How do you hang your wall cabinets?

[afbrian13]

Im hanging cabinets on my block walls this weekend. How do you guys do it? I know some guys just bolt them up like any other wall.

I was thinking of using cleats. Basically bolt a board the full width of the cabinet to the wall, with a 45deg cut on top, screw the opposite angle cut board to the cabinet and hang them up. I haven't decided to use two (top and bottom) or a straight board under the bottom edge, to help with weight.

These are just the old kitchen cabinets, and ill be putting books, magazines, and random tools in them.

What do you think of the wall cleat idea? I figure if i want to rearrange I can easily without putting new holes everywhere.

Thanks for your input and ideas!
Brian

 

[Architorture]

Use the cleat. 1 at the top should be sufficient for old kitchen cabinets, then just put a board behind the bottom to keep it the right distance off the wall.

Unless you were dealing with very heavy cabinets using 2 cleats is overkill and often difficult to get to align properly to be effective

 

[Twisted Sid]

Velcro

 

[Fizbin]

+1 for the cleats, they will distribute the weight more evenly. Also, it might be a good idea to use some sort of anchor screw/bolt if you're fastening them to cinder block.

All of my hanging cabinets and pegboards are on a cleat system and I've yet to have any problem with them. But they're attached to studs behind drywall, so YMMV.

 

[383 240z]

Cleats. It's so nice to be able to rearrange things as your shop's needs change. Keith

 

[theoldwizard1]

The proper term is "French cleat".

The issue is how do you attach the cleat the the block. I have had bad luck with Tapcons.

 

[aafadca]

That's how I hung mine in my basement and garage. The cleats work great if you have to hang the cabinets alone too. Just put the cabinets on the cleats and position them where you want. Make sure you have the cleats secured well with tapcons,etc.

 

[The Cobbler]

French Cleats

 

[fury9]

tapcons and heavy duty construction adhesive. Try to get the tapcons either right in the center of the block or the mortar joint or you'll jgo into the hollow part of the block. Another option that I use sometimes is to drill 1/8" holes in the block (and wood) and shove a piece of copper wire in the hole then pound the nail (16d) in, it's pretty strong coupled with the adhesive.

 

[afbrian13]

Thanks for the input. I was planning to pick up some more anchors tomorrow. "French" cleats it is.

 

[y'sguy]

wee wee

 

[mrodgers]

I'm loving french cleats. I covered 1 wall so far with 3 or 4 inch wide3/4 inch boards spaced every 9 inches going up the wall. I have made shelving brackets, hook brackets, and hung a couple of wooden ammo boxes for cabinets. All my table saw accessories are hanging on brackets with hooks on the wall, a 16 foot ladder, a handful of extension cords hanging on hooks, and I still have a ton of space yet to fill up just the 1 wall.

I'm going to do my back wall and each side of the garage door the same way floor to ceiling every 9 inches and half the wall next to the workbench (cabinets, workbench, and pegboard already cover half that wall from when I bought the house.)

With having boards every 9 inches floor to ceiling, I can move stuff around anywhere I want. I can stack cabinets above each other, or very easily pull them off and redistribute them side by side, or move to another wall.

 

[TAMPAGT07]

Ask Haugy......

 

[ozyborn]

24" grade 8 bolts through the entire wall and fastened to a 1/2" metal plate on the outside. Or use the french cleat.

 

[k-os]

For those of you hanging on french cleats (assuming using 3/4" plywood for cleats), what kind of screws are you using to attach the cabinets to the cleats? Are you attaching the cabinets directly to the mating cleat from 3/4" plywood, or are you adding some extra material between the cleat and the cabinet so you can use longer screws?

 

[dutchgray]

I use frame fixings to hang cabinets on masonry, it works well.

 

[210Hardtop]

24" grade 8 bolts through the entire wall and fastened to a 1/2" metal plate on the outside. Or use the french cleat.

lol lol

 

[NUTTSGT]

My back wall is concrete and I tapconned 2x4 to the walls with some insulation between the 2x4s. Then I screwed the cabinets up to the 2x4s.

 

[Tronyadorable]

Redhead in concrete.
French cleats on nonsense(not mine---I only do concrete)

 

[Architorture]

For those of you hanging on french cleats (assuming using 3/4" plywood for cleats), what kind of screws are you using to attach the cabinets to the cleats? Are you attaching the cabinets directly to the mating cleat from 3/4" plywood, or are you adding some extra material between the cleat and the cabinet so you can use longer screws?

For those of you hanging on french cleats (assuming using 3/4" plywood for cleats), what kind of screws are you using to attach the cabinets to the cleats? Are you attaching the cabinets directly to the mating cleat from 3/4" plywood, or are you adding some extra material between the cleat and the cabinet so you can use longer screws?

On the uppers I just screwed the cleat directly to the cabinet which already had a solid rail across thd top for mounting. On the base cabinets I reinforced the connection by placing 2x material across the top of the rear of the cabinet and also screwed the sides to it, since unlike the uppers they aren't designed to be hung.

Side note, I used cleats on thd base cabinets because I wanted the counter height to be 42" and to have the floor below clear for easy sweeping.

 

[theoldwizard1]

For those of you hanging on french cleats (assuming using 3/4" plywood for cleats), what kind of screws are you using to attach the cabinets to the cleats?

NOT drywall screws ! #10 or #12 wood or sheet metal screws.

Are you attaching the cabinets directly to the mating cleat ...[/QUOTE]
Yes. There should be some kind of more solid mount across the top, back of the cabinet. Screw through that. Cabinet backs are usually pretty weak.

 

[jaye944]

do you need cleats in block walls?

as in brick? I though you only need it in say drywall etc?

Im hanging cabinets on my block walls this weekend. How do you guys do it? I know some guys just bolt them up like any other wall.

I was thinking of using cleats. Basically bolt a board the full width of the cabinet to the wall, with a 45deg cut on top, screw the opposite angle cut board to the cabinet and hang them up. I haven't decided to use two (top and bottom) or a straight board under the bottom edge, to help with weight.

These are just the old kitchen cabinets, and ill be putting books, magazines, and random tools in them.

What do you think of the wall cleat idea? I figure if i want to rearrange I can easily without putting new holes everywhere.

Thanks for your input and ideas!
Brian

 

[jaye944]

ahh now that makes sense,

Cleats. It's so nice to be able to rearrange things as your shop's needs change. Keith

 

[bobss396]

I just did some in my garage, old kitchen cabinets. My exterior walls are concrete block and I attached some cleats using those blue screws that ACE hardware carries. Needed a 3/16" masonary bit to drill the holes. A bit of work but they're up solid.

 

[k-os]

On the uppers I just screwed the cleat directly to the cabinet which already had a solid rail across thd top for mounting. On the base cabinets I reinforced the connection by placing 2x material across the top of the rear of the cabinet and also screwed the sides to it, since unlike the uppers they aren't designed to be hung.

Side note, I used cleats on thd base cabinets because I wanted the counter height to be 42" and to have the floor below clear for easy sweeping.

In my case I'll be mounting 4 of the Gladiator 30" Wall Cabinets in my new garage. I'm worried about mounting directly to the cleat because I'll only have 3/4" of plywood to work with for screw into. I suppose I could screw it in from the backside and put a strip of wood along the top on the inside where the cleat will be mounted.

 

[Architorture]

In my case I'll be mounting 4 of the Gladiator 30" Wall Cabinets in my new garage. I'm worried about mounting directly to the cleat because I'll only have 3/4" of plywood to work with for screw into. I suppose I could screw it in from the backside and put a strip of wood along the top on the inside where the cleat will be mounted.

well just remember that the screws aren't experience a whole lot of force pulling them out of the plywood...most of the force is pulling down on them.

another option might be to recess a nut and washer into the "wall side" of the cleat and thread a bolt through the back of the cabinet to fasten them together.