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polexican23

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I finally have the funds saved up to get cracking on a garage build.

My requirements are that it is 24x24 with 9 foot wall. (I want go 10 with hopes of getting a lift in, but the jump in costs I have been given are nuts)
Standard trusses
-electrical, gas, etc runs will all be installed, but no wires pulled yet. That would be down the road as more fund come available.

I am having the hardest time getting a builder to come out and quote the job.
I get a few call backs that give me a ball park figure. lowest was 13k, highest was 19K and all these were without the driveway concrete.

are 9ft walls even going to be worth it?
Do these numbers seem fair?
How do I find a builder and get some more accurate quotes.

I am in Rolling Meadows, IL 60008---it is about 45 minutes west of Chicago.
 

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I can ask a builder friend, but lately he has been buried with work. I assume you are looking at early spring?
A relative lives in RM and has a nice 24x36. He's retired and I wouldn't be surprised if he sells in a few years. I wish I had his garage!
 

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Looks like you're talking about $22.57 to $32.98/sf. That seems low. I am finishing a 1,000sf race shop and I'm closing in on $100/sf. Steep roof, scissors trusses in half, storage in other half, in-floor heat, toilet room, three garage doors, two man doors, five windows, lots of concrete for parking the motorhome, suburban, and trailer.

I went with 9' walls and scissor trusses over where the race car will sit. 9' wall was over kill. If I did it again, I would go with 8' walls. I neglected to put a pencil to it, but all the costs cascaded because of the higher walls.

24' is just deep enough. My building is 42' x 23'-9"; zoning is holding me to 1,000sf, I wanted room for four cars (or one stall to work on race car, two more stalls for cars--but then wife wanted a "toilet room" ... so now I have one stall for race car, one stall for another car, and a short stall for a short car or machine tools).

You probably won't be able to get a crew cab pickup with long bed on the garage. My race cars are 17' (m/l) long. 24' deep less 6" walls (12" total) would give me 2.5' on either end of the cars. Trust me, that is barely enough, absolute minimum.

24' wide with room to work around a car (jack it up) have a work bench, shelving for stuff, and then room for anything you remove from the car ... 24' is minimum. Can you make it any wider? a touch deeper? or are you limited to 24' x 24'.

You mention gas to the garage. Are you putting in in-floor heat? I don't think that is in the prices you've been quoted.

I put the trusses in because someday I might put in a lift. Everyone, I mean everyone, is telling me to put in a lift. Many of my racer buddies have a lift. I don't. Been working on the heavy NASCAR stock car for 10 years. Jack it up, roll around underneath it. Works for me.

Rather than 9' walls, put the scissors trusses in. What kind of vehicles do you plan to work on? With the scissor trusses, I think you'll be surprised that you can have a lift and still get a tall vehicle up in the air.

I was lucky. My neighbor is a small residential/very light commercial contractor with long time working relationships with good subs: plumbing, electrical, excavating, and concrete. He, his FT employee, and their PT third guy did all the carpentry, roofing, and insulating. I did the rough and finish electrical to the panel (electrician banned me from the inside of the panel). Rest of the subs did a great job.

You need a small guy. Either you general it yourself (get the bids from the subs, organize everyone, schedule everyone, etc. which is a reasonable amount of work) OR you pay someone who will do this for you. You don't need a guy who does $5 million worth of business a year. I think anyone who normally does small construction/remodeling can do this.

A local lumber yard might be able to give you some leads, or a local electrician or plumber might be able to give you some leads.

If you're working with someone you don't know ... a very detailed set of plans is essential so you get want you think you're getting and the "contractor" clearly knows what you expect.

Good luck! Keep us posted.
 

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I can ask a builder friend, but lately he has been buried with work. I assume you are looking at early spring?
A relative lives in RM and has a nice 24x36. He's retired and I wouldn't be surprised if he sells in a few years. I wish I had his garage!

that would be great. I am at my max with my dimensions of my yard. I was told by the city what is allowed and what isn't. I will have to demolish half of my front (current driveway) just to get the 24x24.

I have heard of a few people with great garages in our area, just yet to meet any of them.
 
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Looks like you're talking about $22.57 to $32.98/sf. That seems low. I am finishing a 1,000sf race shop and I'm closing in on $100/sf. Steep roof, scissors trusses in half, storage in other half, in-floor heat, toilet room, three garage doors, two man doors, five windows, lots of concrete for parking the motorhome, suburban, and trailer.

I went with 9' walls and scissor trusses over where the race car will sit. 9' wall was over kill. If I did it again, I would go with 8' walls. I neglected to put a pencil to it, but all the costs cascaded because of the higher walls.

24' is just deep enough. My building is 42' x 23'-9"; zoning is holding me to 1,000sf, I wanted room for four cars (or one stall to work on race car, two more stalls for cars--but then wife wanted a "toilet room" ... so now I have one stall for race car, one stall for another car, and a short stall for a short car or machine tools).

You probably won't be able to get a crew cab pickup with long bed on the garage. My race cars are 17' (m/l) long. 24' deep less 6" walls (12" total) would give me 2.5' on either end of the cars. Trust me, that is barely enough, absolute minimum.

24' wide with room to work around a car (jack it up) have a work bench, shelving for stuff, and then room for anything you remove from the car ... 24' is minimum. Can you make it any wider? a touch deeper? or are you limited to 24' x 24'.

You mention gas to the garage. Are you putting in in-floor heat? I don't think that is in the prices you've been quoted.

Rather than 9' walls, put the scissors trusses in. What kind of vehicles do you plan to work on? With the scissor trusses, I think you'll be surprised that you can have a lift and still get a tall vehicle up in the air.

You need a small guy. Either you general it yourself (get the bids from the subs, organize everyone, schedule everyone, etc. which is a reasonable amount of work) OR you pay someone who will do this for you. You don't need a guy who does $5 million worth of business a year. I think anyone who normally does small construction/remodeling can do this.

A local lumber yard might be able to give you some leads, or a local electrician or plumber might be able to give you some leads.

If you're working with someone you don't know ... a very detailed set of plans is essential so you get want you think you're getting and the "contractor" clearly knows what you expect.

Good luck! Keep us posted.


-No in floor heat. I want to run gas for either a heater or an oven to do light powder coating.

-No fullsize trucks here. I work on motorcycles and dunebuggys for personal use. The wife and I both drive small Hondas.

-If 8ft and scissor trusses is good enough to get a Max Jack in there I would be happy.
 

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He said he should be able to quote it, but says he probably can't compete against companies that specialize in building garages like Danley's. He'll have a million questions so PM me your email address and phone # and I'll pass it along.
 

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I think the 10' price jump is having to use half-height horizontal blocking with 2x4 framing. Correct me if wrong, but going up to 2x6 studs eliminates the center blocking requirement. Also, I have seen a simpson strong tie product rolled into a "T" shape which does the same thing, nailed horizontally across the joists. Its truly supposed to be a diagonal brace but I had a house built by a large corp builder in Atlanta where the basement framing had above feature.

In your situation, I'd hire the concrete work, and find some buddies who are more knowledgeable to help out with framing, siding, roofing. You can doo it!! :)
 
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definitely trying to stay away from Danley's. Nothing but bad reviews from people I know that had theirs built by them.

when I have free time I will start looking for requirements for different lifts. I know I wont be able to afford a lift right away, but want to make sure I can have one if I want one.
 

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My Morton building was $32.85/sq ft including the foundation slab. The building was 30' x 54'x 14' tall. They did a really nice job. The quote included 3-10' rollup doors and 1 walk in door. After the slab was complete, it took the Morton crew a week to build.

Best to you...:beer:
 

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In your situation, I'd hire the concrete work, and find some buddies who are more knowledgeable to help out with framing, siding, roofing. You can doo it!! :)

This is a good suggestion. Don't forget to get any utilities out to the site and "through the floor" before they pour the concrete.

The right bunch of guys with some basic tools should be able to get it framed up over a weekend in decent weather.

How tall are you? if you 6'-8" and want to stand up under the car, then it goes up higher. But if your 5'-8" then it won't go up so high. The scissors trusses will really open the garage up.
 
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I am 6-2", but taller laying down (ok the wife just said I was a liar)
And the wife chimed in that I need light overhead storage, at least for a few boxes.

I thought about the weekend thing. Still on the table for me. But would I still call a garage builder for that. OR find a concrete company to spec the job?
 

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If you wanted to go with a steel building like a Morton you would have to see if Rolling Meadows would permit it. They aren't customary in residential areas around here, but you never know until you ask.
 
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Most likely not and no Morton rep in Illinois. They are up near Milwaukee.

Just got word from a friend that a guy is building a 1000sq shop in my town and going to go try and stop and talk with them.

see what kind of issues that came up when dealing with the city and all.
 

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I love my 12 foot garage ceilings and I do not have a lift. The extra height for working, moving stuff, storage, etc. is great.

I would look at on-site shed builders. Many of them do garages, etc.

http://www.tuffshed.com/garages/
 
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Give Onan in Gurnee/Waukegan a call. I had them build a garage for me in Lake Villa but it was over 25 years ago. If for no other reason than to have a price comparison. They were best price at the time and did a fine job.
 
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I swung by to sneak a peak of the build going on in my neighborhood, holy mother. It is bigger than his house. now his house is only a 2 bedroom and I would be shocked if it was over 800 sqft in total.
He has the best wife ever if he is married.
 
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So I finally got a my first quote in from a builder. does 17550 sound out of whack for a 22x26 with 9 ft walls?

I attached the quote. and they gave me a few add on options.
 

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well I guess it didn't include the driveway leading up to the garage. looks like inneed to tack on another $8K or so.
 
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there are different types of garages available these days and therefore your decision is dependent on multiple factors. concrete garages and prefab garages are most popular these days.
 

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Drive around and look for a garage going up and stop and talk to the owner. Ask at a lumber yard for a contractor. Actually my lumber yard had a crew and I used them. Lumber yard even hooked me up with a concrete crew. Very happy with it.
 
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