Kevin54
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When you go to level something, what do you use? And when you use it, have you ever checked it against anything else? The reason I ask is in redoing my garage, I moved all of Gladiator cabinets from one wall to another wall. I used a Bullseye Laser Level (B&D). I measured down from the ceiling, made my mark, set the level at the mark then made a mark at each end. I decided to use the Gladiator mounting tracks, so I set the top of them to the line and fastened them up. After standing on the other side of the garage I looked at them and they looked bowed from one end to the other. I do have a pretty good eye for level and it did not look right. So I got the 6' level out and checked. It is out 3/4" from center to end in a 24' distance. In other words, each end at 12' is dropped 3/4". 
I had too many screws in the tracks to move them as there are 8 screws per track and 6 tracks up.
I went to the other wall and set up the laser level and made a couple of marks at the end and at the center where the level was mounted, then checked it against my 6' level and damn if it isn't out on each end. When the laser level is on and you stand 36' away from it across the room, you can actually see the drop on the line.
In the house garage I have some Gladiators mounted which I remember using the laser level so I checked them and in 12' they are dropped about 5/8"
So that B&D piece of poop is headed for the trash.
I would have thought that you could trust a laser level over a standard level all due to the fact that the bubble in the level vial, even if it is between the lines, if it is off just a hair (black one and not a red one) it magnifies over a long distance. That is why I wanted to use a laser level to get the distance all at once. That combined with the fact that I have a bad arm and cannot hold something 6' long and make a mark along that distance.
I also measured down from the ceiling, but I only did it in the middle to get my distance.
So when you guys measure out for stripes, borders, etc, what means do you use for going a long distance? I can't measure from the floor up due to the floor being sloped slightly. Ceiling down would have been best I guess if I had done it all the way, or from foundation blocks up. So have any of you used something like the B&D Bullseye with crappy results?
I had too many screws in the tracks to move them as there are 8 screws per track and 6 tracks up. I went to the other wall and set up the laser level and made a couple of marks at the end and at the center where the level was mounted, then checked it against my 6' level and damn if it isn't out on each end. When the laser level is on and you stand 36' away from it across the room, you can actually see the drop on the line.
In the house garage I have some Gladiators mounted which I remember using the laser level so I checked them and in 12' they are dropped about 5/8"
So that B&D piece of poop is headed for the trash.
I would have thought that you could trust a laser level over a standard level all due to the fact that the bubble in the level vial, even if it is between the lines, if it is off just a hair (black one and not a red one) it magnifies over a long distance. That is why I wanted to use a laser level to get the distance all at once. That combined with the fact that I have a bad arm and cannot hold something 6' long and make a mark along that distance.
I also measured down from the ceiling, but I only did it in the middle to get my distance.
So when you guys measure out for stripes, borders, etc, what means do you use for going a long distance? I can't measure from the floor up due to the floor being sloped slightly. Ceiling down would have been best I guess if I had done it all the way, or from foundation blocks up. So have any of you used something like the B&D Bullseye with crappy results?
