Houston Texas Barn/Garage Builder Selection help

[luckyc1423]

Building a 48x40 garage. 3 doors, 2 doors are 10' tall and 1 door 12' tall.

I am hopeful to get garage doors that will look like my house garage doors (building new home and garage at same time)

Is there anyone you can recommend or give me feedback on to have them build the garage/barn?

I am talking to:
1) Steel Garages & Shops
-- they build stick built barns. 2x6 wood framed, clear span, 26 gauge steel
2) mueller
-- i would have to find someone to install the building, i could do the cement on my own. any recommendations on installers?
3) hawthorn
-- still waiting on feedback/information from them.

 

[rjacobs]

Mueller will do everything if you want them to...at least the one I talked to here in South Dallas.

They quoted me $25 a sq. ft. done. I was asking about 30x40 and 40x40, sq, ft. price didnt change... did not include electrical, plumbing or insulation. Just slab, building and erection. That was 1 overhead door and 1 man door. So for your shop would be 48000 plus a little to get your other doors, I would guess 3-4k extra... Then extra for electrical and any plumbing and insulation.

 

[rustyshakelford]

Metal or pole barn preference? 5 star and archery both have great reputations. What part of Houston?

Brett

 

[luckyc1423]

I am Open to steel or stick

Muller in Conroe didn’t act like they do everything they said they had contractors they could recommend.

Hawthorn came in at $64k

Is muller or hawthorn better i wounder?

I am acting as general contractor for my house build (going through a owner builder group) so i am Going to have to deal with trades a lot, so i dont Mind dealing with trades if i had Go through mueller. Just don’t know enough about who
Is best and whether stick or steel is better

Mainly using it for storage, future boat storage, and “man cave”

 

[Hooked]

Did you check Whirlwind Steel Buildings near Hobby Airport? I've been buying from them for close to 40 years and always pleased with products and service. For construction, Whirlwind has a list of contractors whom they have confidence. In full disclosure, the only time I used a contractor was to do the roof on our 40x60 building. I think I still have the contact info but it's been over 10 years so it'll take some searching.

 

[dcg9381]

I'm in your state. I have a Mueller building. My understanding from family is that Mueller is (perhaps) a bit of a premium, but as the cost of steel is about 1/3 of the actual structure, it wasn't a big deal to me.

Bolt up buildings cost more here. The engineering and assembly has to be tighter and more spot on. These buildings get an engineer's stamp (may be required in some areas). Weld up is cheaper because it's final cut on site and they can be a bit more flexible in terms of how things go together.

Whatever you do - get the building design before the slab. You'll need plates in the slab for the building design.

Personally, I'd ask Mueller for a reference to 3 contractors and have them all bid your building.

Concrete is currently expensive in Texas.

A 12' door requires a 14' eve. Just to mention that if you go up 2' - a 14' door on a 16' eve, that's the size used by large RVs and trucks. It won't cost much more in materials or assembly. Recommend doing so - the next guy to buy your place may be looking for that 14' door.

You can get "panel" garage doors in these buildings. And you should, especially if you'll HVAC it, but they are not inexpensive. My building has basic roll up doors. They leak air like crazy and rattle like crazy in the wind.

 

[luckyc1423]

I am In Montgomery Texas.
Wow i thougjy Building cost was about half of the total cost (atleast that is what the mueller rep told me)
If the shop is 30k - installation and cement another 30 so total of 60

That not right?


Then how is Hawthorne only 60k?

Love all the feedback. I will call the guy by hobby. I know Hawthorne has built in the neighborhood we are building our house, not sure about mueller

 

[luckyc1423]

Just saw another one called Morton buildings

 

[Tractorsellr]

Metal or pole barn preference? 5 star and archery both have great reputations. What part of Houston?


Both these companies do good work. I have family in east Texas that have used both of these companies and very happy with their work.

 

[Simplytodd]

I’m in Montgomery county and I put up a Mueller building. Used one of their preferred contractors to do the slab and install the ridge louvres, trim and gutters. I was satisfied with their work if you want a reference.

Wow i thougjy Building cost was about half of the total cost (atleast that is what the mueller rep told me)
If the shop is 30k - installation and cement another 30 so total of 60

That sounds close on a engineered building depending on how much concrete your putting in.

 

[luckyc1423]

I am Just putting in enough concrete for the building and the lean to no drive way.

The driveway is considered part of my “house cost” so i am Not including that cost on the barn build.

Knowing that, is it safe to assume double the cost of the barn or no?

 

[69385vette]

I used Morton for my 30 x 54 x 12 building. Three 10 ft rollups and one walk-in door. Morton did it all. I am very pleased with the result. It took the crew 7 days after the foundation was done to complete the building.

 

[dcg9381]

Wow i thougjy Building cost was about half of the total cost (atleast that is what the mueller rep told me)
If the shop is 30k - installation and cement another 30 so total of 60

That not right?

For me, it was a 3 way split:
25K for foundation
24K for mueller steel building (40x60x16 - 3 x 14x14 doors)
21K for assembly labor.

No electrical, no insulation, etc. PM me if you want my detailed costs, I can get them to you via email.

 

[luckyc1423]

PM sent. Shocks me the slab would be that much. Mueller told me approximately $7/sf

 

[dcg9381]

PM sent. Shocks me the slab would be that much. Mueller told me approximately $7/sf

Concrete is a commodity around here and the construction industry is strong. I have a 5-6" slab, with 3 beams in it, not counting perimeter beam. And we had to handle a 3' slope over the 40' width (more concrete and some fill).

A wire-only 4" slab may very well be $7/sf - or it may be that concrete just doesn't cost as much down there....

 

[Marctrees]

Be aware that concrete for a Mueller and other steel pre fab type of buildings involves much more concrete and much much more steel reinforcing matl and labor than a slab for a pole barn or typical stick built building.

Marc

 

[bigdav160]

Be aware that concrete for a Mueller and other steel pre fab type of buildings involves much more concrete and much much more steel reinforcing matl and labor than a slab for a pole barn or typical stick built building.
Marc

It would seem the need for concrete piers under the columns would use less concrete then a perimeter grade beams required by stick framing.

Following because I need to put up a building in Somerville

 

[Marctrees]

I've been involved in 3 shop buildings...

stick built 3 stall detached garage in north MN - 4" "Floating slab" w minimal perimiter beam.

Mueller 4800 ft sq x 16 H near Corpus Christi , TX... IIRC - 18"x24" perimiter, and 20' squares in field divided by like 18" x ?18"? beams... TONS of rebar.. took experienced crew like 3 full days to lay and tie steel... and I think floor was 5"

And recent E TX 1300 ft sq Pole barn with the typical poly/ rebar 4" poured to "mud (lowest) girts"... nothing thicker anywhere except under overhead door slab edge.

Now, maybe my Mueller took all that $ in the slab cause in Hurricane rated area, I dont recall... but if so, OP is also hurricane being in Houston.

Marc

 

[dcg9381]

It would seem the need for concrete piers under the columns would use less concrete then a perimeter grade beams required by stick framing.

Following because I need to put up a building in Somerville

My understanding is that it depends on your soil conditions. The garage that I'm building currently has both beams and 10' columns - largely because the spot that it is built on is on a slope and has some unstable soil...

 

[Hooked]

Contact info for a contractor --- Facebook under Major Concrete Solutions. 2819602350.
I don't know him personally but have seen references to his work.

 

[luckyc1423]

Revisiting this.

I have A good handle on the building (going to do a mueller) and i have Concrete under control. I just Need the labor to erect it

I am In Montgomery Texas. Does this forum have any recommend folks that would just do the install?

 

[Marctrees]

When we bought Mueller they had a few independent erectors they had experience with.

Have you asked them ??

Marc

 

[luckyc1423]

Waiting on official building quote early next week before i ask Them but was hopeful someone on here had a good experience at a fair price that they might recommend

 

[My Old Tools]

I used a local Tyler builder and am very happy. You can find my build in the build section. They did concrete, engineering, erection, doors and windows, and insulation. They engineered a beam to support a 1 ton hoist and traveler as well.
https://www.metalbuildingsbymcm.com/

 

[benjy]

I had a helluva time getting folks to bid my 30x50 workshop, Morton was the only builder that really looked at the project and helped make the #s work for me. The rest plugged numbers in vs really looking at the site and figuring out a plan.

Plus, they stopped working before the roof went up because the roof insulation was damaged. I believe others may have tried to make it look better via tape/ paint, but these guys just cleaned up the site and came back as soon as the new insulation arrived.

Very happy with my Morton in Conroe, TX

 

[Shovelhead]

Very happy with my Morton in Conroe, TX

I've yet to see a better looking building than Morton.
I've also yet to see a more expensive building than Morton.

What did that Morton cost you a sq ft?

I've got a local bid in Deep East TX for a red iron framed shed 42x54 with a 12x54, 16x54 lean to's for just over $30 sq ft.

Concrete and shed, typical metal building vinyl insulation. No plumbing, no electrical.

 

[dcg9381]

Two years ago, it cost me about $33/sqft to have a 40x60x16 put up (Mueller) with a foundation. The cost was almost evenly split between foundation, building kit, and erection costs. Concrete has continued to increase in cost since then.

 

[tez929rr]

I have two Mueller buildings, a 40 by 60 and a 30 by 80. I would have hired the guy that did the first building for the second one but he got out of the business. There are lots and lots of mediocre steel building guys. Talk to references before you settle on one. Luckily I knew both of these guys beforehand.

 

[benjy]

Mine was $32/sf, with pier foundation, no slab, 14' walls & insulated ceiling. Plus a cupola. Very tight site, accessible from only two sides with eqmt.

I would reccomend 6" gutters over the 5" gutters.

 

[brianpgriset]

I got 4 different bids and ended up going with a place called Action. 30x60x14 stick frame with metal sheathing and 20ft overhang for $47k. Thats just concrete, building, and erection. No doors. 16 OC 2x6 studd. Hurricane rated. Im in Baytown. I liked the idea of stick built, i plan to finish the interor so I wont have to frame up the interior if I got steel.

I dont think they go to montgomery. The others i bid all came in 7k or so more.