How much extra 6/3 romex should I order

[branimal]

I've got to wire an electrical stove (6/3) and an electric dryer (10/3). I've calculated the run from the panel to the destination including the vertical rises and drops.

I'd like to direct wire the appliances. I know the wire isn't going to pull straight, and there might be unforseen obstacles. No sheetrock up yet. Just the framing.

How much extra should I order? I'm ordering by the foot.

6/3 romex - 46 ft
10/3 53 romex 53 ft

 

[Innovate1]

No way to estimate how much for your situation. If you are pretty sure of your length a couple feet extra would be enough. You could pull a rope along the path and measure that. I would still add a bit because the rope can bend more at turns than the wire and you need a little slack at the bends.

 

[Boatman62]

When ordering cabling by the foot I've tacked up a stiff extension cord in the route. This has given me the best estimate and Ive always added a couple extra feet. And then had to cut off almost exactly the extra I ordered.

 

[mike93lx]

When ordering cabling by the foot I've tacked up a stiff extension cord in the route. This has given me the best estimate and Ive always added a couple extra feet. And then had to cut off almost exactly the extra I ordered.

Could also use Mason line and a stapler.

@branimal if you can make 50ft work, you may find that the price is better in a precut coil than buying by the foot

 

[wyliesdiesels]

I've got to wire an electrical stove (6/3) and an electric dryer (10/3). I've calculated the run from the panel to the destination including the vertical rises and drops.

I'd like to direct wire the appliances. I know the wire isn't going to pull straight, and there might be unforseen obstacles. No sheetrock up yet. Just the framing.

How much extra should I order? I'm ordering by the foot.

6/3 romex - 46 ft
10/3 53 romex 53 ft

for the stove that may work but i wouldnt hardwire the dryer...

 

[mike93lx]

for the stove that may work but i wouldnt hardwire the dryer...

Great point.

I wouldn't hardwire either. It's nice to be able to easily slide out an appliance that gets dirty behind it in normal use.

The dryer needs to come out periodically for cleaning the vent anyway.

Saving a few bucks on a plug and cord is not worth it, IMO

 

[Innovate1]

I overlooked the direct wire bit. I agree that receptacle and plug is the way to go for most. I did have a dual fuel stove (gas burners and electric oven) that came with a whip and a threaded conduit end so I ran that to a box that could have held a receptacle and put a blank cover plate on it. Which could be converted to a receptacle easily. All the others I have ever used were cord and plug.

 

[wazzabie]

At Home Depot it is cheaper to buy the 125ft then the 75ft spool. I would buy the 125ft and then sell what you don't need.

 

[Boatman62]

Could also use Mason line and a stapler.

@branimal if you can make 50ft work, you may find that the price is better in a precut coil than buying by the foot

It's been my experience that the heavy cord gives a better estimate. It approximates the bends better than string. It was just a suggestion.

 

[mike93lx]

It's been my experience that the heavy cord gives a better estimate. It approximates the bends better than string. It was just a suggestion.

Please don't take mine as a knock on yours. I agree, it's better and more representative of the end result. Just throwing something lighter out there as an alternative that might be easier to run through tight areas.

 

[Noltz]

I tacked on 5M extra and ended up with about 4M surplus. I'd do it again.

 

[Jesse69]

I found that wire may be cheaper at electrical house than Home Depot. I would price out if you got time.

 

[mike93lx]

I found that wire may be cheaper at electrical house than Home Depot. I would price out if you got time.

I've found that supply houses usually can't compete with the big boxes on stuff thats normally on the shelves. Doesn't hurt to check, but the supply houses are trying to be the low price leaders. They want to be the one stop shop for pros.

Wireandcableyourway.com usually had good prices

 

[Jesse69]

Yes its vary competitive out there, i bought 3 -4AWT (copper )cable 350‘ or so was giving the contractors discount save about 3500. Way cheaper than home depot Aluminum cable would have been.

 

[mike93lx]

Yes its vary competitive out there, i bought 3 -4AWT (copper )cable 350‘ or so was giving the contractors discount save about 3500. Way cheaper than home depot Aluminum cable would have been.

That's not really the kind of thing that home depots tend to keep on the shelves. #6 romex is, though

 

[branimal]

I used the extension cord method with 18" past the bottom on the panel and 12" past the bottom of the outlet box. Then I added 2' to the length.

As someone above mentioned, I will end up cutting off the 2' I added, and then some.

As far as pricing, it was cheaper to go by the foot @ an electrical supply house vs getting a prepackaged roll.

Romex 10/3 was $1.85/ft
Romex 6/3 was $4.45/ft

Anyone know the staple size I need for 6/3 Romex?

Thanks for the help guys.

 

[mike93lx]

Gardner Bender 13/16 in. Metal Insulated Service Entrance Staple (50-Pack) MSI-5310 - The Home Depot

Gardner Bender provides a complete line of staple and fastening solutions for all industries, including industrial, residential, construction, or manufacturing. From low voltage wire to service entrance

www.homedepot.com

All the packages should be labeled with wire sizes.

 

[cherokee]

At Home Depot it is cheaper to buy the 125ft then the 75ft spool. I would buy the 125ft and then sell what you don't need.

Just hang onto it, it will never "go bad". And there will always be a "next thing".

 

[dogdog]

romex legal in multi family homes in nyc now ? (signal family is a yes)

Might be cheaper with local electrical supplier cash. I paid THHN roughly $90 for 100 feet per wire about three or four weeks ago....

 

[dcg9381]

Just hang onto it, it will never "go bad". And there will always be a "next thing".

Over the last 3 years, it's actually appreciated in value quite a bit.
For a job like this, I'm doing a +10' minimum.

 

[PCustoms]

romex legal in multi family homes in nyc now ? (signal family is a yes)

Might be cheaper with local electrical supplier cash. I paid THHN roughly $90 for 100 feet per wire about three or four weeks ago....

Everytime the OP posts a question I scratch my head trying to figure out how he's legally doing all this work in a multi family.....

 

[dogdog]

Everytime the OP posts a question I scratch my head trying to figure out how he's legally doing all this work in a multi family.....

It’s legal to do renovation work in on your own home, it not like you are building a new house. You can knock Down your whole home down to remaining 30% and still consider that a renovation. Just the problem now a days the department of building screws home owners in many other ways since you moved. Some thing still remains the same, no Romex and no pvc on multi family homes for some odd reasons, maybe they have changed it.
.

 

[PCustoms]

It’s legal to do renovation work in on your own home, it not like you are building a new house. You can knock Down your whole home down to remaining 30% and still consider that a renovation. Just the problem now a days the department of building screws home owners in many other ways since you moved. Some thing still remains the same, no Romex and no pvc on multi family homes for some odd reasons, maybe they have changed it.
.

Up here I can do whatever I want in my own home.

If I am renting it out, or if it is a duplex, I need permits, contractors and inspections.

 

[dogdog]

Up here I can do whatever I want in my own home.

If I am renting it out if it is a duplex I need permits, contractors and inspections.

You must have lived in a “upscale” neighborhood like my friends in Pelham, if you change a kitchen faucet, you need a permit and inspection….. yeah I will never moved into those townships.

 

[mike93lx]

Everyone knows that multifamily electrons are spicier

 

[dogdog]

Everyone knows that multifamily electrons are spicier

Lol more pudding.

 

[dogdog]

Maybe dry run your wire with a rope and measure that, add 10% and round up to next 10s digits. That is what I would do or did. Sure it’s a waste but it’s not like you are better off if you ran short.

Flexible metal conduit is still good.

 

[branimal]

romex legal in multi family homes in nyc now ? (signal family is a yes)

Might be cheaper with local electrical supplier cash. I paid THHN roughly $90 for 100 feet per wire about three or four weeks ago....

Romex allowed in multi-families not exceeding 3 stories above grade.

Pvc is allowed as well- don’t have the exact rule in front of me.

 

[dcg9381]

Up here I can do whatever I want in my own home.

If I am renting it out, or if it is a duplex, I need permits, contractors and inspections.

But you can do whatever you want to your own home and rent it out later.

 

[cherokee]

Over the last 3 years, it's actually appreciated in value quite a bit.
For a job like this, I'm doing a +10' minimum.

So very true, soon copper will be just like gold or silver.

 

[Bert_]

I've all but stopped running #6 for stoves. 8-3 is also acceptable. I've seen stoves run on a 30 and never trip, so I have no problem with a 40A circuit

 

[nadogail]

The way things are done in New York doesn’t mean **** here.
California is it’s own Separate Reality.