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Uncle Buck

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I have an old Indestro 1/4" ratchet with a collapsed ball on the drive shaft. Obviously the spring beneath it collapsed or something. I suppose I could drill a tiny hole on the opposite side of the balland drive it out, but even if I were able to drive it out what would I do then? Any ideas? :headscrat
 
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I have an old Indestro 1/4" ratchet with a collapsed ball on the drive shaft. Obviously the spring beneath it collapsed or something. I suppose I could drill a tiny hole on the opposite side of the balland drive it out, but even if I were able to drive it out what would I do then? Any ideas? :headscrat

Sounds jammed to me,
Any pics??
 

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Had a detent ball inside a ratchet head that did the same thing - did as wrenchr suggests - soaked it and kept mashing on it with a punch. Finally loosened up and popped up enough to work. Won't help if the spring really is collapsed, but will if the spring is stuck with gunk.
 

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I'm soaking my Bonney flex head hoping that will work, I'm using CRC penetrent.
 

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I would start by soaking it in a light oil to try to work the thing loose to start
after some soaking I would also hit the head a few times with a mallet in a direction that would encourage the ball to move.

if you want to remove the ball you will need to get a hard tapered shaft that is the right size and try to put it in the hole and 'un-swedge' the edge of the hole so you can get the ball and spring out.
to re-swedge you will need a punch slightly bigger than the hole

bob
 
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if you want to remove the ball you will need to get a hard tapered shaft that is the right size and try to put it in the hole and 'un-swedge' the edge of the hole so you can get the ball and spring out.
to re-swedge you will need a punch slightly bigger than the hole

bob

Not bad advice but where are you going to find that unless you make it. Here is what Elroy did. Getting the ball out is a lot easier than re-staking the new one. Elroy took a die grinder and cut a groove in the ball with a small stone. After that the ball falls out. Then take a small round file and work the stake out so the new ball just goes in. Don't forget the new spring. Elroy then made a "staking tool" from a 1/4" ID drill bushing (nice and hard tool steel). The dent Elroy was repairing was on a 1/2" Drive tool that had a 1/4" ball. A 1/4" drive tool will require a smaller "drill bushing" to make the staking tool. Let the ball size call out the bushing.

Then grind a bevel on both the OD and ID on the bushing. The ID bevel being rather small. Then get a rod that is the appropriate size. Put the pin through the bushing and use it to depress the spring behind the detent ball. This aligns the staking tool over the ball. Cut the pin off so it is flush with the top of the drill bushing when the detent is depressed.

Line it all up with out disturbing the drill bushing location and strike the "tool" to stake the ball. It takes about 3 hands but it worked for Elroy.

Note, Before you strike the tool, the pin will be proud. The hammer will drive the pin and force the ball down below the staking surface before the stake is formed.

There are other ways but that is how Elroy repaired his. Good luck to ya.
 

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Take a regular nut or spacer with a larger inside diameter than the ball diameter. Secure nut tight around the ball againest the drive flat. Take a hammer and hit the nut hard. May take several hits. Hopefully the hits will force the ball to pop out.
 

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Not bad advice but where are you going to find that unless you make it. Here is what Elroy did. Getting the ball out is a lot easier than re-staking the new one. Elroy took a die grinder and cut a groove in the ball with a small stone. After that the ball falls out. Then take a small round file and work the stake out so the new ball just goes in. Don't forget the new spring. Elroy then made a "staking tool" from a 1/4" ID drill bushing (nice and hard tool steel). The dent Elroy was repairing was on a 1/2" Drive tool that had a 1/4" ball. A 1/4" drive tool will require a smaller "drill bushing" to make the staking tool. Let the ball size call out the bushing.

Then grind a bevel on both the OD and ID on the bushing. The ID bevel being rather small. Then get a rod that is the appropriate size. Put the pin through the bushing and use it to depress the spring behind the detent ball. This aligns the staking tool over the ball. Cut the pin off so it is flush with the top of the drill bushing when the detent is depressed.

Line it all up with out disturbing the drill bushing location and strike the "tool" to stake the ball. It takes about 3 hands but it worked for Elroy.

Note, Before you strike the tool, the pin will be proud. The hammer will drive the pin and force the ball down below the staking surface before the stake is formed.

There are other ways but that is how Elroy repaired his. Good luck to ya.

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: You know your stuff!!
 

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I would start by making it out of a punch that is about the right size

you could also use a taper pin to deswedge the hole

bob
 
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