing out. barely open a couple windows down stairs and let them draw air in. It might work, not much else you can do that is simple.

Install a mini split.
This is your best option for a house that old. I also think it would be your cheapest option ^^
 

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Bought a 115 yo house. We have 2 unused rooms up stairs, one finished, one not. Hotter than hell. 118*. I have the window open also. What's the best way to evacuate that heat. I have a window on the west side as picture shows. Can't do anything in the front of the house. Roof appears to have two vents of some sort but not working to my favor. LOL
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I should add, the best thing to do would be to insulate. Although, depending on construction it might not be that simple.
 
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I should add, the best thing to do would be to insulate. Although, depending on construction it might not be that simple.
Yeah we'll insulate when we rebuild up stairs. Someone just nailed up some wood paneling and called it good. It's all warped due to moisture now and is a mess.
Thanks for your input.
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In the upstairs of my house I have about 4' of sloped ceiling that follows the underside of the roof. I can insulate the exterior walls, I can insulate in the attic but that sloped ceiling is not an easy task.

I have no desire to tear off plaster so my plan is wait until the roof needs shingled then pull sheathing in that are and either spray foam it or cut rigid foam to fit. With only 3 1/2" foam is the only real option.

If your wall and of ceiling finish is in bad shape that makes the decision easy to tear it off and work from the inside.
 

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In the upstairs of my house I have about 4' of sloped ceiling that follows the underside of the roof. I can insulate the exterior walls, I can insulate in the attic but that sloped ceiling is not an easy task.

I have no desire to tear off plaster so my plan is wait until the roof needs shingled then pull sheathing in that are and either spray foam it or cut rigid foam to fit. With only 3 1/2" foam is the only real option.

You can also insulate outside of the existing roof deck. Typical solution is tear off old roof, repair the sheathing, put an air barrier, and then put foam on top, followed by OSB (attached with really long screws...), and a normal roof. There are other ways to do it, too. I've seen the sheeting ripped off and trusses (same sort as used for floor joists, more less. Lighter than a 2x would be.) sistered to the rafters , so that there's enough depth for a more conventional insulation system.
 

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You can also insulate outside of the existing roof deck. Typical solution is tear off old roof, repair the sheathing, put an air barrier, and then put foam on top, followed by OSB (attached with really long screws...), and a normal roof. There are other ways to do it, too. I've seen the sheeting ripped off and trusses (same sort as used for floor joists, more less. Lighter than a 2x would be.) sistered to the rafters , so that there's enough depth for a more conventional insulation system.
It would accomplish the insulation goal. Especially if you need to insulate the whole roof. I need to insulate about 48" on each half of the roof. Going on top would make the eaves would look weird unless I cut them off and redid.

You put that much work and expense into it and it starts to make more sense to just pay the utility bill.
 

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Post 2 whole house fan. Can adjust window openings for balancing flow. Still won't be much cooler till heat breaks. Still have August.
 

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I recently finished redoing the attic in my 150 yr old house. Roof is a hip roof, so using regular insulation would have been a challenge. I went with closed cell spray foam. Hired a very highly rated company to do it, because doing it right is critical.

The result has been amazing. My heating/cooling bills went down significantly. I can work in the attic in the hottest/coldest weather and it's comfortable. I considered getting a small a/c unit, but so far I haven't needed to. I bought a supplemental wall mounted heater, but didn't have to use it.

The insulation has also improved the second floor. It used to get really hot as well. Now it's very comfortable.
 
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I recently finished redoing the attic in my 150 yr old house. Roof is a hip roof, so using regular insulation would have been a challenge. I went with closed cell spray foam. Hired a very highly rated company to do it, because doing it right is critical.

The result has been amazing. My heating/cooling bills went down significantly. I can work in the attic in the hottest/coldest weather and it's comfortable. I considered getting a small a/c unit, but so far I haven't needed to. I bought a supplemental wall mounted heater, but didn't have to use it.

The insulation has also improved the second floor. It used to get really hot as well. Now it's very comfortable.
What kind and how much insulation did you add.
 

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What kind and how much insulation did you add.
4" 0f 100% closed cell spray foam. I'm in the Northeast, so I passed on using any open cell foam.

Total cost for 2100 sq ft house with a 12/12 roof was about $9K. Company that did is was primarily commercial, but they do some residential as well.

My only complaint is that the installers didn't put down enough plastic on the floors, so half my hardwood floors got trashed. I made them come back and sand my floors. I'd planned on sanding them down anyway, so I got a free sanding out of the deal.
 

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4" 0f 100% closed cell spray foam. I'm in the Northeast, so I passed on using any open cell foam.

Total cost for 2100 sq ft house with a 12/12 roof was about $9K. Company that did is was primarily commercial, but they do some residential as well.

My only complaint is that the installers didn't put down enough plastic on the floors, so half my hardwood floors got trashed. I made them come back and sand my floors. I'd planned on sanding them down anyway, so I got a free sanding out of the deal.
Good for you regarding the floors. Is there any off gassing with that application? I have heard with some of those you need to leave your home for a few days.
 

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It was the attic. There was a slight smell for a few days, but not too bad. I covered it pretty quickly anyway because the stuff is not great with UV exposure.
 

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When we renovated and added a two story porch we also had spray foam added in the entire attic. Company removed all the old vermiculite in the floor of the attic, and then sprayed open cell foam across the underside of the entire roof deck. Very effective, and no issues at all with off-gassing, smells, etc. Attic is now only a few degrees warmer than the 2nd floor rooms under it, even when temps hit up 90's. The foam we used was Icynene, which had a little better R value than other choices, and it is supposed to be more environmentally friendly.

We did not cover the foam because there are no attic windows (therefore no UV) and we did not plan to have anything up there other than the A/C unit. If we had wanted to use the attic for storage space we were told we must either cover the foam (sheetrock, etc.) or have it sprayed with a flame retardant.
 

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For those of you who have insulated under the roof deck in an attic......

I've always been curious if it lowers the heat dissipation from the roof. I'm concerned it'll bake the roof shingles sooner than if the attic were not insulated.

The way our house is designed, the upstairs is always hot. The "stair room" just acts like a funnel to push & keep the heat up there. The attic floor is insulated but not the roof deck is not.

Thanks!
 
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I would love to reinsulate my upstairs, and if I do I'm using something similar to what these people did...

 
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