How do you haul your welding bottles ?
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driftpin
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JATO! See Dr. Robert H Goddard
How is the tank secured to conform with DOT regulations? Sorry, but that looks like a Darwin Award candidate.
As 'a joke,' I'd hate to see someone else think, "It's ok to do that."
How is the tank secured to conform with DOT regulations? Sorry, but that looks like a Darwin Award candidate.
As 'a joke,' I'd hate to see someone else think, "It's ok to do that."
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Kpaige
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Usually one on each shoulder
BORING HOP YARD
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I have enough bottles that I wait for at least two bottles, I have them Laying down with the valves facing towards the cab and strapped together so they can't roll. I also strap them so they can't move side to side.
I also drive like I have about a ton of TNT in the bed of my truck, I have seen pictures of hauling bottles gone bad.
Be safe!
I also drive like I have about a ton of TNT in the bed of my truck, I have seen pictures of hauling bottles gone bad.
Be safe!
Zeke
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Nice shop. Even the parking meter is paid up.
The only place that they were welding helmets for MC helmets is Florida.
The only place that they were welding helmets for MC helmets is Florida.
msharley
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jack stand
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Git er done !
AC-WC
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For me I always put the caps on and haul laying down in the bed of the truck with wood blocks on each side to keep from rolling.
I always wince going down the highway when I see contractors with the hoses and regulators still connected and try to stay as far from them as possible. I'm not a safety fanatic but even I won't do that.
I always wince going down the highway when I see contractors with the hoses and regulators still connected and try to stay as far from them as possible. I'm not a safety fanatic but even I won't do that.
TurnipTruck
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I guess if trucks are big and scary but you need to do truck stuff…
I think she could fit TWO cylinders in that thing!
I think she could fit TWO cylinders in that thing!
Cap on and laying flat with 2 straps wrapped around them.
cvairwerks
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Flat in the truck bed and strapped to prevent movement. Cap towards the cab when going to and from the welding supply place. To the other house, flat, strapped and sideways between the tailgate and wheel wells.
CraigStu
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Mine fits laying on the floor between the rear seat and the center console. A pillow or old coat wadded up and jammed in so it can't roll the 1.5 inches extra space.
jar944
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When I only had a coupe.
engineer2
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What was the time recommendation for standing acetylene bottle upright before using them? I used to know it, but forgot.
cvairwerks
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30 minutes minimum, but I typically give them at least an hour when moved locally. Long distance, half a day or more.
Concealed is my preferred transport manner. (Secure also, of course.) I don't feel the need to invite trouble from authorities.
Maybe this is old tech, but I was taught at a welding course years ago that fuel cylinders (propane, acetylene, etc) shouldn't be laid horizontal (unless approved for it) because the valves aren't intended for liquid-fuel contact.
Maybe this is old tech, but I was taught at a welding course years ago that fuel cylinders (propane, acetylene, etc) shouldn't be laid horizontal (unless approved for it) because the valves aren't intended for liquid-fuel contact.
Firebrick43
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Son, That bike looks like it would be hardly able to haul that.
Zeke
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That could be, but there is an important reason not to lay acetylene bottles flat. You will end up with acetone liquid in your gauges. That will ruin them for sure. What I was told was IF you lay them, then they must be stood up and allowed to settle with the acetone/acetylene mixture to be absorbed once again with the medium at the bottom 2/3rds or so. A quick clip from the net:
"All acetylene cylinders contain a porous honeycomb material called a monolithic mass. They also contain a solvent (acetone) which is absorbed by the porous mass. The acetylene dissolves in the acetone and holds the acetylene in a stable condition."
It can take a few hours for a full bottle to stabilize. I say "a few hours" to be on the safe side. The actual time may be less. Be safe.
GrayFlattop
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I roll them out to the door one at a time when the Airgas truck gets here.
Monza Harry
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I'm pretty sure bottles of compressed gas, fuel or oxidizers need the caps for any transport (including in the building on the welding/welder cart, not that anybody goes that far) as well as needing to be vertical. They should not be in a closed space that isn't vented. So no car trunks, technically no vans or SUV's, that leaves only open P/U (w/cap with open windows), flat beds, curtain side trucks or roll tarped trucks. I won't pay for trucking and I have typically had vans, SUV's and now a mini P/U with hard tonneau, so I move mine illegally. [SHHHH!] I strap anything even remotely heavy sometimes excessively. Pick ups with a cap may be fine as it isn't connected to the drivers cabin and the tailgates aren't air tight, that will/may be at the interpretation of the road side proctoligist [LEO of authority] Harry
metalmagpie
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This is the way I came up with to clamp two cylinders to a rack:
http://nwnative.us/Grant/images/chainclamp.pdf
And this is the rack I made for transporting tanks vertically to swap them for new ones:
http://nwnative.us/Grant/images/chainclamp.pdf
And this is the rack I made for transporting tanks vertically to swap them for new ones:
Sounds right to me. Maybe I'm just paranoid but I roll all 4 windows down on my sedan and get ready to stick my head outside when I pickup bottles
.Crazyjake8493
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No truck here, so I lay them down in the back of the SUV and take it after work. AirGas is only Monday-Friday here and I only have about 45 minutes to get there (25 minutes away) when I get out of work, so I have to bring my empty tanks to work with me and rush there after work unless I take a day off for something else.
Crazyjake8493
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I can't imagine anyone would ever say anything about how you transport them unless you have a business vehicle. Not everyone owns a truck.
We haven't had a truck for the last 11 years and I've used our SUV to haul tanks of argon, CO2, nitrogen, C25, propane, oxygen, acetylene, cans of gas and diesel, you name it - all inside the vehicle.
aka Larry
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When I only had a coupe.
Same way I hauled mine before I got a truck.
Monza Harry
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I said I move mine however I can as well, I try and use the trailer when possible, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And this is all good until a noob wants to show his power, or worse there is an accident. Then you deal with the aftermath. It used to be [and may still be so] that you were supposed to have written permission of the bottles' owners to move them. Mostly [but not completely] excessive regulatory reach, I think/feel! I feel secure, vented, and vertical if at all possible is the intent of these laws. Harry
Edit: Somehow I lost Crazy Jake's "quote"
Edit: Somehow I lost Crazy Jake's "quote"
In my region anyway.... I can say that any transportation authority thats paying attention will have something to say about it. Just like visibly carrying more than 6 jerry cans in pickup; or easily seeing jerry cans thru a window of a car/suv/van.
Thats why I'll always keep a gas cylinder out of sight.
I just transported my 300cuft argon cylinder and picked up and filled a new 100lb (23gal) propane cylinder yesterday. Tractor Supply had the 100lb tank on sale for $129 down from $229.
Used the utility trailer, I transport them vertically. Wrapped a moving blanket around them, then strapped to a dolly and the dolly and tank strapped to the vertical back ramp of the utility trailer.
Used the utility trailer, I transport them vertically. Wrapped a moving blanket around them, then strapped to a dolly and the dolly and tank strapped to the vertical back ramp of the utility trailer.
Crazyjake8493
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Agreed. They'll never see mine in the back of the SUV anyway, nor would they be able to see my gas cans through the rear window.
It seems like one of those things that would never be an issue unless they really wanted to look for a reason to give you hard time, like a loud exhaust.
Crazyjake8493
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That feels more daring than just laying them down.
PhantomEB
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Only when I need to, and those times are always when the truck is down for something……
luckily for me it’s only 15 min to the welding shop and back, no issues putting it in the back seat of my car wrapped up in a blanket…
luckily for me it’s only 15 min to the welding shop and back, no issues putting it in the back seat of my car wrapped up in a blanket…
58Yeoman
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When I had my cutting torch, the supplier would wheel the tank to my truck, but wouldn't load it. That was up to me. I strapped it down to the bed hooks. Don't have to worry about that anymore, as I sold my torch set a couple years ago.
rustrunner
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I think OSHA says that they have to be transported vertically.
Propane is required to be transported vertically.
I've done the argon vertical and horizontal, vertical is easier to strap and secure.
Crazyjake8493
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I stand corrected, my propane does stay vertical behind the back seat. The rest of mine get laid down.
LS6 Tommy
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DOT frowns on trasnporting compressed gas cylinders laying down. Just sayin'...
LS6 Tommy
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OSHA allows transportation laying hoizontally, secured to a cart for "short durations". That is for non vehicluar transportation.
Tommy