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How does this CL scam work? Snap On Boxes....

Mohawk Dave

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Ok, just checked CL again. I see 3 SO Classic 78 boxes in a row. Black, red, and blue. Same type of ad. But different cities and different phone numbers. (Cities are close together). No other ads for these numbers.

I haven't called dude for interrogation yet, b/c it's almost 2am.

Evidence suggests that it is the same driveway, garage, and house.

Any ideas? Suspicious to say the least.

Here's the links:
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/3965944852.html
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/3965948374.html http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/tls/3995106682.html
 
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3 different phones makes me assume they are burners. Only reason you need a burner com is if items are hot. And if they are hot, how the hell did you sneak off with those? Can't exactly put them in your pocket.

And then how do you meet in person without a worry?

Assumptions..all the aforementioned is assumptions.
 

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And then how do you meet in person without a worry?

bring your own "gang" and arrive in 3 vehicles fully loaded with your gang members. be ready to exchange fire, but keep it concealed. helps some times if everyone on your side has tattoos and shaved heads. and definitely have one guy who wears an eye patch.
 
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bring your own "gang" and arrive in 3 vehicles fully loaded with your gang members. be ready to exchange fire, but keep it concealed. helps some times if everyone on your side has tattoos and shaved heads. and definitely have one guy who wears an eye patch.

You see...that's how I like to buy tool boxes. Keeps it interesting!:evil:
 

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bring your own "gang" and arrive in 3 vehicles fully loaded with your gang members. be ready to exchange fire, but keep it concealed. helps some times if everyone on your side has tattoos and shaved heads. and definitely have one guy who wears an eye patch.

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bring your own "gang" and arrive in 3 vehicles fully loaded with your gang members. be ready to exchange fire, but keep it concealed. helps some times if everyone on your side has tattoos and shaved heads. and definitely have one guy who wears an eye patch.

One eye patch is out of fashion...Two eye patches is what their wearing on 7Th Av.......:willy_nil
 

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3 different phones makes me assume they are burners. Only reason you need a burner com is if items are hot. And if they are hot, how the hell did you sneak off with those? Can't exactly put them in your pocket.

And then how do you meet in person without a worry?

Assumptions..all the aforementioned is assumptions.

Ways to steal expensive tool boxes that can be purchased with credit.

1. You, and possibly some co-workers of yours work at a shop that hires people who are available who seem to know what they're doing. Whether they actually know is of little importance. Each of you purchases an expensive box either using your own credit info, whose credit score you don't care about, or using stolen credit info. You, and possibly your colleagues, leave job due to being fired, about to be fired, or before some scam or other issue is discovered. You and your possible colleagues take your unpaid boxes with you. You try to sell the boxes off as discreately as possible since money is still owed on them, which includes burner phones, and alternate locations, with real locations provided when someone calls.

2. Similar to above,but the shop where you worked was owned or run by you and possibly your friends. The shop has to close due to running out of money, bad business practices, dishonest business practices, illegal side business practices, or because you installed hiden compartments used by drug dealers and the DEA or FBI is looking to bust you. When you shut down the business you take anything movable of value with you to sell. Let Snap-On take the loss and try to sue a closed business.

3. The boxes are stolen from a business due to a break-in. Maybe the business was shut down temporarily due to vacation, repairs, company holiday etc. Business won't find out immediately that the boxes are stolen.

4. Seller stole them from a storage locker and is posting them discreately in case someone can go back and check thru past listings.

5. The seller works for a company that has purchased Snap-On boxes for the use of it's employees. These boxes were not being used and he pinched them while nobody was looking and is hoping to sell them discreately before someone does an audit. The seller is being discrete so no one can track him later.

Alternately the boxes aren't stolen but are being sold discretely for some other reasons.

1. Person who owns the boxes is getting divorced and wants to sell them discretely before his wife and/or her lawyer finds out how many he has or what they're worth. May prefer cash so there is no way to track the extra money.

2. They're paid off but the owner owes lots of money and is trying to sell them so there is no way for his creditors or the courts to track money he recieved.

3. Owner is simply paranoid due to all the stories about the NSA, or that someone will track down were he lives and steal any tools he still has.


:dunno::eyecrazy::dunno::eyecrazy::dunno::eyecrazy::dunno::eyecrazy::dunno::eyecrazy:
 

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3. Owner is simply paranoid due to all the stories about the NSA

Are you crazy... Don't you know if you type the letters NSA into the internet
you create a flag, and then the NSA will start getting people to check you
out and find out about all your dirty little secrets.... The worse thing is if you
type NSA three times in one post they WILL send people to get you and take you
away.... Just a heads up for the future... Anyway I gotta go, someones at the door.
 

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They are all owned by the same person. Look close at the landscaping bricks, color of house, and white tall fence. Screams scam from the way they positioned them different places around the house, not to mention the 3 completely different phone numbers.
 

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Definitely the same house, as picket fence is same, along with orangish brick on house.

Only possibe legit reason is he is "consignor" for helping people sell box. Thus, he takes pics and puts up the CL ad for a fee.

Only will know for sure if you do some "mystery shopping" and the voice that answers phone on all 3 numbers is same guy.

Let the detective work begin !! ;) . . :D
 

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I use a gophone for craigslist sale because I don't want my actual phone # known by a CL idiot that thinks every item comes with an unlimited warranty. He could also be using a Google phone#


On the subject of boxes, that seems to be the going price for a classic 78 on CL around here.
 
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Actually I was on CL and I saw a toolbox that looked EXACTLY like my 99$ HF toolbox, and I even saw the 4 bolt pattern in back that I had trouble getting a socket around the edges... except it said MATCO instead of general, or whatever the HF brand is. It looked to me like they just put together a HF toolbox and swapped the logos to be honest.

and it was in a bad part of town etc.
 

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You guy's are very suspicious...

Could it possibly just be a Snap On dealer who want's to unload a few
very cheap boxes he got, and isn't really allowed to sell them like this.
 

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These are definitely similar ads. The key words at the bottom of each of the three ads is identical. Also - the posted timestamp for two of the three ads is two minutes apart. The updated timestamp is identical for all three ads.
 

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3. Owner is simply paranoid due to all the stories about the N$A

Are you crazy... Don't you know if you type the letters N$A into the internet
you create a flag, and then the N$A will start getting people to check you
out and find out about all your dirty little secrets.... The worse thing is if you
type N$A three times in one post they WILL send people to get you and take you
away.... Just a heads up for the future... Anyway I gotta go, someones at the door.

To avoid that pitfall, notice I changed the letter "S" in that acronym to a "$" sign, so when I quote you I won't have the same problem as you.

Hey, someone's at my door too! :lol_hitti
 

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Probably just someone with access to SEP pricing trying to make a buck. The SEP price on a classic 78 is 2100 brand new and includes a 400 dollar SO gift card and at times additional incentives.
 

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It is suspicious.

My remaining guess is that someone is using a student or corporate discount.

(My first guess was that they were stolen, and the seller was using a picture that they got from a google search to avoid the owner recognizing their own box. But that doesn't fit the pattern.)
 

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Well, I dunno 'bout suspicious but I answered some CL adds awhile back that turned out to be 3 pawn shops in Wichita on the same street next door and across the street from each other.

Pics in the adds were in home/garage setting, not on the sales floor.

Man, its all a conspiracy.

Dave.
 
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If I were to concurrently sell all 4 of my Listas, 4 Vidmars, and 3 Lyons, would you think that there is a scam? :beer:

Would you use 3 different phone numbers? That's a lot of phones to carry! :beer:

By the way, you wanna sell them? I'll call 3 different numbers if the price is right. :lol_hitti
 

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Did you "mystery shop" that seller(s) Mohawk Dave ??

Call the numbers using *69 so your number is blocked and see what you can find out.

It actually looks legit due to the appropriate pricing and effort the guy went on each CL post.

The obvious scams are those IN ALL CAPS where the CL ***** also posts website picture rather than actual picture.

Let us know what you find out !! ;)
 

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Did you "mystery shop" that seller(s) Mohawk Dave ??

Call the numbers using *69 so your number is blocked and see what you can find out.

It actually looks legit due to the appropriate pricing and effort the guy went on each CL post.

The obvious scams are those IN ALL CAPS where the CL ***** also posts website picture rather than actual picture.

Let us know what you find out !! ;)

*69 is used to call the last number that called you.

*67 is the one that blocks your number.
 
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