How the Phillips Screwdriver Took Over America

[ssdave]

I use Kreg screws. They've been okay. I have a large batch of Robertson drive wood screws, and I've had nothing but trouble with them. I tried to use them on concrete forms, and they wouldn't work. The heads strip out. I've also used Robertson drive tile backer board screws. They eat bits, I think doing my last house I ran through more than a 20 pack of bits on about half a 600 sf job. Dewalt bits, was part of the problem, plus just a demanding application, plus my Son helping and he's not as skilled in use of the screw gun. Finally went down and bought phillips head ones instead, and did the rest of the job one one Zephyr phillips #2 bit. It cams out on refusal instead of holding and stripping.

I don't have a lot of problems using Phillips screws. I do go through a few bits, but I buy Zephyr driver bits and that's cut way down on the stripping out problem. That, and using Snap-on #2 screwdrivers. They do need replaced periodically as they get worn from slippage.

 

[Al Borland]

Phillips heads are part of the Deep State plot to keep us busy (Removing, repairing, cursing, etc...) so we don't notice their evil plot to make Torx look good.
Dammit, where's my tinfoil hat!!

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

I use Kreg screws. They've been okay. I have a large batch of Robertson drive wood screws, and I've had nothing but trouble with them. I tried to use them on concrete forms, and they wouldn't work. The heads strip out. I've also used Robertson drive tile backer board screws. They eat bits, I think doing my last house I ran through more than a 20 pack of bits on about half a 600 sf job. Dewalt bits, was part of the problem, plus just a demanding application, plus my Son helping and he's not as skilled in use of the screw gun. Finally went down and bought phillips head ones instead, and did the rest of the job one one Zephyr phillips #2 bit. It cams out on refusal instead of holding and stripping.

I don't have a lot of problems using Phillips screws. I do go through a few bits, but I buy Zephyr driver bits and that's cut way down on the stripping out problem. That, and using Snap-on #2 screwdrivers. They do need replaced periodically as they get worn from slippage.

What is a Kreg screw? Just wondering I have never heard of that.


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[PugetDude]

It is extremely difficult to believe that this one company does things better and cheaper. You aren't the first person I've seen say the Robertson screwdrivers are the only good square screwdrivers, but it feels like hyperbole.

Any good places online I can order one from to check one out? Might be curious to put my money where my mouth is and check one out... if I can get them in the US for low cost. Even if I search Amazon.ca, I'm seeing third party brands. First non-"sponsored" result in a search for Robertson Screwdriver is a Tekton. Ugh, no thanks.

McFeelys is where I bought my Robertson drivers with the inset tips.

 

[Downwindtracker 2]

What is a Kreg screw? Just wondering I have never heard of that.


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There is likely a correct name for that screw head, it's like a round head with a washer attached. Here is a Kreg jig https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/sho...CdrZNCZ9SbjmEEEffupt11o-zSbF1DHgaAvorEALw_wcB

It's a woodworking tool, the main use is making the cabinet door frames for cupboards. It is invaluable in RV repair where you would be slicing in good wood after removing the rotten wood.

 

[BlakeTheCarGuy]

There is likely a correct name for that screw head, it's like a round head with a washer attached. Here is a Kreg jig https://www.leevalley.com/en-ca/sho...CdrZNCZ9SbjmEEEffupt11o-zSbF1DHgaAvorEALw_wcB



It's a woodworking tool, the main use is making the cabinet door frames for cupboards. It is invaluable in RV repair where you would be slicing in good wood after removing the rotten wood.

Oh ok that’s cool I think I may have seen those before just didn’t know the name.


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