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JamieK

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Sorry,but I couldn't think of a better title for the thread. Anyway, long time lurker, first time poster here. My current garage is a two car inline drive-in basement, and I am either going to be remodeling my current house and building a garage, or buying a house with a garage in the future. Anyway, heres my question. I was going to dinner last night, and passed a house with an absolutely gorgeous garage behind it. I would really like to find out more details about the garage (size, builder, a look inside). How's the best way to approach the people? I know snooping around would get me shot! Should I just knock on the door and give them a compliment and try to start a conversation? And hope I'm not bothering them. Or drop a note in the mailbox with my phone number? How would y'all want someone to ask you about your garages?

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Personally, if I am outside and in my yard and not in my garage, I dont usually mind a conversation over the fence kind of thing. but if I am in the garage doing something, dont just come walking through the fence to talk. Drop a note in the mailbox with a phone number.

Some are a little particular about showing their stuff off to strangers, security and such. But most guys love to talk about their garages.
 

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I would wait until you see somebody in the garage and then just stop and say hi. I would recommend not being too snoopy. Think about it from their perspective--you could be a really ballsy thief that is casing the join. I would recommend complementing the person on their garage and then mention why you are interested.... and see where the conversation takes you....
 

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This is a tough question for me. If you lived in my neighbor hood or I knew you, I would gladly show you around, discuss my garage, etc.

But if you are from some where else, I would be some what "on guard". Is he just checking to see what I have? and then break into my garage later?

I suggest you find out if you know anyone who knows this guy. Get them to introduce you to the garage owner. Then the security issue are a non-issue.

Another method would be to knock on their door, and asked who built the garage, get the builder info, and ask if they would recommend that builder. Tell them you are planning on building a garage and like what you see on their property. Do not ask for a tour, or any details, depending on the owner, he may/may not show you around.
 

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I'm with Bimmer on this. Stop if they are outside, compliment, and whatever you do DO NOT ask to see the inside of the garage unless offered. Show them your drivers license if need be to help show you are legit, or give them your name and address and ask them to stop over and give you some pointers on remodeling your garage. Heck...even point them to this website. But whatever you do, go out of your way to not look like you are casing the place.
 

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The general consensus to approach the owner if he is in his yard is the best way to strike up a conversation. Introduce yourself with name, address and intentions about your project. Do not ask for a tour of the garage space even if you can see into the garage. I like the idea , if the owners sounds like he would enjoy the site, to let him know about GJ. If he offers a tour, take him up on it. Unfortunately, people who have investments in their tools etc.. must be careful of whom they let into their "sacred space". I had someone approach me last year while the garage space was visible to ask a question regarding my son's restroration project. I was not too sure about him and had never seen him before. Three large dogs, loose in the garage, stopped him from walking directly into the garage. I have never seen this person since then and thankfully have not had any problems with the security of the garage. So, walk and talk softly with this person, who knows, you may just make a new garage friend
 

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If you approached me, you would need a sweater from my coldness to you. I would assume you were casing my place.
It seems like there are plenty of garage pictures right here on this site to help you in your quest for info. Don't you have any friends, or friends of friends with garages to check out? I know you say you have good intentions, but if you showed up in my yard the message delivered is "you are creepy".
 

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I waited till I saw someone outside to talk to. He was more than happy to talk about it. Took me a couple of weeks though because he around the block a ways. Dog got a lot of walks.
 

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I've done the ol' note in the mailbox route a bunch of times. I leave my phone number and a short explanation of why I'm interested. Surprisingly, I've gotten a 100% call back rate (literally over a dozen instances) and in each case the owner has been willing to answer questions as well as allow me to check out the building with them.
 

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Note in the mailbox requesting a call. Compliment the guy on a nice garage and chances are you will get a call back.
 
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You guys have some good ideas. I have had people approach me before while I was in the yard, and it is kinda creepy. The house is way out of the way from me, so it would be hard to drive by until I saw someone out. I guess the note in the mailbox would be the best idea. And your right, I will definitely not ask to see inside unless they offer.

Jamie
 

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Yeah, the note works good I'd think. Most guys are proud of their setup and love to talk about it; know I do!
 

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What kind of business are you in? Leave your note on the back of your business card along with a home and/or cell number. That way he can give you a call at work, might help to see if you are "legit."

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Def approach while owner is outside. People who just walk into my garage usually get met with an armed response.

Same here; with all the scam artists, conmen, theives, etc these days, folks are leary of anyone approaching them. Sad, but that is the nature of the environment today in most cities.

The last guy who came on my property quickly did an about face when he saw the holstered .357 on my hip.:thumbup:
 

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A couple just today walked up the driveway and asked if my siding was wood or vinyl, said they were in the process of redoing their house and garage and liked the color.. its a dark green.. They thanked me a lot and left happy... no problem...
 

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We did this a couple months ago. Neighbor we don't know down the street had a lot of work done, looked very nice.
My wife put a note on their door with our address and phone number. They called and we had a nice chat.

HOWEVER,
1. We left our contact information, so they knew who we were.
2. My WIFE made the contact. People are always more leery of men, so when she signed her name it was much less threatening than if I had signed.

If you have a wife/GF/significant other, get her to make the contact. Trust me, people are much more receptive to woman asking snoopy questions than a guy.
 

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Def approach while owner is outside. People who just walk into my garage usually get met with an armed response.

Yep... I do not like strangers just rolling up; especially at night. A cold scare and the realization I'm carrying usually sets the proper tone. I am always wary of theives so I am careful about people seeing what's in the garage or house.


I think you need to assess what might be normal for your area and decide wheather a note or a friendly "How ya doin'" in the front yard is the best way to go.
 

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We did this a couple months ago. Neighbor we don't know down the street had a lot of work done, looked very nice.
My wife put a note on their door with our address and phone number. They called and we had a nice chat.

HOWEVER,
1. We left our contact information, so they knew who we were.
2. My WIFE made the contact. People are always more leery of men, so when she signed her name it was much less threatening than if I had signed.

If you have a wife/GF/significant other, get her to make the contact. Trust me, people are much more receptive to woman asking snoopy questions than a guy.

Good point about the wife. Also, if he permits a visit to look-see, take along a small child (if your have one), this is also less threatening.
 
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If you approached me, you would need a sweater from my coldness to you. I would assume you were casing my place.

Def approach while owner is outside. People who just walk into my garage usually get met with an armed response.

The last guy who came on my property quickly did an about face when he saw the holstered .357 on my hip.:thumbup:

Yep... I do not like strangers just rolling up; especially at night. A cold scare and the realization I'm carrying usually sets the proper tone. I am always wary of theives so I am careful about people seeing what's in the garage or house.

OMG :wtf: I definitely wouldn't want to walk up the drive of some gun-toting paranoid freak! :bounce::bounce: Can't say I've ever been "met with an armed response".....however, anytime I've walked up someones drive - or had someone walk up mine - none of us where nuts!!!:thumbup:

Good point about the wife. Also, if he permits a visit to look-see, take along a small child (if your have one), this is also less threatening.

Should he also get down on all fours, drag his chest on the ground, avoid eye contact....maybe pee himself a little?? For Chist's sake, what is your neighbourhood coming to??? People walk up to my place all the time and say how's it going, nice shop/cars....and I say: "Come on in! I'm not afraid of you and I aint packin' !!!":beer::beer:
 

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OMG :wtf: I definitely wouldn't want to walk up the drive of some gun-toting paranoid freak! :bounce::bounce: Can't say I've ever been "met with an armed response".....however, anytime I've walked up someones drive - or had someone walk up mine - none of us where nuts!!!:thumbup:

E-tek, I never said I was armed. About the only time I am at home is if I am expecting someone. (like to buy a car or something). But if someone I don't know strolls up to MY place and wants to chit chat then I'm going to assume there is an alterer motive. I'm at least no more nuts than you are.:beer:
 

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OMG :wtf: I definitely wouldn't want to walk up the drive of some gun-toting paranoid freak! :bounce::bounce: Can't say I've ever been "met with an armed response".....however, anytime I've walked up someones drive - or had someone walk up mine - none of us where nuts!!!:thumbup:



Should he also get down on all fours, drag his chest on the ground, avoid eye contact....maybe pee himself a little?? For Chist's sake, what is your neighbourhood coming to??? People walk up to my place all the time and say how's it going, nice shop/cars....and I say: "Come on in! I'm not afraid of you and I aint packin' !!!":beer::beer:

We don't all live on your street.

We have people who think like you do here, but not for long before they either get robbed, murdered, mugged, raped or assaulted.

We don't all live where people are nice to each other.
Here, the average person is not a citizen, feels it's OK to steal, feels that violence is a good thing.
Lots of different cultures here. Only the European ones ( a SMALL minority) see anything wrong with violence. Most see stealing as acceptable.

So yes, we are careful when someone comes up unannounced.
Lots of people prey on the gullible, stupid, trusting and generally naive people.
When I lived in areas that were 'nice' I was nice and would never worry about leaving a garage door open, or even a car unlocked.
Here in the marvelous state of California leaving the door open or the car unlocked just means you get ripped off.
And the cops really, REALLY, couldn't care less.
OK, some could, but most don't. You would just get the lecture on security, and how much more important things they have to do, which is probably true.
Murders locally are up about 700% since the nearest three large cities are moving all their Section 8 people to our area.
If you don't know what that means, you may want to do a little research before you ascribe mental illness to someone who wants to keep their family alive...
 
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Wow, they're people here from both extremes. Some can still leave their doors unlocked at night, and others have to be armed to go to the mailbox. I guess it just depends on your neighborhood, past experiences, etc...

Anyway, looking at the house and cars in the driveway, I get the feeling that older folks live there. I'm going to drop a note in the mailbox this weekend. Hopefully I'll get a response.

Jamie
 

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guys, just be careful about leaving notes in the mail box. I think is actually a crime to put a non-postal object into the mail box. not positive though...... I looked on the USPS website, but couldn't find anything.....

maybe I'm just thinking that any damage to a mail box is a federal offence.....

isn't it wonderful to live in a paranoid countyr/world???
 

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That's true. It's considered tampering with someone's mail.

To be perfectly safe, you should send a postcard or letter to the address. ;)
 
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If someone comes up my drive to my garage and I don't know them, I am a little on edge. My old neighborhood, Fayetteville/Ft Bragg NC had a high crime rate and I had a crack house two doors down from me. Had someone try to break in when my wife was home alone. The two crack dealers got beaten up out in the street in front of my house and one tried top come in my house to get away. Me and Mr. Taurus got him to leave.

If you grow up in a dangerous city, the survival instincts you develop don't go away easily. I moved from that city six years ago and still take the same precautions I did when I lived there. I'm not paranoid or crazy, but I lived in that city from 3 years to 40 years of age and we had to be very cautious and careful.
A business card or mutual friend to introduce would be met with a much friendlier response than just walking up.

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If someone comes up my drive to my garage and I don't know them, I am a little on edge. My old neighborhood, Fayetteville/Ft Bragg NC had a high crime rate and I had a crack house two doors down from me. Had someone try to break in when my wife was home alone. The two crack dealers got beaten up out in the street in front of my house and one tried top come in my house to get away. Me and Mr. Taurus got him to leave.

If you grow up in a dangerous city, the survival instincts you develop don't go away easily. I moved from that city six years ago and still take the same precautions I did when I lived there. I'm not paranoid or crazy, but I lived in that city from 3 years to 40 years of age and we had to be very cautious and careful.
A business card or mutual friend to introduce would be met with a much friendlier response than just walking up.

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They didn't call that main street area "Fayette-Nam" for nothing.:shocking:
 

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We don't all live on your street.

We have people who think like you do here, but not for long before they either get robbed, murdered, mugged, raped or assaulted.

We don't all live where people are nice to each other.
Here, the average person is not a citizen, feels it's OK to steal, feels that violence is a good thing.
Lots of different cultures here. Only the European ones ( a SMALL minority) see anything wrong with violence. Most see stealing as acceptable.

So yes, we are careful when someone comes up unannounced.
Lots of people prey on the gullible, stupid, trusting and generally naive people.
When I lived in areas that were 'nice' I was nice and would never worry about leaving a garage door open, or even a car unlocked.
Here in the marvelous state of California leaving the door open or the car unlocked just means you get ripped off.
And the cops really, REALLY, couldn't care less.
OK, some could, but most don't. You would just get the lecture on security, and how much more important things they have to do, which is probably true.
Murders locally are up about 700% since the nearest three large cities are moving all their Section 8 people to our area.
If you don't know what that means, you may want to do a little research before you ascribe mental illness to someone who wants to keep their family alive...

Geez -= I feel for ya. Guess I've never lived anywhere near a place like that - and even though I've been to most big US cities, I'll admit I'm naive on the extemely bad-sections. Thanks for the good explanation, but what do you mean the big cities are moving Sect 8's to your area?

E-tek, I never said I was armed. About the only time I am at home is if I am expecting someone. (like to buy a car or something). But if someone I don't know strolls up to MY place and wants to chit chat then I'm going to assume there is an alterer motive. I'm at least no more nuts than you are.:beer:

The guy I quoted below you said that. And I'm not sure about the last statement....I can be pretty nuts!:lol_hitti
 

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Geez -= I feel for ya. Guess I've never lived anywhere near a place like that - and even though I've been to most big US cities, I'll admit I'm naive on the extemely bad-sections. Thanks for the good explanation, but what do you mean the big cities are moving Sect 8's to your area?



The guy I quoted below you said that. And I'm not sure about the last statement....I can be pretty nuts!:lol_hitti

Not in a big city.
Has Jack to do with big cities it has to do with cultural things.
Lots of medium to small towns have problems. There are about 1 million or so in our area, but it has nothing to do with population, and it isn't really a 'bad area' per se.
Some cultures are a LOT more violent than others.
You live in a mono-cultural area, because you would never post anything like that if you didn't.

Kids roughing up people who don't look like them is pretty standard, some cultures it never ends when they get older.
Lots of people like violence, dog fighting is a big local sport, as is **** fighting, and kids beating on each other. Three pit bulls killed this morning in dog fights, a cop actually broke that one up. Amazing. heard it on the radio about 11 am.
Section 8 is basically government supplied housing. If you qualify, some are just poor, but the commonest way to qualify for Section 8 is serious criminal record or serious drug problems. That is a guarantee of Section 8 housing.
Disabled can qualify but only after the criminals get it.

So bigger towns do what New York, the state of Florida and many other places have done for at least a century. They move the 'problem' to another community.
When the thug gets out of prison, or the gang banger gets to be too violent for the city, they offer him free housing in another area. Lucky us, we get to be that area because the city that runs this county is on the other side of a mountain range and has 60% of the vote. The illegal vote in the county, by itself, outnumbers our small city.
So when they get criminals or 'undocumented immigrants' who need housing, we get them. They move into ANY neighborhood as they don't pay the rent.
So they get great housing (doesn’t stay great for long, of course) anywhere they want.
Example, the beach cities are just crammed with Section 8.
You have to be rich, or very poor to live in the beach cities in California.
The actual working people are being heavily squeezed out by these practices.

Surprising you haven't encountered any problems, but then, I have friends who travel to Paris every year and have never seen the cars burning. Or perhaps, they just don't look.

Happens lots of places, I was shot at in Victoria BC a couple years ago, nothing personal, kids with homemade guns shooting at everyone.
Just youthful high spirits the cops assured us.

If you stick to tourist areas, you are very safe most anywhere.
California only cops and people with leftist political connections can have concealed carry permits, which the criminals know quite well. Thus they know you aren’t armed, but they are.
Of course the criminals can carry, if they need to. Most criminals are young and strong and don’t really need weapons to hurt or kill most citizens.
 

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Thanks for the good explanation, but what do you mean the big cities are moving Sect 8's to your area?

In a nutshell.......low income / no income.

When you start getting Section 8's in a neighborhood, the value of the other properties start to drop. When they do, they are snatched up for Government subsidised housing. It snowballs.

I'd have to see if I have any old pictures, but a neighbor and good friend across from me had a real decent 2 story older home. He was being relocated so he put it up for sale. HUD (IIRC) asked him if he would be willing to rent it out as Section 8 home. They explained to him that it would be rented to low income, monthly monitered, and what the people could not pay on the monthly rent the Government makes up the difference. Good Deal!!!!! Good money!!!! He was guaranteed something like $600/mo. for doing nothing. (this was back in the early '80's) 6 months later he had a hell of a time getting the renters out. The house was basically destroyed. But do to the fact that the Government system was now involved, it made it all the harder to get rid of the tenants. The value of his house dropped by thousands. He basically gave it away in the end. Now it is the worst looking house on the block.
Another guy built a house in a respectable section of town at the tune of almost $300,000. A high end house for the area it was in and for the geographical location. They started building HUD houses on the same street and he lost almost $100,000 on the value of his home. Here is a Wiki on Section 8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_8_(housing)
 

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Another method would be to knock on their door, and asked who built the garage, get the builder info, and ask if they would recommend that builder. Tell them you are planning on building a garage and like what you see on their property. Do not ask for a tour, or any details, depending on the owner, he may/may not show you around.

Probably the best way to get information.

Charles
 

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They didn't call that main street area "Fayette-Nam" for nothing.:shocking:

Very true!! Downtown(Hay Street) started to get cleaned up when Rick's Lounge burned down and zoning laws were changed to prevent their rebuilding. A lot of people, myself included, think the city had a hand in the arson as the city had been trying for years to get them to move. Now Rick's(Mickey's now) and all the Asian bars are out on Ft Bragg Boulevard. I still wouldn't go downtown at night without a machine gun but it's not quite as bad as 30 years ago.

The crime rate was/is high and it isn't a really big city. Population is ~130,000 with % of black and white about even.
I had a part time delivering magazines for the newspaper and had to do it on foot in two neighborhoods: Hollywood Heights and Chestnut Hills. Chestnut wasn't too bad but I carried a pistol in my delivery bag when walking through Hollywood Heights.

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section 8 housing in your area= there goes the neighborhood:shocking:

And you can add "Group Homes" to Section 8 as well.

Group Homes ="Politician is going to put a house full of lunatics, drug addicts, pedophiles and rapists in your neighborhood while he collects rent on the house they live in". In my old town, one of the biggest owner of group homes was a one term mayor. And I've yet to see a politician put a group home in their own neighborhood.

Coach
 

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I have people calling me all the time about dropping by to see my garage; heck, for some I'm a vacation destination (they stop for a few hours while enroute to somewhere else) or a stop on club drives.....if my garage doors are open, I'm in the garage...just follow the signs pointing to which door I want you to enter....if I've got a construction project going on, I'll explain why we can't just run around freely.

Oh, leave your kids & dogs at home & tell your better half not to sit on hoods!
 

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Thanks for the education boys.
It's all where you live I guess. My brother lived in San Diego and my sister lives in CO - neither have ever said anything about crime in their areas.
I live in a white-bread, mixed moderate to upper-middle income area in a SMALL city on the Canadian Prairies. There's crime in our city, but it's VERY low (comparatively) and mostly occurs between low-income natives and druggies in a very defined area (not that far from me though). My own neighbourhood is comprised of 45-80 year olds that own the big houses and either seniors or single Mom's with kids that live in apartments. It's bordered by the river, a golf course, the sports area (football, baseball, rinks) and the Hell-Angels Club house!! Some say it the seclusion (no thoroughfares) and some say it's the HA clubhouse that keeps the crime away!! Regardless, if you (or anyone) comes up to my house and wants to see my shop, they get the full tour - unless they are native! Earlier today I was working in the shop when I was surprised by 2 neighbourhood kids who asked if I had any work they could do for a few bucks. Had them fill in 2 holes dug by the dog!!

Your examples and explanations are just more reminders that my beloved America is going to the dogs! I had so much fun living and training in Santa Monica in the early 90's and wanted to move there in the worst way.
 
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