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JABgj

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This is a new-to-me mill cutter I picked up in a pawn shop buy. Seems to be in pretty good shape. I want to loosen the bolts that clamp the inserts but they do not want to move with out a lot of force. I doubt the bolts are rusted and I don't want to break anything. Is there I trick I am missing? Could Loctite be involved? I don't know what is normal for this sort of cutter. Any advise would be appreciated.
 

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A couple of things. The insert- screws can get tight due to the heat cycling. Also, in some cutter designs, the screws are purposefully offset by ~0.002" from the centerline which crowds the insert into the machined pocket. But bottom line bends the screw on a micro scale.

I would do the typical Kroil soak for a few days. One could also put it into the oven at ~300F and soak it for an hour and see if that helps as well, before employing more radical techniques.

When that is all over it will be time to decipher the insert size used. Early cutters were really poor about denoting the type (e.g. AKPT) of insert to be used. But hopefully a MFG name is on the cutterhead, and armed with that and or the model number you can back-search the proper insert. Kennametal has .pdf drawings on their cutters one can get from customer service with the proper insert type noted.

And THEN you get to pick the GRADE of insert...which in any given carbide manufacturer's lineup takes a fair bit of study to determine which is the one you want. In general terms there are super hard brittle inserts which last a very long time, or softer carbides which wear out quicker but can take more abuse from interrupted cuts, etc.
 
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Nice cutter by the way. I have a 3 inch Seco face mill that I use. Has the same inserts and cutting geometry.
 

Jason280

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Yeah, looks like a nice cutter...how much did it end up costing?
 
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JABgj

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Left hand threads? Did not even occur to me to try that. I have it at work now with some Kroil on it and I will give that a try on Monday. The cutter came in a pawn shop purchase and I have sold off a few things so this mill cutter and a handful of other tools ended up being free.
 

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I have a number of these cutters. The one from Seco and four or five that are Polish imports. They all tighten the insert via left hand threads.
 
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JABgj

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Bingo! Left hand threads for the win and they were not even that tight (except for the 2 that I "loosened"). I guess I will have to find my NOOB hat and wear it for the rest of the day. Thanks for the help everyone.
 
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